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Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by John Matrix
 


as have i exposed israel propaganda - that picture is of IDF soldiers pretending to be hamas - the star of david gives it away that he`s jewish not muslim.


You know nothing about the law or rules of evidence. In a court of law that photo proves nothing.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:43 AM
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and to reply in the same tone of yours - your so called `case` of user submitted video `evidence` on a user run website - you tube , stands for absolutely nothing in all courts.

so your entire arguement of `pallywood` holds no water , based upon your own argement of evidence.

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i will also add , that given the total lack of moderation on `you tube` or goole video , unless complaints are made then video`s just sit there , in fact stories or controversial video`s are released in the streaming format on the lack of moderation you tube before any attempt at garnering MSM exposure - in fact that exposure can be gained by posting on you tube , because they know the topic - from school children taking part in underage and illegal activities - to soccor moms stabbing each other to radical splinter religous groups (on all sides , christian , muslim , jewish, sihk, hundu and bhuddist to name just some) posting there various hate inspired rubbish for there own nevarious gain.

so you state that `pallywood` is alive and well - i submit this , prove that the video`s are not in fact been faked to seem that the dead children are in fact alive and well , using doubles and make up artists by `the other side` - prove that conjecture.

oh wait , you cant.

[edit on 28/12/08 by Harlequin]



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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What? Who told you it was a star of David? I sure don't see anything, the picture is too blurry. Second, why would I or any one else stop bringing up how the Palestinians fake attacks all the time? That a court of law proves it exists? Anyone who actually watches the documentary or read the material I provided would know this. But you readily admit that you hate the Jews and won't hear any thing that puts terrorists in a bad light.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by John Matrix
 


and to reply in the same tone of yours - your so called `case` of user submitted video `evidence` on a user run website - you tube , stands for absolutely nothing in all courts.

so your entire arguement of `pallywood` holds no water , based upon your own argement of evidence.


Except the videos on You tube were taken to court and the court found that Pallywood did exist because of those videos! So you may want to edit that.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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so you deny that picture?

do you also deny the holocaust that is happening right now?

thats clearly a necklace of a star of david - if you can`t see it then an eye test is in order.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:53 AM
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not in my country they wern`t - and remember that HAMAS is only called a terrorist organisation by those who oppose them , the rest of the planet support there actions. and even pay for them.

so which country said the video was fake? and prove teh judge wasn`t paid for.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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First, again, the video you discredit because its on YT was used in court and the court found Pallywood existed. Second, can you prove the picture is real? No one else but you sees a star of David.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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This topic can become very contentious very quickly, as has already been demonstrated. For that reason, everyone should a deep breath and remember that as a general rule of thumb, it is better to discuss the topic and keep the Ad Hominem/Personal Attacks to a zero.

Thank you for your understanding.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:58 AM
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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by GamerGal
 


not in my country they wern`t - and remember that HAMAS is only called a terrorist organisation by those who oppose them , the rest of the planet support there actions. and even pay for them.

so which country said the video was fake? and prove teh judge wasn`t paid for.


What country are you in? The EU, Japan, America, Australia, Canada, all consider them terrorists.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:11 PM
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And that my friend is exactly why no Arab nation will stand against Israel.

Well let’s see two of Israel’s closest Arab neighbors Egypt and Jordan won’t stand against Israel because American Tax Payer dollars to the tune of several billion dollars annually are paid to them not too. Lebanon still fires off rockets at you from time despite years of Israeli incursions to destabilize it and the theft of a buffer zone of land. Syria and Iran arm Lebanese factions by proxy to fight those battles mainly because they can’t purchase the same kind of advance weapon systems the U.S. Tax Payers give you for free.


Israel does not live by the sword.

I suppose your right what was the terrorist Stern Gang and Irgun’s weapon of choice in their bloody terror campaign to oust the lawful British Government of the Mandate? C-4?


They are a productive and industrious people that would rather build up than destroy. Israel transformed a worthless desolate land into what is now lush and productive land.

So did the people of Las Vegas, Nevada and Palm Springs, California and to date here in the U.S. the ability to install sprinkler systems does not grant on the right to violate other people’s human rights.


Land that could have been used for farming was covered in weeds under the Palestinians and Arabs feet long before it was given to Israel.

The Palestinians actually used a centuries old complex system of negotiation with neighboring villages at the start of every planting season of how much land each village needed to plant enough crops for the next season. Sounds like they used very sound land rotation to ensure its continued fertility to me as well as cooperated excellently with one another.


Israel built schools, hospitals, factories, irrigation, and gave many Arabs higher paying jobs than their own countries ever gave them.

Well hey it’s nice that you realized adding millions of non-indigenous human life forms would require infrastructure improvements.

The fact is that Zionists gave strict orders to all Jews not to hire Arabs as a means to starve them into leaving the area. The Stern Gang and the Irgun blew up scores of Hebrew Shops that hired Arab workers in the 30’s and 40s.


They even offered to give Arabs refugee status and take care of them and their families if they had lived in the new Israeli state for 2 or more years prior to the UN resolution.

Wow refugee status in my own country! Hey were can I sign up for that?


They offered to take care of them for life.

They have tried and still are to do everything they can to run them off the land.


But no, that was not good enough. They wanted to live like Desert rats because they were greedy and hateful towards Jews.

Ah maybe that’s because they had lived in the dessert their whole life and was their way of life? I am not to fond of Israeli’s either and I live in the tropics.


We don't say all Muslims are terrorists either. But any Muslim that believes that killing women for infidelity, adultery or prostitution is justified, then they are also terrorists and we want nothing to do with them.

They have their screwed up laws, you have your screwed up laws, unfortunately we in the U.S. have some how been extorted into having to pay for Israel’s screwed up laws.


The Palestinians should suck it up and get along. Then they will find out how generous Israel is and how much better their lives will be.

Looks to me like Israel’s generosity is killing them.


[edit on 28/12/08 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:11 PM
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The EU is not a country



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by GamerGal
 


i have 1 picture for you , since a picture says 1000 words.



`hamas terrorists at a rally`

wearing a star of david .

edit to upload picture to my ats space.

[edit on 28/12/08 by Harlequin]







Here is the front page of Dario de Mexico detailing the infamous incident of two Israeli Mossad agents caught sneaking into the Mexican House of Congress with explosives and personal hand guns. They drew the hand guns when they were spotted. I suppose to deliver a Mossad style double tap to prevent witnesses raising the alarm.

As you may have seen the kind of fisticuffs Mexican politicians get up to on Youtube, unfortunately for the Mossad false flaggers, the hard men of the Mexican parliament chinned them.




Zionist Terrorists Arrested Inside Mexican Congress

MOSSAD Colonel Salvador Guersson Smecke and Saur Ben Zvi were armed and carrying bomb materials

by Ernesto Cienfuegos La Voz de Aztlan Los Angeles, Alta California - October 12, 2001 - (ACN)

We were alerted this morning by a subscriber from Mexico that two Israelis were arrested Wednesday inside the Palacio Legislativo de San Lázaro (Mexican Congress) in Mexico City. Both were armed with 9 mm automatics and one was carrying a military hand grenade, electrical wiring and other bomb related materials. The Israeli Embassy at Sierra Madre 2155, colonia Lomas de Chapultepec has close its doors to the Mexican Press and are refusing to talk. The incident has been independently verified by La Voz de Aztlan through Mexican diplomatic, press and other sources in Mexico City. The Chief of Legislative Security, Salvador Alarcón, has also confirmed the arrest of the two Israeli terrorists. One of them Saur Ben Zvi is a confirmed citizen of Israel and the other, Salvador Guersson, recently immigrated to Mexico from Israel. It is has been determined by the Procuraduría General de la República (Mexican Department of Justice) that Guersson is a retired Colonel of the Israeli Defense Forces and that he may now be operating as a MOSSAD agent. It is not known how they were able to penetrate the extensive security system of the Mexican Legislative Palace. This is a very grave incident with many serious international implications. Many have questioned who may be really behind many of the recent terrorist acts around the world including the ones against the WTC and the Pentagon. The Mexican public and congress has been reticent about declaring war against Islam along with the U.S. It is possible that an act of terrorism against the Mexican Congress was planned in order to "terrorize" Mexico into towing the line against Islam. La Voz de Aztlan will be on top of this developing story to report on new information.



www.aztlan.net...


Through out South America, a number of synagogues were mysteriously bombed and Arabs were blame for them. Logic dictates that Arabs, struggling to fend of the zionist state on their own door step would have no time to search out places of worship on the other side of the planet to destroy. Most like Israel was busy stampeding the diaspora to its zionist redoubt by targeting foreign states and Jews with false flag activities.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:14 PM
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It is 27 countries, all consider Hamas to be terrorists. Even you had to know that.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by GamerGal
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It is 27 countries, all consider Hamas to be terrorists. Even you had to know that.


What do you suppose will happen to Israel when our governments listen to the voters and designate it a centre of terrorism and zionism a fascist ideology?

Hamas was created by Mossad as a kind of Hegelian *snip* only its turned around and is trying to mount its creator.

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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:23 PM
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Any proof Mossad created Hamas? Second, thanks for the info on Egypt! Does sound like a beautiful place to go.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:24 PM
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the answer your question properly since you made that number of 27 up:

canada
usa
japan
israel
and the EU which isn`t a country anyway
and is banned (but not terrorist) in Jordan

Australia and the UK only list the militant arm - the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades as terrorist


so thats 4 countries which say there terrorist , 1 which banned them, an entity which says they`re terrorist but not a country and 2 which have banned the miliitant arm.

in total then thats 7.

also the US state department say that saudia arabia fund them

www.state.gov...

all evidence as supplied

and i would suggest you look into the relationship between Richard Landes and Ruthie Blumm a little more closely before you start running off his work as gospel truth.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:25 PM
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It is 27 countries, all consider Hamas to be terrorists. Even you had to know that.


Your pro-fes-sor who shows you neat 18 minute videos says terrorist.

Some people say F-R-E-E-D-O-M fighters!

The Stern Gang and Irgun were labeled as Terrorist Orginizations that kicked the British of the British Mandate of Palistine...

Should we make the Jews leave because they were and are terrorists?

No? It was alright for Zionists to use terrorism...why?



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by masonwatcher
 


Any proof Mossad created Hamas? Second, thanks for the info on Egypt! Does sound like a beautiful place to go.


Oh it's fantastic. Sharm al'Sheik is not too bad either. I went five years ago before it became expensive and crowded. Excellent scuba diving and extreme sports.




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