Truther Movement Can't Be Stopped

Almost every person that studies the evidence is persuaded that there is some portion of the story that doesn't add up. There are a small minority of individuals (mainly on internet forums like this one) that viciously defend every government position, no matter how ridiculous or psychotic.

The evolution from ignorance to knowledge flows in one direction almost without exception. Those who have studied the evidence on 911 discover the truth and never look back - very rarely have I seen this process in reverse.

The truth is out, and for those who continue to perpetrate the crime of 911 by deceiving those seeking truth, the end is near and there is nothing you can do about it.

Justice will prevail!

[edit on 29-1-2010 by Smack]

reply to post by 1SawSomeThings

If they are ignorant, they should do research, and not post when they don't do enough background research to know better.

So if someone does "research" and comes to a different conclusion than you, the only alternatives avialable is that either you or the other person is lying. Interesting.

So then there is no path to the truth, no wrong turns, or misdirection - there is only the absolute and perfect truth as revealed to you through the virtue of your "research" and alternately there is the immoral act of lying - otherwise known as denying your revealed truth.

Sounds vaguely familiar.

The 911 attack was a diversionary operation to camouflage 70 trillion dollars worth of catastrophe bonds & derivative carbon credit trading at the Chicago Merc through KPMG's hedge funds to UN's environmental trust banker Zug (Al Gore & Maurice Strong Generation Investments) during a 30 hr standown of American and Canadian military forces.
The failed attempt of the flight that exploded over Pennsylvania, most likely headed to the Capitol forced Chinese Naval and Russian Air Forces to standown their war games occurring at the same time in the Straights of Formosa and the arctic above Canada.
Operation Mockingbird
www.youtube.com...

70 trillion? That sounds like a lot.

Are you sure?

"I mean if anyone actually wanted to "stop" the truthers, their parents could just ground them and that would eliminate 97% of them right off the bat."

If this is true, over eight years later and some people have nothing better to do, but visit conspiracy sites and hurl insults at little kids. If that's how you get your jollies, more power to you.

reply to post by SphinxMontreal


Haha its true though. The truther movement is mainly located in internet threads which are pointless.

You spend years argueing with each other over it, and yet no-one else cares.

reply to post by FAQAmerica


Your avatar perfectly describes you

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reply to post by Heritical Monkey

Also,methinks,to dispose of some of those fake gold bars.
Not Au ,,,W Just like jr. Fake

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Originally posted by Smack
Almost every person that studies the evidence is persuaded that there is some portion of the story that doesn't add up. There are a small minority of individuals (mainly on internet forums like this one) that viciously defend every government position, no matter how ridiculous or psychotic.

You need to rephrase this- almost every person who goes to these damned fool internet conspiracy web sites for their information is persuaded that there is some portion that doesn't add up. This isn't becuase there's any actual impropriety going on. It means the con artists behind these web sites are pushing out all sorts of utter horse [censored] and making mountains out of molehills to get people all paranoid over shadows, and their audience swallows it up becuase they don't know they're not being given the whole truth.

I said this before and I'll say it again- if the conspiracy theorists would only hold their own conspiracies up to the same high standard of critical analysis that they do the commission report, they wouldn't be conspiracy theorists for very long. Genuine critical analysis would get rid of those crackpot "lasers from outer space", "nukes in the basement", "hologram airplanes", and "secret satan worshipping cults" conspriacies right off the bat.

Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Genuine critical analysis would get rid of those crackpot "lasers from outer space", "nukes in the basement", "hologram airplanes", and "secret satan worshipping cults" conspriacies right off the bat.

Dave

I've been on this site for less than 2 months, I've seen physics discussed, plane/flight paths, Military Professionals, never your above quote.

Why do you keep writing that tripe.

Is it because you can't defend against the TM real arguements?

Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Genuine critical analysis would get rid of those crackpot "lasers from outer space", "nukes in the basement", "hologram airplanes", and "secret satan worshipping cults" conspriacies right off the bat.

So you must believe everything you see on TV that the media tells you.

I happen to do proper reserch using mostly government and professional sites.

Originally posted by Sean48
Dave

I've been on this site for less than 2 months, I've seen physics discussed, plane/flight paths, Military Professionals, never your above quote.

Why do you keep writing that tripe.

Because it's true. It wasn't a few weeks ago that someone posted here that the towers were brought down by a secret cult of Satan worshippers becuase they looked like a giant number eleven, and VERY recently, we had a person claim that the devastation in Haiti was caused by secret gov't earthquake machines. I've seen a lot of crackpot conspiracy claims, but I have to admit that one even made ME say, "huh?"

Granted, these claims are the fringe of the fringe, but you're all getting this rubbish from the exact same original source- those damned fool conspiracy web sites. Regardless of how weird the claim is, someone, somewhere out on the internet will still believe it.

Is it because you can't defend against the TM real arguements?

I don't know, I have no idea what "TM" means. That acronym is something you conspiracy people are coming up with, not anyone else.

Of course the truther movement will go on and on.

Changes of administration don't matter. There will always be them and us..

There are deep psychological reasons for it all :

www.world-mysteries.com...

reply to post by Alfie1


Actually a decent read Alf, not sure where I would fit in , as I'm a late comer

to the TM. Thanks for link.

I found 1 that applies the the OS side. en.wikipedia.org...

Now can we resume talks about the 911 event?

Originally posted by Sean48

I found 1 that applies the the OS side. en.wikipedia.org...

The definition of, "persons who voluntarily acquiesce to a suggestion without sufficient research to understand fully the scope of the ramifications involved in that decision" more fully described the conspiracy theorists, rather than anyone else. Anyone who actually believes a gov't could sneak hordes of ninjas in in and plant secret controlled demolitions in a gigantic occupied building without being discovered or leaving a microbe of evidence behind is giving the gov't way, WAY too much credit, particularly a gov't that can't even hand out bottles of water to hurricane victims in New Orleans without slipping on banana peels.

Originally posted by Sean48
I've been on this site for less than 2 months, I've seen physics discussed, plane/flight paths, Military Professionals, never your above quote.
Why do you keep writing that tripe.
Is it because you can't defend against the TM real arguements?

Uhm, how about because those of us that have been here for awhile have seen all of the above, all you have to do is use the 'search' function. But here, I'll make it easy for you:

"hologram airplanes"
"lasers from outer space"
"nukes in the basement"

Of course add other funny stuff to those, like the "flyover theory", "super-duper thermite", "hush-a-booms demo", "flight 93 shootdown", the ever so hilarious "faked calls from the planes", etc etc etc... and you can easily see how these "theories" go in cycles, and have to be changed to fit the absurdity that they present. Stick around long enough and you'll see the above threads come back as something new and as a "smoking gun"

reply to post by Soloist


Kinda can say the same thing for you OSer's as well. Don Rumsfeld says it was shot down yet you types call it an error. Firemen who speak out against the OS and you types call them misinformed. Architects question the OS and you types call them unprofesssional. Pilots who seek the truth you types call them stupid. George Bush can't keep his lies straight as to what happened or even when he first heard about the first plane crashing into the towers. Dick Cheney is on video as well tape stating a lot of things regarding the events of 911 that keep being contradicted by OSer's because its hard to keep their lies straight trying to defend such a stupid & ignorant explanation as the OS.

I have been reading ATS since about '03 and being a somewhat new registered member I know to use the search feature well. When you search for the OS it brings up the same people with the same lame defense & rhetoric in which John Farmer the Senior Counsel for the 911 Commission calls a lie. I guess it would make one upset to know that the same people who made up the OS now call it a lie. So, say what you will or what makes you feel comfortable in your bubble of denial and we'll keep searching for the truth. Don't move, we got it. Wouldn't want you to break a sweat or pull a muscle now.





[edit on 5-2-2010 by mikelee]

Originally posted by mikelee
Kinda can say the same thing for you OSer's as well. Don Rumsfeld says it was shot down yet you types call it an error. Firmen who speak out against the OS and you types call them misinformed. Architects question the OS and you types call them unprofesssional. Pilots who seek the truth you types call them stupid. George Bush can't keep his lies straight as to what happened or even when he first heard about the first plane crashing into the towers. Dick Cheney is on video as well tape stating a lot of things regarding the events of 911 that keep being contradicted by OSer's because its hard to keep their lies straight trying to defend such a stupid & ignorant explanation as the OS.

Your attempt to dodge and deflect the point is noted. Sure people can make errors, be misinformed, unprofessional, and yes, downright stupid. That does not make it an "inside job." No matter how much you may want it to be, or NEED it to be.

Which of the "conspiracies" do you endorse then? You sure can't have them all.

Don't move, we got it. Wouldn't want you to break a sweat or pull a muscle now.

Trust me, myself and others will not be holding our breath for the next "smoking gun." Kinda funny how everyone thinks they know so much, but after all this time still haven't figured it out yet.

It's easy, it's one word. Denial.

reply to post by Soloist


I'm not dodging anything, any time you want an answer to something I'll answer you straight up with no hesitation whatsoever. I was replying to your post above because of your obvious denial status regarding the events of 911 which have been outlined in the 911 report that has proven to be not only a lie but a joke to the rest of the world. You can call me whatever you makes you feel better about your myth-guided belief in the OS but a fact remains untouched by anyof you. And that is what YOU believe is, simply is not. The word naive' & ignorant comes to mind where people believe in something when it has been proven to be full of more holes than a bordelo in the Nevada desert.