Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

reply to post by pavil


Wow, you sure can put a lot of words into others' mouths!


I suggested you show a little compassion and understanding for a nation of people who have lived generations in what resembles a prison camp.

Whilst settler children paddle in their swimming pools and play amongst the sprinkler systems on their lush lawns, palestinian kids suck on the dregs of water barrels and mooch around concrete rubble and dust.



Because I point out the ugly realities of Isreali Apartheid does not mean I support suicide bombers or the slaughter of civilians by either 'side' - but I believe I did actually say that

Originally posted by John Matrix

Originally posted by Harlequin
now i laugh

www.timesonline.co.uk...


Good, it's about time they got tough and called a spade a spade. You are known by the company you keep. If you have associations or talks with Hamas behind Israel's back, then you are, and should be, considered one of them and treated accordingly.

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U.S. Designates Five Charities Funding Hamas and Six Senior Hamas Leaders as Terrorist Entities

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reply to post by t0ken

You see UK knows how to form 'diplomatic relations' with terrorist organisations UNDERCOVER.

Wasn't it the UK doing that when they bowed to the terrorist actions against them from the Stern Gang and the Irgun, and pulled out of the British Mandate without honoring the terms of it by seeing half the land went to each party, and each party had a secure and self governed state set up as per the mandate.

reply to post by John Matrix


Actually if you would care to read the thread yourself you'd would see that ive been posting in it since the start

They teach children to hate?
And the west does not do that?, Do they also teach their children that material things are all that matters in this world?
Do they also raise their kids to think that being on MTV's "Super sweet 16" is somthing to be proud off?
Maybe you should look at your own culture before you badmouth another

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by John Matrix

 

Good, it's about time that got tough and called a spade a spade. You are known by the company you keep. If you have associations or talks with Hamas behind Israel's back, then you are, and should be, considered one of them and treated accordingly.

Oh dear, and to think I have written letters to all my U.S. Reps to the Congress and the Senate asking them to vote against all funding for Israel and to fund Hamas instead!

How is it I am accordingly to be treated for that?

Well, If you actually were stupid enough to do that you better have a PI check your phone lines and start watching your back. You have no idea how serious our gov. looks at people that advocate for terrorist organisations. Send Hamas 20 bucks and see where it gets you if you get caught.

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Originally posted by Runningtobabylon

They teach children to hate?
And the west does not do that?, ......
Do they also raise their kids to think that being on MTV's "Super sweet 16" is somthing to be proud off?
Maybe you should look at your own culture before you badmouth another

Wow, comparing being a suicide bomber to being "Super Sweet 16"???? How is that an even valid comparison. Yes both cultures have shows that youth emulate, which show would you rather have your kid watch?? Not that MTV is a great choice.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by t0ken

 

Some of the most backward-assed, contentious countries in history.

Shouldn't call those countries 'back-ward assed' when one depends on their droppings.

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reply to post by pavil


Scuicide bombers are a product of their envrioment
Does that make it ok? Hell no and it is the stupidest form off attack i have ever heard off
BUT
realisticly 0.5% of kids in the middle east actually want to be a terrorist (or freedom fighter as they see themselfs) , i would bet my entire weeks pay that at least 80% of americas youth would rather money over love, a new car over a pillgramage etc..
Wouldnt you think

Originally posted by Harlequin

apparantly you can`t read either - the EU is not a country.

its not 27 countries.

it is nothing like the USA.

it is a political entity with subscription based membership to look after its members intersts - but those members are seperate countries in there own right.

Yes, but the EU IS a kind of ruling political power also in these countries and can make statements for the member countries!

European Union

It has developed a role in foreign policy, representing its members in the World Trade Organisation, at G8 summits and at the United Nations.

And here's from the link in the external quote:

Common Foreign and Security Policy

The Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP) is the organised, agreed foreign policy of the European Union (EU) for mainly security and defence diplomacy and actions. CFSP deals only with a specific part of the EU External Relations

And let's follow the link in the above quote one more time!

Foreign Relations of the European Union

Although there has been a large degree of integration between European Union member states, foreign relations is still a largely inter-governmental matter, with the 27 members controlling their own relations to a large degree. However with the Union holding more weight as a single bloc, there are at times attempts to speak with one voice

So, I would take this to mean that when the EU makes an announcement, like, 'Hamas is a terrorist organization', that they are speaking "with one voice" because carries "more weight as a single bloc", otherwise they would have let each member country voice it's own opinion on the matter.

Well, that's my understanding of this anyway.

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Originally posted by pavil
reply to post by t0ken

 

Show me current evidence showing diplomatic relations between the UK government and Hamas.

Don't need to show evidence, if UK can form relations with millitants worse than Hamas than i don't know what more evidence you want.

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reply to post by RogerT


Roger, I haven't read all your posts, just from the one I quote from it's plain that you see the problem as only Israel's fault and the Palestinians simply responding in a way you seem to think is valid. I point out that it takes to to tango or have warfare.

There is more than enough blame for both sides in this. They should move every child born in Israel and Palestine somewhere else till the so called adults either learn to live with each other or kill each other off. Either way works for me, to be honest. Sometime soon, this cycle needs to stop.

reply to post by Keyhole

That's quite true, UK has given up nearly all top end powers, just finacial and miltary remain in our hands. EU is like one voice these days.

reply to post by John Matrix

They also use children as human shields. Did you see that video? Or did you just swagger onto this thread without reading all the pages of comments and videos posted long before you showed up here?

Oh you mean like the posting yesterday where even you had to admit that the Gaza Strip is so densely packed it would be impossible for women and children to not get caught in the cross fire.

Maybe if 1.3 million people weren’t so densely packed into an area twice the size of Washington D.C., but had actually been granted half the overall territory promised to them by the British Mandate that legalized Jewish immigration to Palestine, their children would happily be playing in wide open spaces, and no one would be firing rockets at the Israeli’s who contrived from the onset to utilize terrorism to seize all the land and run off all the Arabs in the process.

Here is a novel idea. Israel honors the original Mandate!!! They withdraw from all the lands they occupied in violation of the treaty and see if maybe in ‘finally’ honoring their original commitment for the ‘first’ time the Palestinians will be happy.

Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
reply to post by John Matrix

 

Actually if you would care to read the thread yourself you'd would see that ive been posting in it since the start

They teach children to hate?
And the west does not do that?, Do they also teach their children that material things are all that matters in this world?
Do they also raise their kids to think that being on MTV's "Super sweet 16" is somthing to be proud off?
Maybe you should look at your own culture before you badmouth another

If you are going to quote and respond can you do it properly? I don't want people thinking that I typed your nonsense.

Ya, there is hate in most hearts everywhere but, Ever see a kids program made in the USA that teaches children to hate Muslims? That's what I was referring to. Think before you respond. I posted the Islam children's programs where they talk about death to Jews and Americans.

Some people might teach their kids that material things matter, but most of the people in America don't do that. And they don't go teaching their kids to hate Jews, fire missiles, and strap bombs to themselves to kill innocent civilians.

MTV? What is wrong with you? What does that have to do with Muslims raising their children to hate Jews and Americans? As materialistic as you think we are, it has nothing to do with the topic,

Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
reply to post by pavil

 

Suicide bombers are a product of their environment

But when a society actively encourages such behavior on childrens TV shows, that's messed up, don't you agree?


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reply to post by pavil


Please show me where this has happend

Originally posted by t0ken
Originally posted by pavil
reply to post by t0ken

 

Show me current evidence showing diplomatic relations between the UK government and Hamas.

Don't need to show evidence, if UK can form relations with millitants worse than Hamas than i don't know what more evidence you want.

So I take that to mean you haven't found any evidence, eh?

" Proof???, I Don't need no stinkin' proof"


BTW, I hate nested quotes
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Originally posted by pavil

Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
reply to post by pavil

 

Suicide bombers are a product of their environment

But when a society actively encourages such behavior on childrens TV shows, that's messed up, don't you agree?

What do you expect that society to do?

Make childrens TV shows that shows how the Zionist Angel drops a bomb and kills 300 of its people?

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by John Matrix

 

They also use children as human shields. Did you see that video? Or did you just swagger onto this thread without reading all the pages of comments and videos posted long before you showed up here?

Oh you mean like the posting yesterday where even you had to admit that the Gaza Strip is so densely packed it would be impossible for women and children to not get caught in the cross fire.

Maybe if 1.3 million people weren’t so densely packed into an area twice the size of Washington D.C., but had actually been granted half the overall territory promised to them by the British Mandate that legalized Jewish immigration to Palestine, their children would happily be playing in wide open spaces, and no one would be firing rockets at the Israeli’s who contrived from the onset to utilize terrorism to seize all the land and run off all the Arabs in the process.

Here is a novel idea. Israel honors the original Mandate!!! They withdraw from all the lands they occupied in violation of the treaty and see if maybe in ‘finally’ honoring their original commitment for the ‘first’ time the Palestinians will be happy.

No, I mean like the terrorist coward that dragged what looked like a 10 yr old boy by the arm across an open area to where he threw him at a crowd of children they had gathered up for human shields.

Stop second guessing people and jumping to conclusions while putting words in people's mouths that they never said.

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