Truther Movement Can't Be Stopped

Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by REMISNE
Hooper,

I am still wating for you to post actual evidence of the claim that you made that 95% of flight 93 was recovered and is in storage.

I would never do that for fear of waking you abruptly from your peaceful denial.

The FBI spokesman said they recovered 95% of plane, you can look up his quote, it is posted on this website about 50 times to say the least.

You won't be bothered to go to google and type in "iron mountain" AND "flight 93" then you can keep trolling on and on about serial numbers. No one would ever bother with a troll like you, you are ready to hand wave anything that does not reinforce your fanatasy. You don't believe an FBI representative speaking on the record to a news conference but for some reason you'll believe a piece of paper he produces. You can't be bothered to contact the very people who have all the info you supposedly want.

Tell everyone when you are ready to deal in reality.

Dude, all of your 1000 posts are on threads relating to 9/11 in one way or another. And you call that guy a troll? you're a cartoon character dude.

Just wanted to add I don't know of anybody who would spend that much time and effort attacking those trying to connect the dots of 9/11 just 'for fun'.

[edit on 22-2-2010 by Moonman1111]

Originally posted by Moonman1111
Dude, all of your 1000 posts are on threads relating to 9/11 in one way or another. And you call that guy a troll?

you're a cartoon character dude.

Yes its so funny and a little sad how he just keeps posting asking for evidence but can never post any when asked.



[edit on 23-2-2010 by REMISNE]

If they take down Youtube, the truth movement would come to a sudden, screeching, halt....
Cannot be stopped my rear end.

Originally posted by defcon5
If they take down Youtube, the truth movement would come to a sudden, screeching, halt....
Cannot be stopped my rear end.

What has Youtube got to do with anything ???????

reply to post by REMISNE


About 99.9% of the threads that truthers start on ATS go like this:

Provocative title...
Short comment...
Youtube video link...

Originally posted by john124

It was seen standing behind a BBC correspondent even as she reported its collapse. Clearly --she had gotten the official 'release' but screwed up by reporting this planned event before it, in fact, occurred.

Oh so now they had to give her a script. How silly and stupid would that have been. Here darling, here's a script of what WE EVIL PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO DO!!! Why not just let her report it as it happens, if they planned it to happen! DUH!!!

It wasn't really "Here darling, here's a script of what WE EVIL PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO DO", it was more like "Here's your job - read this". And I think it's obvious she got it too early.

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by john124

It was seen standing behind a BBC correspondent even as she reported its collapse. Clearly --she had gotten the official 'release' but screwed up by reporting this planned event before it, in fact, occurred.

Oh so now they had to give her a script. How silly and stupid would that have been. Here darling, here's a script of what WE EVIL PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO DO!!! Why not just let her report it as it happens, if they planned it to happen! DUH!!!

It wasn't really "Here darling, here's a script of what WE EVIL PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO DO", it was more like "Here's your job - read this". And I think it's obvious she got it too early.

And you really think your minor adaption of an insane scenario makes it credible ?

Originally posted by defcon5
About 99.9% of the threads that truthers start on ATS go like this:

Provocative title...
Short comment...
Youtube video link...

I believe you mean 9 %.

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by john124

It was seen standing behind a BBC correspondent even as she reported its collapse. Clearly --she had gotten the official 'release' but screwed up by reporting this planned event before it, in fact, occurred.

Oh so now they had to give her a script. How silly and stupid would that have been. Here darling, here's a script of what WE EVIL PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO DO!!! Why not just let her report it as it happens, if they planned it to happen! DUH!!!

It wasn't really "Here darling, here's a script of what WE EVIL PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO DO", it was more like "Here's your job - read this". And I think it's obvious she got it too early.

Why bother? Why not just let them report it when it fell down?

It makes not one jot of sense to script an independent journalist with a briefing for something you know will happen in an hour's time. You let it happen and then let them report it.

And don't you think the BBC team would have been a bit surprised by the shadowy Man in Black coming up to them and handing over a piece of paper?

"Report this."

"Uh, okay. Why?"

"No reason"

He disappears into the smoke and confusion.

"Who was that guy?"


I mean, is this really credible?

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
And don't you think the BBC team would have been a bit surprised by the shadowy Man in Black coming up to them and handing over a piece of paper?

"Report this."

"Uh, okay. Why?"

"No reason"

He disappears into the smoke and confusion.

"Who was that guy?"

I mean, is this really credible?

To a normal person, not credible at all. However to a truther who believes in conspiracy theories like mini nukes were used, beam weapons were used, pod carrying aircraft, invisible noiseless explosives were used, then yes, they find that credible!

Originally posted by dereks
To a normal person, not credible at all. , then yes, they find that credible!

Kind of OSers find everything they see on TV as credible.

Originally posted by REMISNE

Originally posted by dereks
To a normal person, not credible at all. , then yes, they find that credible!

Kind of OSers find everything they see on TV as credible.

You saw the BBC report on TV? You seem to think it's credible, in that it actually happened.

But perhaps you could answer my question above. Why would you bother to brief the journalist in the manner described? Why not just let the building come down and then allow them to report it normally.

It seems to me that the early report is actually evidence that explosives weren't used. If you were planning to blow up Seven then you'd probably keep it as quiet as possible - not go around telling people that it was about to come down. But if you just thought it was likely to fail then you might go around briefing the media that it might be about to collapse.

Originally posted by dereks
To a normal person, not credible at all. However to a truther who believes in conspiracy theories like mini nukes were used, beam weapons were used, pod carrying aircraft, invisible noiseless explosives were used, then yes, they find that credible!

You keep bringing this up as if it were somehow signifigant. Where are the people talking about mini-nukes, invisible explosives, beam weapons, etc? Where are these people? Not one of them shows up on any of the threads you keep bringing that crap up in. Please help me out and show me where people are making those claims or stop referring to them.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by dereks
To a normal person, not credible at all. However to a truther who believes in conspiracy theories like mini nukes were used, beam weapons were used, pod carrying aircraft, invisible noiseless explosives were used, then yes, they find that credible!

You keep bringing this up as if it were somehow signifigant. Where are the people talking about mini-nukes, invisible explosives, beam weapons, etc? Where are these people? Not one of them shows up on any of the threads you keep bringing that crap up in. Please help me out and show me where people are making those claims or stop referring to them.

Have you heard of Judy Wood? Many in the TM think she's a crank, but I've seen her and her ideas spoken of here as though they had some merit.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
You keep bringing this up as if it were somehow signifigant. Where are the people talking about mini-nukes, invisible explosives, beam weapons, etc? Where are these people? Not one of them shows up on any of the threads you keep bringing that crap up in. Please help me out and show me where people are making those claims or stop referring to them.

Have you heard of Judy Wood? Many in the TM think she's a crank, but I've seen her and her ideas spoken of here as though they had some merit.

So...one whole person? That is why I have to keep hearing that the "truth" movement supposedly supports these ideas? Because one person? I never said that no one has ever made such claims. My point is that your little buddy there keeps harping on a few fringe folks claims and attributing them to anyone that questions what we were told happened that day.

Thank you for making my point. One person.

reply to post by K J Gunderson


Oh dear. You asked whether elements of the Truth Movement ever claimed things like this. When shown that they do, and that others on this forum agree with them, you say they are just "one person".

Here's her website

www.drjudywood.com...


Now do a search of her name on ATS and you will find people who agree with her, who endorse her work. They are part of the Truth Movement. You may think they are cranks - I certainly do - but they are part of your club. Deal with it.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

Oh dear. You asked whether elements of the Truth Movement ever claimed things like this. When shown that they do, and that others on this forum agree with them, you say they are just "one person".

Nope. That is not even remotely close to what I asked. I asked who said these things. WHO. It is thrown out in just about every post by that person so there must be a huge crowd of people pushing these ideas right? I wanted to see this abundance of claims.

crickets

crickets

I wanted to see these claims being actively made in any of the threads that I am participating in.

crickets

crickets

Here's her website

www.drjudywood.com...

She is still one person and she has not posted in any of the threads I am in so my question stands. Who is making these claims and where? If it is her and elsewhere, then there is no reason to keep mentioning it here.

Now do a search of her name on ATS and you will find people who agree with her, who endorse her work. They are part of the Truth Movement. You may think they are cranks - I certainly do - but they are part of your club. Deal with it.

My post history is easily checked and I have posted in many 9/11 threads. There is maybe one person once or twice that made some BS alien claim and was ignored by all. That is it. I do not need to search ATS. If these claims are going to be tossed about in every thread that I am actively posting in then I expect to see them being made in those same threads. This is what I asked for.

crickets.

Not part of my crowd as you falsely assume I belong to any crowd. What is my membership number? Do I pay dues? I am not part of a crowd. There are people that believe in UFOs. That does not mean that they all believe Billy Meiers claims though, does it? I believe in the science of medicine but I also know that doctors can have disagreements. That does not lump them all together with one opinion or the other just because they are doctors. Thanks for going above and beyond to demonstrate what ignorance can do for the decision making process but I did not ask. You seem to be desperate to be part of my conversations here and it is cute but try and be relevant or make sense from now on.

[edit on 2-3-2010 by K J Gunderson]

reply to post by mikelee


Good thread. I agree with most, if not all of what you have said. Have been following this from day one. There were just way too many 'failures' on that tragic day,in my opinion.How is it that so many safeguards,designed to prevent such an event,all fail on the same day? How could various institutions,not directly connected with one another, all "drop the ball" at the most critical of times? Never mind those who scoff at you, it has been my experience that they do this due to sheer ignorance. Then again,I may very well be wrong,maybe the world IS flat,and I will fall off if I sail too close to the edge...

reply to post by K J Gunderson


Whatever. You think nobody ever claims that mininukes or beam weapons were used on the WTC on 9/11. Perhaps you doubt the existence of "no planers" as well.

In fact all of these are part of the Truth Movement - admittedly on its fringes, but still there. Your claim that they don't exist is risible.

www.checktheevidence.co.uk...

www.drjudywood.com...

www.nomoregames.net...

As for their reception here

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Several posters seem to agree with them. If you can be bothered you can check more. Though I doubt you will, since your attitude to evidence you don't agree with is apparently to pretend it doesn't exist. Wonder why you're a Truther?

reply to post by Parallex


Couldn't have said it better myself. I am a noobie and I see quite a bit of this going on. Joined this site in hopes of conversing with others of like mind and intelligence. Guess the "head in the sand" types are everywhere you go tho' . Again, good post., c ya round...