Us Marine Drill Sergeant Boasts Of What They Will Do To Civilians Under Martial Law In The Usa/monta

reply to post by AmericanDaughter


never mind the army how about the police they dont have any problems fireing on people look at kitrena , over 400 people killed with tasers in canada and the us, look at jail guards they had set one group against the other and bet on the kill , also the ones that toture a person to death my opinion is that they will have no problems getting people to kill us citizens

reply to post by CAP811

No, this is under conditions of Martial Law, due to an economic collapse, or famine, or whatever.

That is exactly the type of thing that is being set-up. TPTB know the military will not fire on civilians without reason but they know the WILL fire on rioters (Kent State, Waco Texas) Go to nonais.org...

Read what is happening to farmers and the food supply. Remember the "Freedom to Farm" act wiped out the USA surplus food and the USDA has no intentions of rebuilding. Famine and food riots are very possible in the near future if the USDA, FDA and WTO continue on course. This is not some conspiracy theory this is an active topic of conversation among the farmers growing YOUR food.


A pandemic is another possibility.

The Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense have stated that there will be a choice given to Americans about whether they want to be vaccinated “in the first round in which the pandemic has not gotten away from us. In the second round, when it has gotten away from us [note language], there will be no choice and those who refuse vaccination will be quarantined indefinitely.”

The reason to bring up these topics is so people are aware of what is happening and do not react in the manner the tyrants want.

I hope I am just a conspiracy nut and none of what I see coming will happen, but I rather be prepared.

reply to post by crimvelvet


Exactly...the pandemic is a great example. Not only will those who refuse vaccination be quarantined indefinitely, but others will be blamed for it. Then, anyone who protests this unfair treatment, will be classed in with them as domestic terrorists (enemies) and, therefore, fair game. It much easier to shoot somebody if your convinced they are part of the problem, whether they are or not.

I agree that people need to be educated to all possibilities. Practically everyone I know is of the mind that this could never happen. When it does, they don't know how to react, which is exactly what TPTB want.

reply to post by CAP811

Practically everyone I know is of the mind that this could never happen. When it does, they don't know how to react, which is exactly what TPTB want.

It amazes me how you can show someone the facts and they can not come to a logical conclusion. They much rather bury their head in the sand than think a politico could be a lying, self-seving B@st@rd. Of course our education system has been twisted so Math, Science, Logic and even reading are no longer really taught.

This thread shows how people can not think outside the box. US Military would NEVER fire on US civilians. RIGHTttt Well I live with someone who lived through the Kent State "riots" and he tells a far different story thank you read about. I WALKED through the Nationally televised Purdue University "riot" It consisted of two ROTC types cutting the hair of a hippie. I never did figure out where they got the televised footage from.

reply to post by crimvelvet


Tell me about it. My primary job is in education; I teach or have taught at the high school and college levels, as well as at adult schools, for corporations, and when I was in the Navy. Whenever I try to introduce logic or rational thinking, all I get is, "Just tell how me to do the job...I don't have time to think."

My own family actually embraces their ignorance - admitting that they are unaware, with no intention of changing.

Like the old joke:

"Do you know that ingorance and apathy are the two biggest problems in society?"
"No, I didn't know that, but I don't really care!"

[edit on 23-12-2008 by CAP811]

^ True story. I was trying to help my younger relative and he couldn't think at all and just wanted to be instructed what to do.

Is it possible to add a BS function to ATS? So we could throw the BS flag on threads when needed? In over 20 years in the military, I have NEVER heard or seen anything like the garbage supposedly spouted by this "Marine"

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Is it possible to add a BS function to ATS? So we could throw the BS flag on threads when needed? In over 20 years in the military, I have NEVER heard or seen anything like the garbage supposedly spouted by this "Marine"

Indeed, I served in the Navy, Have good friends who served in the Marines and Army. This is just utter nonsense.

i had 3 company commanders. two of them were hard but fair but the third one(of course im not going to say their names)was just a total power hungry dick. i could see somebody like that doing something like this. most of the dudes on my company were cool, just average guys looking to do something something different with their lives, but there were a couple dudes who were just gung-ho and would have had sex with the c.c's if asked. i still have a couple buddies in various branches and i highly doubt they would carry out missions involving shooting fellow americans.

reply to post by unity1

What a load of garbage! It's a travesity that the modarators would allow something like this to be posted. Members of the military are a reflection of societey...they are all colors, races, creeds and social classes...it's truley offensive that something this poor would be posted and people would even contemplate it as real. Our brave military deserve better...much better!

Originally posted by unity1
I don't think it's fear mongering at all...
I think people should be well aware of what is going on and the evidence is overwhelming. I do hope that the majority of american soldiers will in fact revolt, in fact i expect that. I just hope there is not something in place already to prevent that from happening.
I've read alot about nato soldiers stepping in as well. It pays to be aware, we have been distracted or hiding our heads in the sand long enough!

What is this overwhelming evidence? All of the evidence I have seen would lead me to believe that in this scenario there will be either U.N. troops in our country or else other country's military such as Canada and Mexico and our troops will go to other countries to do the same thing. It makes much more sense that way, troops will be less likely to kill their own countrymen than that of another country.

There have already been hundreds of reported cases with UN and foreign troops here. There was a mayor that I read about a year or so ago in Texas that was quite upset that the UN was conducting training exercises in his city, not on a base, in his city.

That is the scenario we need to worry about, our own troops will not partake in murdering our own citizens and I say this as an ex-military person. As a matter of fact, this would in all likelihood split our military in two groups and the opposition to this would be by far the larger group and would have command structure just like the other as to be efficient.

Excuse please...but am I the only one who read through to the hook?

....But there are many more of us than you might think, dear! And by GOD'S GRACE, God is raising up MORE AND MORE committed and informed Christians, who see the NEW WORLD ORDER and the coming MARTIAL LAW TYRANNY for what it is in light of Bible Scriptures, and who are going to THEIR Commander in Chief, God Almighty, for WISDOM, and COUNSEL, and DIRECTION and STRATEGY TO WIN as well!....

Are YOU "WITH HIM" in this critical hour...are YOU with the ETERNALLY WINNING SIDE of JESUS CHRIST???

-Pam Schuffert reporting LIVE from the Pacific Northwest

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Out with the old: Fire & Brimstone

In with the new: Microwave Termination Facilities & NWO Boxcars

The armed forces are good at two things.

1. Following orders.
2. Killing.

If you think it could NEVER be turned against civilians you are VERY VERY naive.

I don't know if anyone posted the U.S. soldiers and officers oaths but here they are.



"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

If you notice, the Constitution is the very first thing sworn to. The men who wrote these oaths are true patriots, putting the supreme law of the land first. That means even the president can be seen as a threat.

What is sad though, soldiers and officers are quick to obey the president first and the constitution second these days. Unless orders are beyond a shadow of doubt unlawful it would be considered a coup. When the presidents ruling conflicts with the Constitution and the people are about 50/50 on it, the tie goes to the Constitution.

These oaths were written for the purpose that if anyone in power in this country was to break major laws (Obama and his homeland "terrorist" finding military) he would be seen as a direct threat to the people and removed from power.

Whats really sickening is the Patriot Act is illegal as it can be used against anyone for any reason for "suspicion" of being a terrorist. That means our freedom of speech is pretty much null and void as we can no longer really protest. As we have seen in the past few months....protesters are aggressively dealt with by police. Next they will be told to use live fire to prevent a "riot" which has yet to happen at a protest.

What it comes down to is this and I am going to borrow a line from Axl Rose "Freedom or chains, We stand together".

reply to post by MajesticJax


The only oath U.S armed forces take is the oath to protect the United States Constitution.

reply to post by unity1


In the setting of an American gulag almost anything could happen. A lot of people killed in the German death camps were German citizens. Their citizenship status did not protect them.

Since the stock markets seem to be struggling, I was wondering if someone like Cramer could give some investment tips along this line. Like tear gas manufacturers, companies that make manacles, run prison camps, etc.

reply to post by unity1


you should be ashamed of yourself for spreading bull# and lies.
It's one thing to go around screaming the sky is falling but quite another to paint our family and friends as murderers.

What I want to say to you I cannot because I'd get thrown off ATS, which in of itself may not be such a bad thing, but I'd rather not go down that road.

I know SEVERAL Marines, they are much better men than any civilian I know and there is not one IOTA of a chance that any of them would ever fire on fellow countrymen, to think they'd do so on women and children is just unfathomable.

You are a LIAR.

[edit on 24-12-2008 by gormly]

reply to post by MajesticJax

"Amen brother. I fear a police state and martial law takeover one day but not from out own troops."

That's your opinion.

As far as fact, Northcom, the Cheney created domestic military division (so stated by him on "Meet The Press", 12/01) allegedly for "security", has brought back the 3rd infantry division. 20,000 of them.

These are the ones Petreaus stated he used to go "house to house to kill insurgents" i.e. "The Surge", wanna bet no women were raped, no children killed? No innocent Iraqi civilians murdered in cold blood?

And you trust THESE troops to act "civilized" at home? Against Domestic resistance (to false flag justified "Martial law"?) These "Insurgents" are also known as Patriots, whether in US or Iraq.

My opinion?

You're kidding yourself.

The military DOES NOT BELONG IN THE USA, period, end of story.

And they will find out soon that Iraqi "resistance is NOTHING compared to PISSED OFF American "civilians".

some will be US troops
but let me tell you this
there ARE FOREIGN TROOPS on our SOIL RIGHT NOW!
thats how they will do it using
UN, Russian, Chinese troops
thats why those stickers are on the backside of highway signs
native marines wouldnt need that but foreign forces would