Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

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so armenia, a former russian satelitte is mobilizing, Ukraine has stated that it supports Georgia. What is going on with the reset of Eastern Europe? I know a U.S. missile frigate just docked in estonia. Is it possible this could blow up all of Eastern Europe? Would nato not join in just to protect these seedling democracies? I heard Azerbajan was mobilizing as well. Is there any truth to possible mobilization of multiple countries to join in on this?

Camain

Originally posted by camain
so armenia, a former russian satelitte is mobilizing, Ukraine has stated that it supports Georgia. What is going on with the reset of Eastern Europe? I know a U.S. missile frigate just docked in estonia. Is it possible this could blow up all of Eastern Europe? Would nato not join in just to protect these seedling democracies? I heard Azerbajan was mobilizing as well. Is there any truth to possible mobilization of multiple countries to join in on this?

Camain

Are there any links you can provide to support this? Very interesting.

Originally posted by camain
so armenia, a former russian satelitte is mobilizing, Ukraine has stated that it supports Georgia. What is going on with the reset of Eastern Europe? I know a U.S. missile frigate just docked in estonia. Is it possible this could blow up all of Eastern Europe? Would nato not join in just to protect these seedling democracies? I heard Azerbajan was mobilizing as well. Is there any truth to possible mobilization of multiple countries to join in on this?

Camain

Oh Great!! If something happens that ticks off one nation, whats to stop Russia destroying them? I have to go and meet my girlfriend now, little does she know we're in for a quiet night of "Who bombed who!?" Please keep me uptodate as I shall be back on once I return.

Originally posted by Nerevar The 'worst' that will happen is S Ossetia will be ceded to Russia. Tut tut Georgia, what were you thinking.

Surely the worst that will happen is many more civilian lives are lost before that happens. I never see a problem with TALKING if it means trying to stop killing, do you? How many times do posters on ATS ask "Why should the people suffer for what the leaders do?". So why should they suffer here?

the USS Elrod is an FFG-7 or Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate; i will happily say this is a social call to estonia, and in the event of anything being launched at an OHP it would be sunk - bugger all air defence (1x CIWS) as the SM-1MR was removed - these have tails for sub hunting work.

nice ships though

reply to post by Muppetus Galacticus


Apologies, by worst i meant in terms of Political ramifications. Of course civilian casualties are undesirable, however i do not see the 'legality' of a EU / US / NATO delegation in this situation. Surely that would just make Russia more determined to press their advantage while they can.

If the best thing that comes out of these discussions is a halt to the bombing of urban areas then that is enough for me. For me, that should be the goal of the delegation, not dictating to Russia and Georgia from a higher plane.

can't find the original links, I've been all over the blogs this morning. read it somewhere, not sure if its true or not in regards to armenia and azerbajan. I know the other indepent province in georgia has opened a second front, looking to kick georgian troops out. I read that in another blog, which seems to make sense. Additionally, Russia has been bombing outside of S.O. and in georgian territory. Georgia has declared war and is mobilizing reserves. I'm curious how that is going. Are the reserves coming forward, or is this a war they don't want to fight?

Any links pertainent to Eastern Europe would greatly be appreciated. I would like to know what these former satelittes are doing, If the rest of E. Europe goes to war, I have no doubt the west will follow.

Camain

Originally posted by Nerevar
If the best thing that comes out of these discussions is a halt to the bombing of urban areas then that is enough for me. For me, that should be the goal of the delegation, not dictating to Russia and Georgia from a higher plane.

I fully agree with this and I'm sure the majority of people wish to see it happen as soon as possible

www.reuters.com... ---- georgia thinking about pulling out of olympics.

www.reuters.com... ---

Abkhazia, another pro-Russian enclave in Georgia, said its forces had begun an operation to drive out Georgian forces, possibly opening a second front against Tbilisi

above is the link about the second front being opened.

In other news:

english.aljazeera.net...

same blah blah.


www.msnbc.msn.com...

nothing new hear.

im confused abit now i know a few Russian fighters have been hot down, but on SKY news about 40 mins ago they said also some Long range bombers had been shot down too?

what would those long range bomber be carrying troops or bombs im curious, and what the hell shot them down as i would reckon they be quite a way from the front lines?

Georgia just showed a picture of the dead pilot that they shot down , No comments were made by Russia yet .
Just seen it on TV.

reply to post by Russian Boy


parading bodies on combants for propaganda purposes in front of the TV is kinda outlawed by the geneva conventions...


ooops Georgia


edit: OUCH Georgia executed the pilot , thats not going to sit well at all.

[edit on 9/8/08 by Harlequin]

good link on news.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by Russian Boy

 

parading bodies on combants for propaganda purposes in front of the TV is kinda outlawed by the geneva conventions...
ooops Georgia

Well they violated a lot of conventions already , so that didnt stop them to show grusom pictures of the dead pilot and blood all over it . thing like that make me very angry

[edit on 9-8-2008 by Russian Boy]

Originally posted by camain
good link on news.

www.youtube.com...

f me - the georgians have flattened the place

Here is the link showing the dead pilotyoutube link just found it

Russian citizens in Georgia being detained and removed to a `secure holding area` - breaking on russia today news

Rare, so might be relivant. I just passed Glasgow/Prestwick Airport in west Scotland. 2 grey USAF planes (Nimrods I think, with the mushroom radar on top) took off within a five minute period. the last time i saw anything like this it was in the run up to both gulf wars.

please post the links. sorry for the one line.