Us Marine Drill Sergeant Boasts Of What They Will Do To Civilians Under Martial Law In The Usa/monta

My best mate is a Marine, he read this, and laughted.


as am i

i am in the army and i can assure you that given the order to fire on civilians (especially women and children), not many of us would comply. the executive orders of late that i have become aware of are somewhat troubling to myself and others that have seen them as is the army regulation that deals with civilian inmate labor. all together it does paint a grim picture...however, i dont think any president of this country would be ballsy enough to try to turn the armed forces against their own nation...unless he wants to be overthrown very very quickly.

reply to post by ArcAngel


It's actually OOH-RAH. Thank you though, your hearts in the right place.

Glad to see this thread going in the right direction.

No amount of alteration will affect the USMC from its protective duty on behalf of the sleeping babies in America, and no Marine wants to explain why they killed someone innocent, once the heat of the moment wears off.

I do actually feel that the Marine corps will exist even in a future where war is outmoded in America. Loyalty, fealty and dedication to defending the innocent in a patriotic fashion, will never go out of style. The samurai faced the same essential question: In a world without war, what do we do with the warrior class? Yes, Marines could be hunted down by their own "government" as happened in fascist Japan, but killing a Marine with a rifle is harder than killing a Samurai.

Anyone under an American-styled or Global flag who kills unarmed civilians in America, even under "Martial Law" and suspension of writ, will be unmasked and held accountable for their actions when order is restored. This applies even if the shooters wear skimasks and hide their faces. God sees the heart.

It's all about perception on the part of the marines. They won't fire on what they believe are innocent civilians. On mobs of looters or maybe protesters who are 'anti-american' it's on.

This particular marine seems to know a lot about national plans that are way above his pay grade. I think he's just humoring some civilian.

If this is true, then they are no better than the Nazi's. But don't expect any of us to go down easy

My eldest son is currently serving in Afghanistan and my youngest is set to go over very shortly. I asked him about the possibility of using soldiers to contain, disarm or arrest civilians. He said it would never happen because of the way things are set up. That a soldier has the right to disobey if he believes an order is unjustified.
I do know that the erosion of the Posse comitatus act is paving the way for the administration, or the executive branch and homeland security, to use soldiers in a growing number of civilian situations. Answer me this? Why are u.s. soldiers being deployed on american soil?
Answer that question to my satisfaction and I will leave the subject alone. I doubt that you can.

reply to post by unity1


Here are a few problems with this.
Those marines have families and connections to communities that they would not endanger with an unprovoked, illegal assault on American citizens.

also,
there are approx. 320 million citizens, many of whom are armed versus approx. 1.5 million troops assuming every one was pulled out of every country in the world and sent to the US to try to enforce martial law. If the US citizens didn't want to accept it, there is NOTHING the military could do to stop them as they would be HORRIFICALLY out numbered.

Violating the Constitution by declaring martial law would be an HISTORICAL mistake for those who would attempt to do this.

I assure you there is already resistence movements in place with viable resources to fight back. The resistence movement exists in at least 30 states and is made up of many existing and former military men, gangbangers, and ordinary people who are trained. They sit idle but are ready to protect the constitution and the people of this country. The elite have no idea what kind of capibilities exist should they move on their own citizens. These organizations are in contact with eachother and preparing and sharing resources to secure our best chance at victory.

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I assure you there is already resistence movements in place with viable resources to fight back. The resistence movement exists in at least 30 states and is made up of many existing and former military men, gangbangers, and ordinary people who are trained. They sit idle but are ready to protect the constitution and the people of this country. The elite have no idea what kind of capibilities exist should they move on their own citizens. These organizations are in contact with eachother and preparing and sharing resources to secure our best chance at victory.

I sincerely believe that but i am worried about technologies that we are not even aware of being used against us.
I would hope that every citizen will do their part to work together with what is to come. That includes helping each other in times of need. Opening our homes to each other etc. There is strength in numbers.
Even when food is in short supply we will work best as a whole.

I hope that the military will not obey orders to kill Americans on American soil.

However, UN troops will have no trouble obeying these orders.
They seem to be already be doing this in other countries if what I read is true.

Blackwater 'soldiers' probably will not have a problem with these orders.

So the question is: Where are the UN troops right now?

Where are Blackwaters forces now?

What if India drops a nuclear bomb on DC on inauguration day?

lets be realistic here if the president or any general gave the order to attack american Civilens. they would proble be shot by the marines under their command. As a former Marine I have been out 8 years, I would have killed any officer that gave me a order like that I have talked to marines that are still in the corp and they have said the same thing. I think this is a fake quote.

Originally posted by Towgunner0352
lets be realistic here if the president or any general gave the order to attack american Civilens. they would proble be shot by the marines under their command. As a former Marine I have been out 8 years, I would have killed any officer that gave me a order like that I have talked to marines that are still in the corp and they have said the same thing. I think this is a fake quote.

Very good point. Anyone trying to give these orders would be considered a traitor and charged with High Treason and could/should/would be shot or at least jailed.

I personally believe the VAST MAJORITY of military personnel are intelligent and honorable people who have a very strong sense of what is right and wrong and they would simply not follow any illegal orders given.

No one has yet stated why American soldiers would not do what others have done before them. We do not know in what context Martial Law if invoked would take. Is it possible that civil war could break out again where you have the rich states fighting the pooer ones. That scenario to me is the worst one because it would entail all those problems mentioned here on this thread.

Soldiers on each side would kill umarmed civilians no question asked. But if we ae talikingtotal Martial Law what if foreign troops wee used. They would have no compunction about killing women and children. Their allegiance would be to those who pay them. Iraq is just a training ground for such forces where men and women already hardened to killing civilians. Thats the problem, it wont be the Marines as stated if such an event was going to take place the perps would anticipate such feeling amongst the Armed forces so therefore they would plan accordingly.

What better ruse than to start another war abroad, tie up most of your regular forces there and then stage false flag events in the US and request help for foreign forces. yes I know everyone will say we will fight them to the death but that will not prevent this event taking place would it. The perps know you have lots of guns but they have been slowly waring the people down, getting them used to living in fear, surrendering their rights etc.

If nothing else remeber Waco, American men, women and children shot, gassed and burnt to death all for nothing more than being different. Where was the call to arms then, where were al those gun owners who state they would fight the Governmnet if they did these things. Well they have been doing them, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma, 9/11 etc. on top of that Patriot 1/2, military commisions act and a raft of executive orders all aimed at the freedoms and liberty of the people. Thus far the resposne from the people has been...........nothing.

wow this went from one conspiracy web site to another. im a marine and i was never trained like that. this is a FAKE story and you can tell right from the start "MARINE DRILL SERGEANT", drill instructor. Most DI's are all POGS so they dont know anything about anything that goes on with the ground side. If i had the name of this fictitious marine i would call his command and chew has a$$ for saying the things he did.

wow this went from one conspiracy web site to another. im a marine and i was never trained like that. this is a FAKE story and you can tell right from the start "MARINE DRILL SERGEANT", drill instructor. Most DI's are all POGS so they dont know anything about anything that goes on with the ground side. If i had the name of this fictitious marine i would call his command and chew has a$$ for saying the things he did.

Never happen.

Like many other posters have said anyone giving that order would be arrested by their own troops.

Not to mention if an order was given like that martial law would act in reverse so to speak arresting every person associated with that order.

If foreign military was used they would be shot and killed by our own military. As it would then be considered a war on US soil and no American soldier is going to stand idly by while a group of internationals goes around mass murdering civilians.

Not to mention no "Drill Sargent" would even be in the know if this was a real threat. Why would he have a need to know? If one did say this he was screwing the whom ever interviewed him thinking it was funny and pry bragging to his buddies about what an idiot the guy was for believing him.

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very nice words but directioning our toughts is what they do most and already have the means to do it artificially; the actual "enemy" is defined only by the point of view, "information is power".

sorry for my english i'm from an spanish spoken country.

happy "saturnalias".

reply to post by magicmushroom


Imagine if foreign forces landed on American soil....
How many forces could actually make it to the United States before being wiped out by the Navy, Airforce, etc...

Now lets say a few hundred thousand SOMEHOW made it to our shores.... They would be HORRIFICALLY outnumbered by regular citizens, police, volunteers, etc... They would be wiped out in days.

I for one would take up arms against any foreign invader as I believe most Americans would.

reply to post by unity1

I sincerely believe that but i am worried about technologies that we are not even aware of being used against us. I would hope that every citizen will do their part to work together with what is to come. That includes helping each other in times of need. Opening our homes to each other etc. There is strength in numbers. Even when food is in short supply we will work best as a whole.

The technology is being implemented as we speak. It is called famine. Martial law will be used to control a starving population. That is the why of the Patriot Act and the demise of Posse Comitatus I wrote this up a while back and it details what is taking place. It represents a years worth of research.

World War three is already being fought in silence in the US and other parts of the world.

Who is the enemy?
No, I am not talking about the war in Iraq, I am talking about a much more subtle and dangerous war. In this war the battle lines are drawn by giant corporations, backed by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the World Bank, and trade treaties, aggressively pursuing a silent war against billions of people around the globe. At stake is the very survival of over 1.5 billion small and marginal farmers, and the prize is your money and your freedom. In 1997, ten corporations controlled almost every aspect of the world's food chain. With the formation of the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 1995, global and national politics here and abroad are now driven by corporate financial priorities. Corporations set the agenda for the the European Union (EU), the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), the WTO and the USA. The objective is the complete control of the food supply, the surefire weapon used by armies and dictators throughout history. If the giant corporations gain complete control of your food, it will be much worse than OPEC's control of world oil.

In Malawi 1,500 people perished from famine caused by the World Bank's interference in government policies. A member of the World Bank executive board described this as “unprecedented thoroughgoing interventionism.” Deborah Bryceson of Oxford calls it “de-peasantization”–the phasing out of traditional family farms to make fertile farmland available for intensive capital accumulation using factory farming.

In a vertically integrated food system, giant corporations gain control of the country's food system by controlling food from seed to shelf. This system is being extended around the world. But as long as an individual can buy land, raise livestock and veggies and then sell at a local farmers market, the Ag giants do not have the complete monopoly they want. So multinational corporations are making the move to gain that complete control. The weapons they use are international treaties, biological patents, dumping of subsidized food and coerced government regulations. The IMF and the World Bank blackmail debt-ridden governments into eliminating high tariffs and systematically dismantling government support of family farming, thereby sacrificing national food self-sufficiency. With the US debt at $9.2 Trillion much of it owed to foreign interests, the US, contrary to popular belief, is not immune to financial blackmail. The new regulations imposed upon governments, originate with the WTO's AoA, and involve traceability, “Good Farming Practices”, depopulation and “disease free status”. These regulations are designed to complete the demise of privately owned farms. Make no mistake, these regulations actually DECREASE the safety of the food supply while ensuring complete corporate control. How? By removing quarantine and disease testing as “Trade Barriers” and substituting “traceability” and ISO “Good Farming Practices”

The USDA and the FDA are trying to sell these regulations to consumers as necessary “Food Safety” regs. But even American Quality Professionals will not defend ISO. An Article "Eliminate ISO 9000?," in Quality Magazine received the heaviest reader response in some time but contained no ardent rebuttals in defense of ISO 9000! Scott Dalgleish, editor of ASQ magazine for five years, contends that ISO 9000 misdirects resources to paperwork that does almost nothing. Traceability allows corporations to shift blame from their poor manufacturing practices to the innocent farmer. In Wisconsin a state-blessed monopoly requires farmers to sign contracts shifting all liability to the farmer leaving the corporation free from the threat of lawsuits.

Despite the negative impact of WTO regulations on food safety and despite Congressional defeat of bills to make WTO regulations law, the USDA and FDA are intent on forcing implementation. The European Union has already completed implementation, and as a result, farming in the UK is all but dead.

North Farm is the last working dairy farm left for miles. Mr Lawton said: "... all my neighbours have given up. It's become incredibly bureaucratic and it's completely over-powered by bureaucrats - there must be two civil servants in Defra (Department for the Environment and Rural Affairs) for every farmer in the countryside.". ...The sheer amount of paperwork and restrictions on what farmers can do is a problem .www.thisisswindon.co.uk...

Is the extermination of family farms planned or just bureaucratic bumbling? This question was answered during discussion of the agricultural conditions for entry by Poland into the EU. The EU chair lady bluntly stated the EU plans to oust a million Polish farmers from their land. Another EU member proudly announced Portugal had already removed 60% of their farmers. After traditional farmers are regulated out of business, corporations move in buying land cheaply and instituting environmentally devastating monoculture farming. The EU has doubled the intake of herbicides, multiplied the use of fungicides by six times and increased the area sprayed with pesticides by almost a hundred per cent in the past two decades. All very profitable for the Ag chemical giants like Dow and Monsanto.


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