All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Possibly Delusional

reply to post by Tippys Dad

I have never seen anything (yet) that could be construed as a UFO.

that is understandable, it's a big planet and you can't expect all the excitement to happen over your head all the time, some are luckier than others but what i meant was that you will have a bigger chance of seeing evidence for yourself if you go after it, instead of looking online for proof. that's never going to satisfy anyone's needs.

and also, it's like the placebo effect, you have to believe in what you're looking for. most people think that if they see it, they will believe, but i think it's the other way around, you can't find something you think doesn't exist.


[edit on 4-2-2010 by jaden_x]

Well OP, I guess the universe is also fake, a hologram (some people do claim so). I have never seen nor been to mars, jupiter or any of the other galaxies that interact in this "universe" and all I have are pictures from "telescopes" telling me and showing me what's out there. I've never seen nutrenos (typo), photons, electrons; as a matter of fact, I don't even understand what quantum physics is but all I hear are explanations and animated videos together with some "pictures" taken by some "phony" scientists that have nothing better to do than to make up a whole universe with complex theories to make us feel like we are part of something when in reality we are not!

But I do believe that in ancient times we were there teaching those primates how to build ( or building for them ) spectacular monuments, making complex calendars and telling them about the universe while dressed up like something other than human so they [the ancients] wouldn't realize that we were as much human as they were. And we did all that so in about 4000 years from then, along with the phony testimonies, pictures, videos and witnesses of recent times, we can fool everyone into believing in aliens as gods so we can take over our own planet. We did all that because we weren't sure if the God/Jesus theory was going to work forever, based of the experiences on other gods/Jesus ( Rah, Horus, Osiris, Krishna, Buddha and others...) that didn't endure the test of time so we had to have a plan B.

From time to time we have "super agents" to start rumors, and start writing books and giving public speeches about Reptilians/illuminati, aliens, NWO taking over the world, to keep us in fear so we can worship ourselves, the very same humans that started all this in the first place.

I, mean, if aliens were so powerful and we humans are still so primitive, why don't alien just take over, make their presence known, take over already and get it over with. It is certainly not because other, very powerful aliens already took control of the planet, and this is their territory. But it is because the same aliens, gods that we worship are those very smart and powerful humans from ancient, very ancient time that are carrying out their plan on the humans and they don't want no interferences from real aliens.

OP, you are so smart and wise that you, like myself, read and researched soooo much that you went around the loop of knowledge and started at point A again after reaching point X.

I'm so glad that I'm not the only one!!!

Originally posted by woodwytch
reply to post by Signals

 

Signals,

I'm surprised ... and more than a little disappointed !

Why are you being so selective about the posts you answer and the glaringly obvious ones that you don't

Come on ... you can't make a sweeping statement like the one in the title of this thread ... and then become coy about who you respond to.

You chose to throw the gauntlet down ... now you must pick up your sword and fight your corner like a man ... or fall on it, as you admit defeat ... the choice of course is yours ... but by being so selective you are beginning to look very small (in the 'valid point' stakes, you understand).

Woody

You can learn little from victory. You can learn everything from defeat. -Christy Mathewson.



When defeat comes, accept it as a Signal that your plans are not sound, rebuild those plans, and set sail once more toward your coveted goal. -Unknown

reply to post by Signals


Of course, I live by the motto of - If you fail, admit your failure outright and apologize for any inconsideration you may have shown.
But that is just me.

Just the other day, perhaps yesterday, I saw great integrity by a member on this website.
But then there is always a counter-balance, isn't there. Can't expect them all to have integrity.

Originally posted by Signals

Originally posted by woodwytch
reply to post by Signals

 

Signals,

I'm surprised ... and more than a little disappointed !

Why are you being so selective about the posts you answer and the glaringly obvious ones that you don't

Come on ... you can't make a sweeping statement like the one in the title of this thread ... and then become coy about who you respond to.

You chose to throw the gauntlet down ... now you must pick up your sword and fight your corner like a man ... or fall on it, as you admit defeat ... the choice of course is yours ... but by being so selective you are beginning to look very small (in the 'valid point' stakes, you understand).

Woody

You can learn little from victory. You can learn everything from defeat. -Christy Mathewson.



When defeat comes, accept it as a Signal that your plans are not sound, rebuild those plans, and set sail once more toward your coveted goal. -Unknown

Well you passed on, Christy Mathewson and 'Unknown' words ... but what have you learned ... in your own words ?

Woody

Originally posted by JayinAR
Souls,

The only thing worse than seeing someone who apparently doesn't understand erroneous logic is seeing even more people who do the same.

[edit on 4-2-2010 by JayinAR]

What are you talking about? Are you including me into this category? I think you should explain exactly what you mean. I don't know why you would edit your comment after so long? I don't think you are "pointing it out to me." I have seen strange "lights" in the sky, but I have never seen any evidence, indisputable evidence of extraterrestrials. I know they exist because it just makes sense, but still, I have not seen one yet, and specially on the intra-webs. Everything there is out there, as I have seen, is "witness" testimony.

Originally posted by woodwytch

Well you passed on, Christy Mathewson and 'Unknown' words ... but what have you learned ... in your own words ?

Woody

* Titles are more important than threads to an alarming number of our members.
* Foes are easy to come by, truth is what you make of it.
* Little green men have quite the grip on the human psyche.
* It's all fun & games until somebody gets their feelings hurt.
* Question your own beliefs, it will make your convictions fewer but stronger.

Thanks for asking Woody.

Signals I have to ask , did you get the attention you wanted from this thread? Are you glad it made it past 10 pages? It seems this was all it was good for.

The evidence is overwhelming whether you want to accept it or not.

If eye witness reports aren't reliable then neither is your view on the subject, you are no better than them. People know that if they report UFO activity they will be labeled as a crazy, yet they still do, and out of all the reports I'd say 90 percent of them are normal people that would be offended if they were labeled as a crazy.

And tbh...I don't think many people relate UFO to being saved by religion , in fact I think its the opposite. Most people are either completely clueless on what could be out there or assume its going to be a little green man with big eyes or a big lizard man.

YOU were the one that acknowledged that UFO could be here to "save" us. I'm sure that a lot of the technology IS ours but I find it hard to believe we could go from the combustible engine to interstellar and anti gravity travel, at least without another source of knowledge being received.

Why we are at it lets just forget about the many pictures and descriptions from ancient peoples of flying objects coming down with people inside them. I guess people just liked to devote their lives to studying the sky when nothing came from it. You know what, lets just forget about all the people who claim to be abducted to, and how the stories are oh so similar, even when they go into a deep hypnotic trance.

I guess there is no reason either as to why the MSM *always* likes to poke fun at any UFO story. If they were ALL ours, why hide them? We wouldn't have access to them anyway. If they are all ours too, why no reports of them being used in war or transportation? IF they are hiding something then what for?

I *know* that we have brothers and sisters outside of this planet, how? because its what my intuition tells me, and has told me before I even heard of UFO or ATS. So you know what, all the UFO could be ours , because we are all related, even if we aren't on the same planet.

I'd like to address the skeptics that say "well if they are there and want to help why don't they just land on the White House lawn?" Well maybe because they consider everyone equal, and anyone that sees one of there craft is just as important as somebody in the White House. By "showing up" our government people would soon turn to them as the authority and would blindly follow. I think any person intelligent enough to travel to another planet would rather people first find the answer in themselves then having it being sold (someone has to pay for Fox news broadcasting) to the huge masses that were to blind to see in the first place.

Take your trolling CRAP (honestly) to the world of warcraft forums.

reply to post by Signals


Prove they are ours then smarty pants....If 'they' are ours and you know it, then prove it....

Oops, that's right, you can't. LOL

reply to post by Signals


Quote:
"* Little green men have quite the grip on the human psyche. "

You see, this is where I look upon you as a fool.

YOU were the firt to bring up "little green men".
You were also THE ONLY ONE to bring up aliens as religious figures.

It is posts just like the one I am typing right now the other person was referring to when the brought up the point that you are ignoring "certain" posts.

Those being the ones that call YOU OUT on YOUR ridiculous logic, signals.

Grow a pair or f-ing get lost.
Your insults are growing extremely tiresome.

reply to post by Maristo316


That is the point, isn't it?
This person is denying an unknown and replacing it with yet another unknown.

This is the height of ignorance.

Originally posted by JayinAR
Quote:
"* Little green men have quite the grip on the human psyche. "

You see, this is where I look upon you as a fool.

YOU were the firt to bring up "little green men".
You were also THE ONLY ONE to bring up aliens as religious figures.

It is posts just like the one I am typing right now the other person was referring to when the brought up the point that you are ignoring "certain" posts.

Those being the ones that call YOU OUT on YOUR ridiculous logic, signals.

Grow a pair or f-ing get lost.
Your insults are growing extremely tiresome.

This thread really got under your skin didn't it?

If you can't see the religious devotion to an idea and a movement that requires no solid proof, then you are delusional, just as the title suggests...

Your rants grow tiresome as well, but I expected it, just not from you.

When will the whining and crying over this thread stop Jay?

And to suggest I am the one baiting or trolling...

reply to post by Signals


I'm not ranting.
I am trying to hold you to a standard you erroneously set for others, fraud.

If you can't see that, you are BEYOND delusional.
In fact, I would say you are borderline mental.
Idiot.

If mods don't want to step in and do something about the offensive remarks, I'll respond in like manner from here out.

Of course, when they start censoring my posts they will be shown as hypocrites.

reply to post by Signals


I,for one have to agree,there are no facts proving that any alien spacecrafts have landed or visited.But the largest and most damning fact that exsists is the fact that our exploration of space has only just begun and already we have pictures of a universe so vast that the numbers of galaxies are overwhelming.To deny that our solar system is the only one is ignorant and egotistical.To boldly say that the human race is the only race that exsist is just plain stupid.

Originally posted by Signals

Originally posted by woodwytch

Well you passed on, Christy Mathewson and 'Unknown' words ... but what have you learned ... in your own words ?

Woody

* Titles are more important than threads to an alarming number of our members.
* Foes are easy to come by, truth is what you make of it.
* Little green men have quite the grip on the human psyche.
* It's all fun & games until somebody gets their feelings hurt.
* Question your own beliefs, it will make your convictions fewer but stronger.

Thanks for asking Woody.

Exactly (to all of the above).

And no probs.

In fact dammit all, I'm going to 'friend' you ... yes you read me right I said 'friend' ... just the kind of girl I am.

Now for god sake man ... if you believe what you said in the title of the thread and the OP stick by it ... whether others agree or not ... you are allowed to have your own opinion (although you do come across a little bit shakey on some of your 'convictions' but hey ho) ... and maybe for future reference omit the words 'delusional' and 'phoney' out of thread titles ... people really don't like being called names when you don't know them.


Woody

reply to post by woodwytch


You are correct, the title appears to be what set everyone off. You live and you learn.

Some may call it a shaky stance....in the OP I did ask for proof. I would be an idot ( as others have suggested already ) if I wasn't open to the consideration.

Thank you friend, for slapping me around a little. I needed that.

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Signals

 

I'm not ranting.
I am trying to hold you to a standard you erroneously set for others, fraud.

If you can't see that, you are BEYOND delusional.
In fact, I would say you are borderline mental.
Idiot.

Hey there JayinAR.

Now, I'm not saying the OP is correct (I 'know' from personal experience that he is not) ... I'm cetainly not saying he put his personal views forward in the correct way (again, I 'know' he did not) ...

But ... can I just ask if you stamped your foot ... just a little bit ... when you said (quote) ' I'm not ranting' (end quote) because I think I may have heard the sound of a foot hitting the floor there.

But as for the rest of the post (see above) ... well, I'm pretty sure that goes against T&C's ... which basically means any further comments you make concerning anything the OP may or may not have done wrong ... will mean zilch (you just lost any credibility you may have had in the beginning).

Woody

Originally posted by 4faded
reply to post by Signals

 

I,for one have to agree,there are no facts proving that any alien spacecrafts have landed or visited.But the largest and most damning fact that exsists is the fact that our exploration of space has only just begun and already we have pictures of a universe so vast that the numbers of galaxies are overwhelming.To deny that our solar system is the only one is ignorant and egotistical.To boldly say that the human race is the only race that exsist is just plain stupid.

I never denied alien existence. Only evidence of their visiting Earth.

I agree, that would be stupid.

Originally posted by Maristo316
reply to post by Signals

 

Prove they are ours then smarty pants....If 'they' are ours and you know it, then prove it....

Oops, that's right, you can't. LOL

They have to be ours. Because no one can prove they're alien.

Does that make any sense?