Us Marine Drill Sergeant Boasts Of What They Will Do To Civilians Under Martial Law In The Usa/monta

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by Red Cloak
I just laugh at all the people saying no Marine would ever fire on US citizens. Anyone believing that has absolutely zero knowledge of history.

Nobody here has said that.
Marines have a code of honor and most of them are very good people.
Can we say NONE would follow illegal orders? Of course not.

Waste your time on others here who might fall for it.

[edit on 23-12-2008 by Red Cloak]

Originally posted by interested-one

Originally posted by Red Cloak
I just laugh at all the people saying no Marine would ever fire on US citizens. Anyone believing that has absolutely zero knowledge of history.

Maybe so but; only under bizarre situations under extreme circumstances of which I can't imagine. If the Marines are lied to and they think they are protecting other citizens then I might see where they could fire on us. But you can't keep up a lie especially asking Marines to take action against their brothers.

Always understand the military people are US in uniform serving their time in dedication to our country, NEVER FORGET THAT!

There are too many people who have a screw loose and watch way too much tv. I see a lot of paranoia on these boards and it makes me mad when they begin to believe our military brothers and sisters are our enemy. Someone mentioned in their response to this bs post that the military has a numbers problem and this is true. There are way too many military trained civilians like me who have an arsenal in their homes AND CAN USE IT EFFECTIVELY. I do have an small arsenal but I know it will never be used against my countrymen.

Thread is full of posts like "I was in the military and no way, never" or "my so and so is in the military and this is ridiculous", blah, blah, blah.

Yeah well I was in the military too and anyone saying the above is either simply lying or they are seriously fascist already. The military is absolutely teaming with psychopaths.

Originally posted by Red Cloak

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by Red Cloak
I just laugh at all the people saying no Marine would ever fire on US citizens. Anyone believing that has absolutely zero knowledge of history.

Nobody here has said that.
Marines have a code of honor and most of them are very good people.
Can we say NONE would follow illegal orders? Of course not.

Waste your time on others here who might fall for it.

[edit on 23-12-2008 by Red Cloak]

What are you talking about????
Can you show where people here are saying that absolutely NO marine would do that? Of course you can't
Obviously since you've told me that anything I mention to you, is a waste of time, you're saying that you have no intention of changing your mind based on any type of reality other then your own perceived reality. Well good luck with that

Originally posted by unity1
.that the military has properly assessed the civilian resistance/militia threat under martial law, and hence had everything in place for a military takeover USING US MARINES HEAVILY. "

That's rich. The US military couldn't even properly assess the civilian resistance/militia threat in a country that had been bombed for a two straight decades.

My guess is this is a non-issue.

Originally posted by Red Cloak

Originally posted by interested-one

Originally posted by Red Cloak
I just laugh at all the people saying no Marine would ever fire on US citizens. Anyone believing that has absolutely zero knowledge of history.

Maybe so but; only under bizarre situations under extreme circumstances of which I can't imagine. If the Marines are lied to and they think they are protecting other citizens then I might see where they could fire on us. But you can't keep up a lie especially asking Marines to take action against their brothers.

Always understand the military people are US in uniform serving their time in dedication to our country, NEVER FORGET THAT!

There are too many people who have a screw loose and watch way too much tv. I see a lot of paranoia on these boards and it makes me mad when they begin to believe our military brothers and sisters are our enemy. Someone mentioned in their response to this bs post that the military has a numbers problem and this is true. There are way too many military trained civilians like me who have an arsenal in their homes AND CAN USE IT EFFECTIVELY. I do have an small arsenal but I know it will never be used against my countrymen.

Thread is full of posts like "I was in the military and no way, never" or "my so and so is in the military and this is ridiculous", blah, blah, blah.

Yeah well I was in the military too and anyone saying the above is either simply lying or they are seriously fascist already. The military is absolutely teaming with psychopaths.

And you are ??? Paranoid? Schizophrenic??, delusional? on meds?? The Marines kick you out because you like boys? Were you a #BIRD?

You can question my military credentials it's a free world but I feel sorry for you as a supposed ex military whatever calling me a fascist? f you too and I doubt you ever did serve.

You in your ignorance do have a point and the military does have it's share of radical pyschopaths, but so does this forum so think about that.

I think that our ENEMIES are putting crap like this on these boards to turn us against our brethren! Don't for a second believe this and don't turn your back on our brothers and sisters in uniform!

wow, are you that stupid; Marines are smart and would never dishonor their fellow americanws

reply to post by kozmo


Most of the people in the Army and all the people I serve with ( army ) have flat out stated we will NOT fire on U.S. civilians. We have the right to disobey any order that is immoral.The Marines? They are a different story.They scare me a little with the way some of them think.

Originally posted by Red Cloak

Originally posted by interested-one

Originally posted by Red Cloak
I just laugh at all the people saying no Marine would ever fire on US citizens. Anyone believing that has absolutely zero knowledge of history.

Maybe so but; only under bizarre situations under extreme circumstances of which I can't imagine. If the Marines are lied to and they think they are protecting other citizens then I might see where they could fire on us. But you can't keep up a lie especially asking Marines to take action against their brothers.

Always understand the military people are US in uniform serving their time in dedication to our country, NEVER FORGET THAT!

There are too many people who have a screw loose and watch way too much tv. I see a lot of paranoia on these boards and it makes me mad when they begin to believe our military brothers and sisters are our enemy. Someone mentioned in their response to this bs post that the military has a numbers problem and this is true. There are way too many military trained civilians like me who have an arsenal in their homes AND CAN USE IT EFFECTIVELY. I do have an small arsenal but I know it will never be used against my countrymen.

Thread is full of posts like "I was in the military and no way, never" or "my so and so is in the military and this is ridiculous", blah, blah, blah.

Yeah well I was in the military too and anyone saying the above is either simply lying or they are seriously fascist already. The military is absolutely teaming with psychopaths.

And yet another example of ignorance and stupidity showing it's ugly head.

People like you are the ones people need to look out for.If you honestly believe everyone in the military are either crazy or psychopaths, then you are just 1 step shy of living in a powerless cabin in the woods mailing explosives to people.

I too grew up in a military family and have many friends/family members enlisted in the marines/air force/and navy. No army. But regardless, I know of atleast 5,000 in each branch ready to turn this around on "the bad guys" They will NOT kill American women and children or force Americans into modern day concentration camps. Trust me. They don't realize that the second they declare war on the American people, they're declaring war on themselves.

Originally posted by interested-one

Originally posted by Red Cloak

Originally posted by interested-one

Originally posted by Red Cloak
I just laugh at all the people saying no Marine would ever fire on US citizens. Anyone believing that has absolutely zero knowledge of history.

Maybe so but; only under bizarre situations under extreme circumstances of which I can't imagine. If the Marines are lied to and they think they are protecting other citizens then I might see where they could fire on us. But you can't keep up a lie especially asking Marines to take action against their brothers.

Always understand the military people are US in uniform serving their time in dedication to our country, NEVER FORGET THAT!

There are too many people who have a screw loose and watch way too much tv. I see a lot of paranoia on these boards and it makes me mad when they begin to believe our military brothers and sisters are our enemy. Someone mentioned in their response to this bs post that the military has a numbers problem and this is true. There are way too many military trained civilians like me who have an arsenal in their homes AND CAN USE IT EFFECTIVELY. I do have an small arsenal but I know it will never be used against my countrymen.

Thread is full of posts like "I was in the military and no way, never" or "my so and so is in the military and this is ridiculous", blah, blah, blah.

Yeah well I was in the military too and anyone saying the above is either simply lying or they are seriously fascist already. The military is absolutely teaming with psychopaths.

And you are ??? Paranoid? Schizophrenic??, delusional? on meds?? The Marines kick you out because you like boys? Were you a #BIRD?

You can question my military credentials it's a free world but I feel sorry for you as a supposed ex military whatever calling me a fascist? f you too and I doubt you ever did serve.

You in your ignorance do have a point and the military does have it's share of radical pyschopaths, but so does this forum so think about that.

I think that our ENEMIES are putting crap like this on these boards to turn us against our brethren! Don't for a second believe this and don't turn your back on our brothers and sisters in uniform!

Someone should of told him ROTC doesn't count as being in the military!

300+ million people, 50 states, 3.8 MILLION sq acres subdued by 60 thousand marines who have been serving and dying for this country for over 250 years. yeah, makes sense to me!

Originally posted by -NewSense-
I too grew up in a military family and have many friends/family members enlisted in the marines/air force/and navy. No army. But regardless, I know of atleast 5,000 in each branch ready to turn this around on "the bad guys" They will NOT kill American women and children or force Americans into modern day concentration camps. Trust me. They don't realize that the second they declare war on the American people, they're declaring war on themselves.

Could not of been stated better. Those of us in the military would gladly fire on ANY soldier/marine that would fire on American citizens for no reason. We took an Oath to defend the American people.Not fire on them.

I was a Marine in the late 1970's and on a questionaire I was asked if ordered to shoot at American citizens if ordered to do so would I. I do not remember what it was for but it was within my 1st 3 months of basic training. SO I guess they have been thinking about this for a long time. Sorry to say. However I did answer no.

actually the oath says we will defend against All enemies foreign AND domestic. Having said that though, I will never fire on another of my fellow citizens. Thats for the local cops to do.

But the understanding is, if you defend your Country, you also defend your countries population which is why I said what I said.

Those who keep insisting that the Marines would not fire on civilians must be thinking of a scenario where it's a bright sunny day on Main Street, and little Susie and Tommy are playing in the street. Suddenly, Marines jump out of a truck and, on order, shoot them down.

No, this is under conditions of Martial Law, due to an economic collapse, or famine, or whatever. Fires are burning in the streets as people riot. The local authorities have lost control due to all the civilians running around with guns. The military (not just the Marines) are called in to restore order. They are told these people are trying to destroy the American way of life. They are threatening the safety of the military personnel's family and friends. Rocks and bottles are hurled, someone shoots a gun, and all hell breaks loose.

A number of you mentioned all the arms owned by civilians and how they will resist an illegal order for Martial Law. Well, don't you think that will make you appear as an armed threat to the military?

I have Marine vets as friends (I'm an ex-squid) who are the best people you can meet. But, even sitting in a living room, watching TV, I've seen some of them rant, "America...love it or leave it", and how protestors make them so mad they'd like to take them out back for a good beating. They see these people not as Americans, but as threats to the American way. If they can feel this way about someone they see protesting on TV, how are they going to react when they are on the line as I described above, facing an angry crowd.

[edit on 23-12-2008 by CAP811]

Originally posted by CAP811
Those who keep insisting that the Marines would not fire on civilians must be thinking of a scenario where it's a bright sunny day on Main Street, and little Susie and Tommy are playing in the street. Suddenly, Marines jump out of a truck and, on order, shoot them down.

No, this is under conditions of Martial Law, due to an economic collapse, or famine, or whatever. Fires are burning in the streets as people riot. The local authorities have lost control due to all the civilians running around with guns. The military (not just the Marines) are called in to restore order. They are told these people are trying to destroy the American way of life. They are threatening the safety of the military personnel's family and friends. Rocks and bottles are hurled, someone shoots a gun, and all hell breaks loose.

A number of you mentioned all the arms owned by civilians and how they will resist an illegal order for Martial Law. Well, don't you think that will make you appear as an armed threat to the military?

I have Marine vets as friends (I'm an ex-squid) who are the best people you can meet. But, even sitting in a living room, watching TV, I've seen some of them rant, "America...love it or leave it", and how protestors make them so mad they'd like to take them out back for a good beating. They see these people not as Americans, but as threats to the American way. If they can feel this way about someone they see protesting on TV, how are they going to react when they are on the line as I described above, facing an angry crowd.

[edit on 23-12-2008 by CAP811]

In the world you present Armageddon is at hand, our world as we now live it will never be again. In this awful scenario we may all be shooting each other, only God knows.

When your ex marine friends say leave it they are probably referring to those people who complain and cry and moan about how bad our country is and people who don't appreciate the sacrifices made by our countrymen so that we can live the lives we do. These people who speak out and say our military is our enemy. These people who weaken our country from within. I say these people should go live in Mexico or somewhere they can appreciate, but I don't want to mow these people down and wouldn't even as a Marine unless they were armed and pointing weapons at me and in that event it's all over. Marines are for the most part Patriots we love this country, if you live in America and aren't an American at heart we have no use for you.

Under martial law (God forbid) if you are armed and present you will probably be shot regardless of who is enforcing it.

reply to post by interested-one


No, they're talking about people who are trying to make our country better. People who are speaking out against injustice - just as those people in my scenario would be doing.

I doubt armeggedon...we've had numerous instances in this country where people have rioted, lit cars on fire (hell, they do it if their team wins), and gone against authority, and none of those times have been the end of the world.

I agree about getting shot if armed during Martial Law, but you guys are the ones saying that it won't happen because you are armed. See, they declare Martial Law, you say no and arm yourself, now you are the one going against the authority. They will argue that if you loved America, you would see that Martial Law is the only option. If you disagree with them, then you are like the protestors I mentioned.

reply to post by CAP811


I never said I would fight martial law, if that day happens i'm sure that there will be a good reason for it.

reply to post by interested-one


Right, I'm the same way.

The idea of the original post is that that day comes, people like you and me say no. Meanwhile others, who feel they are defending the country, say yes. There will always be enough people who can be convinced that they are doing the right thing. History is full of examples.