All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Possibly Delusional

reply to post by Signals


ok you got me to bite and i got one answer for you read book of the law by aleister crowley written in 1904 just an example of whats in the book a description of a nebula that you cant see without the hubble telescope! and the colors are the same in the pictures! so this idea has been debunked! either open your eyes or stay with the herd! but remember this the herd will be destroyed in mass!

Originally posted by Signals
Yep, it's all true.

Not one single shred of "evidence" supports Planet Earth ever having been visited by anything. Not a picture, not a book, not a video. Eyewitness accounts are very unreliable, just ask our justice system.

This phenomenon has been the biggest LIE and HOAX ever perpetrated on mankind.

And done for good reason - to keep us asleep. To keep us focused on the super-cool space gods that will come and save us!

Meanwhile TPTB steal trillions of dollars from us, kill millions of innocent people, suppress invaluable technology from us (used in some of the hoaxes by the way), and plan the next genocide/war.

Sure I want to believe. But I can't, it's just too easy. Not until they land here-

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And Bigfoot steps out holding Elvis' hand, singing Dixie.

~You have proof you say?~

I'd rather read this-

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I finally figured out what started my whole ride, ET & Close Encounters. Those 2 movies filled my young mind with visions of grandeur...I'm off the ride folks.

Ever wonder over & over again the cliche' "Why are UFO pictures and videos so out of focus and fuzzy"?

Because it's all a SHAM to distract us.

Prove me wrong.



[edit on 3-2-2010 by Signals]

Isn't you stating as fact that "This phenomenon has been the biggest lie and hoax...." without evidence' the same as perpetuating a hoax on your own? Your upset that many believe the UFO thing without evidence yet you represent that it isn't real without evidence to support your claim. Interesting.

The phenomenon can't be proven to the populace short of them landing on the white house lawn. And while many of the abductees are mentally ill I'd be willing to bet some are legitimate. As far as the UFO's being our aircraft, it's possible. But the one I saw our technology would have to be at least 1000 years more advanced than I'm aware of.

reply to post by DrJay1975


i'm not mentally ill infact i'd go as far as to say i'm one of the most level headed open minded thinkers on here dont believe me go through my posts on my profile...anyway not all abductees are mentally ill infact the ones that go on tv yeah some are camera hounds and such but i'd say theres a few on there that have there head straight and lets not forget all the other people that are afraid to go on tv and admit it either because they themself are skeptical or are afraid to lose friends and family or

because of being hounded or labeled by the herd!

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reply to post by Cole DeSteele


Hello Cole!

The X's post is quite intriguing. When the crop circle seemed to answer our original message sent to space....it's well, mind blowing. I have researched that case, and while tempted to believe, there is too much evidence pointing to the fact that circles are man-made. Good case though.

Thanks for the comments, I never intended for this thread to go on this long, I've tried to walk away from it more than once ...I'm honestly not a confrontational guy....Just wanted to try and throw some sort of voice of reason out there. Too many people here accept alien visitation as FACT.

I will be the first to eat my words and bring this thread up from the dead if I have to if I have an experience that convinces me otherwise.

Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by Signals

 

ok you got me to bite and i got one answer for you read book of the law by aleister crowley written in 1904 just an example of whats in the book a description of a nebula that you cant see without the hubble telescope! and the colors are the same in the pictures! so this idea has been debunked! either open your eyes or stay with the herd! but remember this the herd will be destroyed in mass!

Aleister Crowley? Perhaps Jimmy Page co-wrote some songs to corroborate this theory? Surely you jest.

See, that's the thing, I don't want to be with the herd...blind faith doesn't set well with me.

reply to post by Signals


I take it your not going to read it because of who its written by surely your thoughts on crowley have been predetermined by the reputation the herd has given him! surely you jest!

As this thread has numerous times gone the way of "I've seen a UFO therefore your assumption is false" I'd like to post a pictures of a few aircraft. Some of these are real, some are artist's conceptions (you be the judge). My point being that man IS capable of unbelievable aircraft. If we have pictures and proof of these, the mind boggles at what we do not know about!

I know the first time I saw a B2 fly over my head, the first words out of my mouth were "That is a UFO."

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A few more...with a boat thrown in.

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reply to post by Signals


heres a question how do you know man hasnt had any help? crowley had help writing his book in 1904 and it mentions wireless being popular now explain that..also there is mention of a nebula which i have already described surely something superior to man must prove he is superior and through knowledge he does so by predicting future events and or things! i'm not going to sit here and type that whole book out either you read it and realise or look like a fool!

reply to post by metalholic


You know what? I thought you were kidding. MSM has taught us (and me I must admit) that Crowley was a vile, evil man. I would be willing to take a look at that though. Do you have any links? Or would I need to go buy it?

Heck, I would read it just to find out what attracted Page to it so much...even going as far as buying the man's castle. And of course there's the Ozzy angle, but that doesn't interest me so much.

Are you saying Crowley knows something about alien visitation? If so, it would be worth a look.

Originally posted by IamNow
How do you explain pictures of Aliens in caves thousands of years old, How do you explain pictures and artifacts of Space Crafts thousands of years old.

That's very easy.

There are none.

You're asking for an explanation for things that don't exist.

Harte

reply to post by Signals
I tend to agree. Check out Nick Redfern's book - On the trail of the Saucer Spies (anomalist books). UFO groups are often infiltrated by extremists to recruit members for other sinister purposes. Governments then "plant" stories and then monitor members through their security services (NSA, MI5 and MI6 etc) to gain intelligence. Also Governments know that in the main the public is gullable (Orson Welles' War of the Worlds broadcast). What out for "false flag" activity in the near future as a method of total population control and social reordering.

reply to post by Signals


supposedly he was visited by something superior to man on 3 days the 8th,9th,10th day of april in 1904 it mentions wireless,football pools,and the house(nebula) 418 if you get on google you will find 418 is a nebula only photographed by the hubble and the colors that is in the picuture are described in that book!

there are alot of other things i there interesting to but i'm not gonna ruin it for you..the book is only 10 bucks and its a little red book with gold lettering! yes pick it up and read you'll be glad you did!

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by Cole DeSteele

 

Hello Cole!

The X's post is quite intriguing. When the crop circle seemed to answer our original message sent to space....it's well, mind blowing. I have researched that case, and while tempted to believe, there is too much evidence pointing to the fact that circles are man-made. Good case though.

Thanks for the comments, I never intended for this thread to go on this long, I've tried to walk away from it more than once

...I'm honestly not a confrontational guy....Just wanted to try and throw some sort of voice of reason out there. Too many people here accept alien visitation as FACT.

I will be the first to eat my words and bring this thread up from the dead if I have to if I have an experience that convinces me otherwise.

And I'll be right there with you, even bring my own spoon!

Yeah, I was surprised how long this dragged out without anyone but The X even coming close to actual evidence. There was this french guy who supposedly had proof - I'm sure you're familiar with the case - but I think he's since been debunked. I am curious still about the truth surrounding "The Bob White Object" as well...and of course Roswell...if Mogul was the culprit, the "UFO" cover was almost a good idea to divert attn from the "high tech" spy apparatus (smirk). But cooler heads prevailed and blamed a balloon. Proves part of your premise anyway re: "ours" and "gov't smoke and mirrors" argument.

Good luck with this one from here...hard to focus on anything not black and gold right now!

WHO DAT!!

reply to post by metalholic


Thanks,

I will u2u you after reading.

reply to post by Signals


Hi Signals! I could agree with the fact that many UFO if not 99% of all UFO that are seen are indeed, top secert black op aircraft created either by USA, or another country..

Its easier to pass these sights off as aliens, as it protects the truth...

Yet I am not sure if I am reading you correctly...
Are you saying that you don't think there is life anywhere else in the universe?

Or are you just saying they have never been here to Earth?

I disagree with your thoughts that there has never been another type of life to come to this planet..
I have no proof that they have been here..
Yet again.. You don't have any proof that they have not..

It works both ways..

I've SEEN a UFO. A huge dark grey cylinder, wich blinked in and out a few times as it slowly floated out of my sight. I don't need "disclosure" to let me know, for sure, that there are craft around that are capable of the impossible (or at least as we know it).

Unless we have secret technology that is hundreds if not thousands of years ahead of what is public, that the military enjoys testing over largley populated citys, than this was an alien craft.


I do have to say though, its pretty frustrating seeing something like this with no camera. Now I ALWAYS have a camera with me, and have seen nothing since.


Anyways, I can tell the OP that there ARE, for SURE, craft flying around our airspace that have capabilitys that we simply aren't even close to achieving. The only logical answer to why is there are other intelligent beings visiting us from somewhere.





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Originally posted by zysin5
reply to post by Signals

 

Hi Signals! I could agree with the fact that many UFO if not 99% of all UFO that are seen are indeed, top secert black op aircraft created either by USA, or another country..

Its easier to pass these sights off as aliens, as it protects the truth...

Yet I am not sure if I am reading you correctly...
Are you saying that you don't think there is life anywhere else in the universe?

Or are you just saying they have never been here to Earth?

I disagree with your thoughts that there has never been another type of life to come to this planet..
I have no proof that they have been here..
Yet again.. You don't have any proof that they have not..

It works both ways..

Just saying I don't think they've been to Earth yet....

Evidence lacks in my opinion.

Several have brought up "we are aliens" due to life seeding from a comet or whatnot, that makes some sense to me....

I'm just referring to what we see in the skies as being alien in nature.

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by metalholic

 

You know what? I thought you were kidding. MSM has taught us (and me I must admit) that Crowley was a vile, evil man. I would be willing to take a look at that though. Do you have any links? Or would I need to go buy it?

Heck, I would read it just to find out what attracted Page to it so much...even going as far as buying the man's castle. And of course there's the Ozzy angle, but that doesn't interest me so much.

Are you saying Crowley knows something about alien visitation? If so, it would be worth a look.

Crowley claims that alien visitation phenomena is actually demonic, or, spiritual.

He claims he made contact with one of these beings, a "Lam". Crowley drew a picture of Lam, and he looks suprisingly similar to a "grey". Google Crowley Lam for some interesting stuff of that.


As far as the MSM portreying him as vile, he did practice sexual rituals, sometimes involving children, and "Do what thou wilt" is the whole of his teachings.

In one of his books, he teaches us how to contact a "Lam". The first step is to meditate into the eyes of the "Lam" portrait he was allowed to scetch.

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Originally posted by kleverone
I have seen two ufos in my lifetime. I am neither delusional or phony. I think you are nothing more than a troll looking for trouble. We are all entitled to opinions.

I can attest to the concept that you are neither delusional or a phony. I too, have seen very bizarre things in the sky that couldn't be easily explained. By strict definition they were UFOs.

But by no definition were they alien or extraterrestrial.