Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Merkel meets with Medvedev
Russian President Medvedev and German Chancellor Merkel meet at the Black Sea resort of Sochi.

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Merkel to criticize Russia's actions according to source in meeting with Russian President Medvedev.

"In the talks, the chancellor will express unambiguous criticism of the Russians' actions and will criticise the response to the Georgian actions in South Ossetia as disproportionate," the source said.

Germany is Russia's biggest trading partner and Moscow generally pays close attention to Berlin's views, regarding it as one of its more reliable European partners.

The Kremlin gave a milder reading of the talks.

"The sides intend to review, once again, the situation and prospects for its settlement on the basis of six agreed principles," a Kremlin source told Reuters.

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The Russian MoD says that Serbia is one of the countries that helped Georgia militarily prior to the Ossetian conflict.

If the allegations are true, this is VERY VERY interesting.

Serbia? The ally of Russia? Stabbing them in the back? Interesting. The only way this happened is corruption... or after Russia did ``nothing`` to stop Kosovo independance, Serbia wanted a little revenge... or third hypothesis, Serbia just sold Georgia weapons because they wanted to make money.

So revenge, greediness, corruption or a coincidence. Very interesting.

Wait, because Poland wants DEFENSE missiles it pushes Russia to the brink of war? Could you elaborate on that?

It's not really ``defense``. It's offensive/defensive. The Russians fear that a missile shield would stop their second strike capabilities in case of a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Russia by NATO. With the doctrine and the boldness of the neo-cons, the Russians take every precautions...after all people on power trips sometimes do some things REALLY REALLY stupid...like attacking Russia and thinking you can win a nuclear war.

If Russia loses Germany and Italy as a kind of allies, the situation will deteriorate REALLY FAST.

The Bush speech is really funny.

[edit on 15-8-2008 by Vitchilo]

Originally posted by ArMaP

That is another strange thing about this situation, it looks like some things are in the hands of amateurs.

This is the most true statement in the thread thus far as it pertains to the danger of this conflict. It looks like a large number of "Irregulars" are becoming indistinguishable from the offical military of each side. These militia lack the discipline of professional soldiers. The allow their grudges rather than orders to direct the combat.

They are a very volatile and unpredictable element in a region where representatives (and militaries) of other Countries are starting to arrive.

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe

Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
Russia: Poland risks attack because of US missiles

Ah Jeeze.... The Russians are pissed now. What were the US and Poland thinking, announcing this during the height of this conflict?

Seems like they want to push the Russians right to the brink of a nuclear war.

Russia will NOT i repeat will NOT attack polland .. That is.. Unless they want total war with nato.. I do not think putin is that stupid.

And a comment about that second video where the reporters in the car were getting shot at.. Damn that was intense and they were lucky as hell only 1 guy was barely wounded.. Damn lucky

"The Russians fear that a missile shield would stop their second strike capabilities in case of a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Russia by NATO."

Something that just would never happen... The US would NEVER do a Nuclear first trike on russia and the idea it self is silly..





[edit on 15-8-2008 by wolfmanjack]

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Did George Bush actually say anything new there? That could have been a re-broadcast of his last speech on the matter. We heard this speech already, when it had no effect.

reply to post by Mainer


Actualy he said "G7" implying that there is no G8 anymore... As far as I am aware it's still G8

Bush accuses Russia of "bullying" in Georgia

WASHINGTON, Aug 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush on Friday again expressed his support for Georgia and accused Russia of "bullying" and damaging its international standing by sending its military into Georgia.

Key points from Russian General Staff briefing

MOSCOW, Aug 15 (Reuters) - Colonel-General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy head of Russia's General Staff, on Friday held his daily briefing on the Russian army's actions in Georgia.

(Source: AlertNet)

Where is the American anti-war crowd here? I want to hear, "Putin Lied- People Died!" I want human shields! I want sheehan camped out at Putins summer retreat! I want to hear, "NO WAR FOR OIL!"

Unless they aren't anti-war after all. Maybe I've been right the entire time in my belief that they are only anti-American...

Something that just would never happen... The US would NEVER do a Nuclear first trike on russia and the idea it self is silly..

You think so? Would you have tought that they would lie to invade Iraq? Or do 9/11? Or hundreds of others crimes they've committed?

The russians take no chances. To avoid war, you need a good deterrent and NATO is trying to neutralize it... I wonder why... and the Russians too.

Ukranian Presidential Secretariat gives answer to Moscow

The statements of the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov concerning the issues of the Russian Black Sea Fleet temporary stay in Ukraine look unfriendly and obviously show a blatant disrespect to Ukraine, the press-service of the Ukrainian Presidential Secretariat informs referring to the statement of Secretariat’s foreign policy department chief Ihor Dolhov. “Orders of the President of Ukraine must not be subject to interpreting or commenting by official representatives of the other side”, he stressed.

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Breaking:

Medvedev: Russia ready to respond in the same way if soldiers and peacekeepers are attacked again.

- Sky TV (Reuters)

APNewsAlert
17 minutes ago

MOSCOW (AP) — Russia's president says Georgia's breakaway regions "unlikely to live together with Georgia."

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ru.youtube.com...
FoxNews flop

RUSSIA'S MEDVEDEV SAYS POLISH MISSILE SHIELD DEAL IS AIMED AT RUSSIAN FEDERATION

(AlertNet)

Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-

Actualy he said "G7" implying that there is no G8 anymore... As far as I am aware it's still G8

I would love to have heard that sort of subtlety in a Presidential speech and assumed it was overt negotiation rather than a simple error on the speaker's part.

Here is a little report that is 3 years old

Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia:
Political Developments and
Implications for U.S. Interests
www.globalsecurity.org...=http://www.globalsecurity.org/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/webinator/search/pdfhi.txt?que ry=georgia&pr=default&prox=page&rorder=500&rprox=500&rdfreq=500&rwfreq=500&rlead=500&rdepth=0&sufs=0&order=r&cq=&id=4866ac7913

Made by some US government agency.. Might be interesting reading to see what some people in the administration view as what our interests are.

BBC Reporter in Georgia describes Russian military pressence in Poti port:

We saw a column of Russian military vehicles move into Georgia's main port of Poti and seal off the entrance to the military part of the complex.

Troop transporters, armoured personnel carriers and military speedboats are now lined up inside.

Russian helicopters, including a gunship, also flew to the Black Sea port, with one of the aircraft landing briefly.

The Russians stopped us filming and refused to say what they were doing or how long they would stay. This is at least the third time the Russian army has moved into the port.

But we know from what we've seen that they're destroying Georgian military hardware.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Note: wolfman, can you type [*url=hyperlink.html] (without the * and with "hyperlink.html" being your pasted link) and then the word Source, and then finally [*/url] (again without the *) to repair your link above and to reformat the page? It's stretching the thread. Thanks for posting it though!


[edit on 8/15/2008 by AceWombat04]

Latvia calls for international peacekeepers in Georgia

Latvia's President Valdis Zatlers called Friday for international peacekeepers in Georgia, as he argued that the West must rethink its ties with Moscow.

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US lawmakers urge IOC to move '14 games from Russia

WASHINGTON, Aug 15 (Reuters) - The U.S. Congress could consider legislation next month aimed at prodding Olympic organizers to strip Russia from hosting the 2014 winter games, in a move to punish Moscow for its military activity in Georgia, sponsors of the measure said.

(AlertNet)