Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

reply to post by Runningtobabylon


You cannot possibly be trying to compare the Palestinian children being taught as young as 3, to hate and desire to kill all Israeli’s???

You cannot possible be comparing teaching children it is glorious to blow yourself up as long as you kill some women and children also????

You cannot compare strapping a bomb on a 5year old, sending him to a crossing checkpoint and blowing there child into a million pieces???

Palestinians may find it silly to have children desire to be successful, get a full education of knowledge, not hate and to build things not destroy them.

Is the western teaching perfect, no.

Is it really important to want a car or want to be on a TV show, not really?

That said, it "IS" MUCH better than only wanting to hate and murder people.

Interesting the differences we see when we look at the whole picture.

Btw, how can anyone hope for peace, when the children of Palestinians only learn hate and death....makes it easy to understand how conflicts like this last for generations?

reply to post by Runningtobabylon


Ok, here you go....

Take a long look and you tell me what you think....

www.pmw.org.il...

so John Matrix - when evidence doesn`t suite your agenda you dismiss it out of hand? only a true zionist would spout such rubbish

reply to post by mrmonsoon


What?
When have you ever heard of a 5 year old scuicide bomber?
Most of the people that do that crap are either heartbroken because the opposing side has damaged their family or somthing along those lines

Saying all middle eastern kids are brought up to hate jews and the west is like sayign all kids born in the american "bible belt" are raised to hate gays, any person off another faith and take the bible literally
Really man, Grow up ..stop sterotyping everyone and painting the whole middle east with the same brush

Ps: Ty pavil , shall watch it now and get back to you

reply to post by John Matrix

Well, If you actually were stupid enough to do that you better have a PI check your phone lines and start watching your back. You have no idea how serious our gov. looks at people that advocate for terrorist organisations. Send Hamas 20 bucks and see where it gets you if you get caught.

Wow! What a statement. Actually I have a thing called free speech here in America, my government in America guarantees. I also have the right to write my representatives here in America and inform them where I would like or not like my tax dollars to go.

I also have the right to self determination here in America, which my government also guarantees. If I determine by my self, which I have, that Zionist Terrorists violated the British Mandate set forth by the United Nations to legalize Jewish immigration to Palestine and award them half the land for a self governed state and the other half of the land to the Arabs for a self governed state and that the Zionist Terrorism that led to that agreement being fulfilled to it’s letter is wrong, then guess what? I get to say it’s wrong.

My government guarantees me that ability. If my government funds opposition parties and supports regime changes from time to time, as a citizen I get to have something called representation that allows me to suggest which regimes should be changed and which political organizations should be supported.

Now if anyone doesn’t appreciate that I am an American Citizen, and that I have all those inalienable rights, well they are very welcome to try to take my inalienable rights away from me.

They can tap my phones, try to discredit me, fix my car special just for me, take advantage that I don’t always look both ways before I cross the street, it makes no difference to me.

Because…some very wise men who founded this country on Separation of Church and State said a long time ago that from time to time “The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of Patriots, despots and tyrants”.

Good luck in trying to take my liberty from me!

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Here is a novel idea. Israel honors the original Mandate!!! They withdraw from all the lands they occupied in violation of the treaty and see if maybe in ‘finally’ honoring their original commitment for the ‘first’ time the Palestinians will be happy.

I have to say, whoever drew up the original Partition map must have been an idiot. The borders are totally indefensible from a military aspect, that should have been taken into consideration, but the Brits usually did a horrible job of dividing things back then, witness the partition of India and Pakistan. They did horrible jobs with that.

reply to post by pavil


Ok il will admit they are some disguisting things there
But have you ever seen the doc. "Jesus camp" ?
It is really just the western version of all these
I suggest you check it out

Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
reply to post by pavil

 

Please show me where this has happend

1. Hamas' Children TV with a Terrorist Jew-Eating Rabbit

www.youtube.com...

2. Hamas Children's TV Shows Boy Stabbing President Bush To Death

www.youtube.com...

3. Hamas children show teaches: Jews are murderers

www.youtube.com...

4. Hamas Mickey Mouse Teaches Terror to Kids

www.youtube.com...

Now check this page. There are tons of videos like this here:
www.youtube.com...

Someone please spoon feed these sheeple and embed the videos in a post here. I would but I don't know how.

reply to post by Harlequin


That is not on topic, har, that is TAC violating name calling.

Please, stick to the topic at hand, in this thread it is about the counter attack.

That said, a previous poster had a good point.

I wonder if all the Palestinian children and all the Israeli children were removed and grew up together away from all the hate their parents spout, I bet they would be friends.

I bet they would be absolutely sickened by their parents, what they do and teach.

Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
reply to post by pavil

 

Ok il will admit they are some disguisting things there
But have you ever seen the doc. "Jesus camp" ?
It is really just the western version of all these
I suggest you check it out

There are cults that teach false things. But I don't see people from this Jesus Camp movie firing missiles and killing people.

Originally posted by mrmonsoon

I wonder if all the Palestinian children and all the Israeli children were removed and grew up together away from all the hate their parents spout, I bet they would be friends.

I bet they would be absolutely sickened by their parents, what they do and teach.

i disagree with you alot monsoon but that is a very true statment
I agree with you full heartly
My guess or hope rather , is a few generations down the line arabs and jews look back at this and laugh rather than fight

reply to post by John Matrix


No
But you do see the head of the jesus camp org. comparing the children that go to her camp as the wests defence against the eastern "threat" that is islam

reply to post by Runningtobabylon


NP, Memri.org has a ton of stuff too. I reccomend their Hamas TV section.

www.memritv.org...

Say what you will, their TV shows are messed up.

You have to now register to view the videos, it's free.




[edit on 28-12-2008 by pavil]

reply to post by John Matrix

No, I mean like the terrorist coward that dragged what looked like a 10 yr old boy by the arm across an open area to where he threw him at a crowd of children they had gathered up for human shields.

Who says they were gathering them up for human shields? Did they all hold up a finger painted sign that says "We are Human Shields" with a big smiley face on it?

Or would you just like to assume that there would be no reason for children to be herded together for their own safety in a war zone where cowardly aggressive enemy troops bomb indiscriminately high up in the air?

I suppose all the people who had to endure nights in the Subway during the London Bombings were human shields too?

Do the Palestinians have a subway? Or maybe, could it just maybe be, that their best hope in protecting their children from cowardly stand off and attack organized military forces using weapons of mass destruction, would be to group all the children together so they can clearly be identified as children, in the hopes that some humanity might be shown on the part of the attacking aggressor.

What’s really bothering you about this? That Israel can’t now murder the children without claiming they didn’t know they were children?

Wow! War is just H-E double toothpicks isn’t?

reply to post by pavil


Yes, While i do sympathize with the palistinian people , Those shows are a tad wrong
But like every country you do have brainwashing
You have it in the US, UK, most of the EU , Russia etc..

EVERYWHERE

Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
reply to post by John Matrix

 

No
But you do see the head of the jesus camp org. comparing the children that go to her camp as the wests defence against the eastern "threat" that is islam

Muslim/Islam extremists advocate hatred and terrorism. They also put women to death for adultery and justify it by their religious beliefs which is also their law. They also advocate taking over the entire world and subjecting all of us to their laws. If we do not stop them from taking over the world, then they will succeed and most of our women will be put to death for adultery and infidelity and we will all be forced to answer their call to prayer everyday or face criminal prosecution and punishment.

I'm glad you brought this up. Maybe now you can see the error of your condemning Christians.

reply to post by John Matrix


Your telling me if fundie christains could have the same way they wouldnt?
I.E making homosexuality illegal and forcing government to obey bible law?
Please

reply to post by Runningtobabylon


A Tad wrong??

While I will grant you that there are programs around the world that influence youth, none can be compared to the standard that HAMAS TV has set.

It's like they are insane, teaching their children such values. I don't care how bleak and desperate you are, you always want a "better life" for your kids.

And people wonder why Palestinian children have such a bleak outlook on life.



[edit on 28-12-2008 by pavil]

Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
reply to post by pavil

 

Yes, While i do sympathize with the palistinian people , Those shows are a tad wrong
But like every country you do have brainwashing
You have it in the US, UK, most of the EU , Russia etc..

EVERYWHERE

First you agree the shows are a tad wrong, then you compare them with what you consider to be brainwashing in that list of countries?

A tad wrong? It's child abuse in the USA to do that to children. You get your kids removed by the gov. if you do that here? It's a lot more than a tad wrong when it leads children to causing terrorism, death and destruction aimed at civilians.

There is a serious revealing of a damaged moral compass within your statements.

reply to post by pavil


Sorry i said "Tad" i ment they are REALLY wrong
Forgot sarcasim dosnt work over the internet
I really do think those tv shows are morbbidly wrong , In every sense
But as i said, You have it in every walks off life , in every country
Just some are more subtle than others