Truther Movement Can't Be Stopped

"I think the biggest argument against conspiracy theories is that they assume the government is competent, when evidence is stacked to the contrary."

Yeah, that's why you are a slave to your Government...Mr. TaxPayer!

[edit on 11-2-2010 by SphinxMontreal]

another point, bushes bro just happened to be in charge of security of the wtc....hmmmm...that explains how the demo charges were snuck in...
to me the three main people that need to be held accountable are:
SILVERSTIEN
ROCKERFELLA
G.W.BUSH!

THEY ARE ALL IN EACH OTHERS POCKETS!
GET RID OF THEM BY ANY MEANS!

reply to post by argentus


"no airliner wreckage"

No it means that not one single serial number from an aircraft engine or landing gear or part or black box was produced and verified proving what aircraft were used in 9-11. There is not one shred of evidence that Flights 175, 11, 77, and 93 were the actual aircraft used in the attack on America on 9-11-2001.

If alternate aircraft were used, then 9-11 was most definitely an INSIDE JOB. If those four aircraft were actually used and evidence was planted, then 9-11 was most likely an INSIDE JOB. If the Bush Regime had foreknowledge and allowed 9-11 to happen, then treason was committed and 9-11 was an INSIDE JOB.

In fact there is substantial evidence that the four official aircraft were not crashed into their targets on 9-11. A lot of the alleged evidence "recovered" from the four crash scenes seems very suspicious and unbelievable. It seems evidence was planted without signs of enduring violent fiery explosions. It appears alternate aircraft were used and the crashes faked and evidence planted at the Pentagon and Shanksville sites.


Pristine condition after a fiery crash into a tower
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Pristine condition and like new after a fiery crash into a hole in the ground
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Obviously gently placed by hand - supposedly enduring a violent impact with a 530 mph 100 ton aircraft - yet the pieces rest within mere feet of their original base - the alleged impact violent enough to rip the 337 pound light pole apart, but not violent enough to hurl the pieces hundreds of feet away?

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Obviously planted in the hole by the backhoe bucket
1. No scrape marks on the alleged engine by the teeth
2. How did the large bucket dig out the small hole on the left side of the alleged jet engine?
3. No footprints from men with shovels
4. No other aircraft parts anywhere in sight, even though this hole allegedly swallowed up 100 tons of aircraft
Original trial photo

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[edit on 2/11/10 by SPreston]

Originally posted by Lillydale
reply to post by infinityoreilly

 

From eventually finding the truth and if you are not interested in that because you are too busy with real life issues then why do you have enough time to sit down at a computer, come to a conspiracy site, and write to all of us about how you are too busy with real life to care? Just go take care of all that important stuff and leave us be then. Your post is as good as people who post in a thread to make fun of people posting...in that thread.

If you find the truth about 911 then what?

Try do drag those responsible to trial and send them to jail?

What evidence would it take to convict them?

Where would you get it?

You assume a lot about me and spent most of the post I quoted telling me where to stick it.

I care or I wouldn't be here seeking enlightenment. As far as making fun of people posting your post fits that bill to the T.

This type of emotional response to my post in a thread that simply wants to pat itself on the back is what will doom the truth movement to it's current state of fractured infighting. You don't know me, don't pretend to.

Not to forget to mention, no dirt on it at all. That musta been a helluva track hoe operator to be able to get ALL the dirt off of it too.

The trouble is SCIENCE is supposed to be a TRUTH MOVEMENT.

Aren't astronomers supposed to understand things like momentum and gravity?

Shouldn't they be able to figure out what would happen if a nickel-iron asteroid hit a comet 2000 times its mass? Couldn't they explain the difference if it hit another asteroid instead?

So questions about the physics of the event can never go away as long as it is not resolved in an intelligent manner. So the physics departments of all of our engineering schools have a serious problem which they can only deal with by pretending it is not there.

psik

reply to post by SPreston

Obviously planted in the hole by the backhoe bucket

Obvious to WHO? You? Why should I care what you think is obvious? And based on what appears obvious or not obvious to you we are expected to do what exactly?

1. No scrape marks on the alleged engine by the teeth

I say there is, prove me wrong.

2. How did the large bucket dig out the small hole on the left side of the alleged jet engine?

Prove the small hole on the left side of the engine was dug by the bucket.

3. No footprints from men with shovels

Prove that there should be - do you have some photos that show them walking in the frame of this photo?

4. No other aircraft parts anywhere in sight, even though this hole allegedly swallowed up 100 tons of aircraft

Except for that silvery metal thing in the middle of the photo - prove me wrong. Please show me the official government document that stipulates that all of the physical existence of the plane involved in Flight 93 is contained in the area shown in this photo or just admit you're making it up as you go along.

Hooper,

I am still wating for you to post actual evidence of the claim that you made that 95% of flight 93 was recovered and is in storage.

I'll try again.Talking around the topic seems to be the OFT Faither's tactic.Losing ground with every revelation,they have little option.Ignore or belittle ad hominum etc.That is why the undecideds are coming to our side.It's funny I never find any trollish (talking in hoops) people in real life,just on line.In real life,I encounter a form of Faither-ism that starts out strong,but whithers in the face of facts.That is the real arena,not here with the crew of Faithers,these trollish ones are mere practice.When you are able to engage these,dealing with actual people with critical thinking on display,is a piece of cake.

So thanks guys,you are actually advancing the cause of accountability despite your efforts.Somebody ought to give out a raise,you've earned it.

Somebody ought to give out a raise,you've earned it.

Isn't that the truth!

Originally posted by REMISNE
Hooper,

I am still wating for you to post actual evidence of the claim that you made that 95% of flight 93 was recovered and is in storage.

I would never do that for fear of waking you abruptly from your peaceful denial.

The FBI spokesman said they recovered 95% of plane, you can look up his quote, it is posted on this website about 50 times to say the least.

You won't be bothered to go to google and type in "iron mountain" AND "flight 93" then you can keep trolling on and on about serial numbers. No one would ever bother with a troll like you, you are ready to hand wave anything that does not reinforce your fanatasy. You don't believe an FBI representative speaking on the record to a news conference but for some reason you'll believe a piece of paper he produces. You can't be bothered to contact the very people who have all the info you supposedly want.

Tell everyone when you are ready to deal in reality.

Image taken from CNN

[edit on 21-2-2010 by deadforce]

Originally posted by deadforce
Image taken from CNN

[edit on 21-2-2010 by deadforce]

And you think the Haskells' story has been substantiated ?

Originally posted by hooper
The FBI spokesman said they recovered 95% of plane, you can look up his quote, it is posted on this website about 50 times to say the least.

I do not care about his quote, the FBI has stated a lot of things it does not make it true. I want actual evidence, you know the type that would hold up court. Like photos with sources.

reply to post by Alfie1

And you think the Haskells' story has been substantiated ?

Yes, just like the OS fairytale the government gave us, which you are defending.
Can you substantiated the OS with credible sciences?
What sciences can you show ATS members that prove the OS is one hundred percent true?
If one major lie is proven in the OS, then there is a good chance that most of the OS is all a lie.

Why would the government need to lie to their own people, remembers they told us, out siders attack us, there is no reason to lie to us, don’t you agree.

Originally posted by REMISNE

Originally posted by hooper
The FBI spokesman said they recovered 95% of plane, you can look up his quote, it is posted on this website about 50 times to say the least.

I do not care about his quote, the FBI has stated a lot of things it does not make it true. I want actual evidence, you know the type that would hold up court. Like photos with sources.

Like the kind that sent Habib Zacarias Moussaoui to prison for the rest of his life, that kind of "hold up in court"? Or that special court that exist only in your imagination?

Truther Movement Can't Be Stopped Unless you tell the Truth.

From then, The movement will seek something else then the truth

Originally posted by hooper
Like the kind that sent Habib Zacarias Moussaoui to prison for the rest of his life, that kind of "hold up in court"?

Please be mature enough to stay on topic.

Still waiting for the evidence that flight 93 remains are in Iron Mountain.

Originally posted by REMISNE

Originally posted by hooper
Like the kind that sent Habib Zacarias Moussaoui to prison for the rest of his life, that kind of "hold up in court"?

Please be mature enough to stay on topic.

Still waiting for the evidence that flight 93 remains are in Iron Mountain.

Hey, you said that you wanted evidence that would hold up in court, I cited the court case wherein the evidence was presented and upheld, resulting in a conviction.

Google "iron mountain" and "flight 93".