Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

reply to post by mythatsabigprobe


That is another strange thing about this situation, it looks like some things are in the hands of amateurs.

reply to post by mythatsabigprobe


I think it's more a reply to the accusations that Georgia used Uragan RL's on Tchinvalli rather than calling for a ban on clusterbombs.

Russia: Poland risks attack because of US missiles

A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a U.S. missile defense battery exposes ex-communist nation to attack, possibly by nuclear weapons, the Interfax news agency reported.

The statement by Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn is the strongest threat that Russia has issued against the plans to put missile defense elements in former Soviet satellite nations.

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I saw the video earlier of the reporter shot in the arm, but here is another video (along with the first) showing reporters coming under fire while driving. One was apprently struck in the head.

www.cnn.com...

They begin screaming, "Press!" repeatedly in an attempt to identify themselves to their attackers.

You guys have been on top of this from the start, maybe you can help me with something? I'm looking for press reports or any video of the Georgia PM on August 7/8, following the raid into S. Ossetia. I want to review what his stance was before the Russians responded.

Does anybody have that stuff recorded?

Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
Russia: Poland risks attack because of US missiles

Ah Jeeze.... The Russians are pissed now. What were the US and Poland thinking, announcing this during the height of this conflict?

Seems like they want to push the Russians right to the brink of a nuclear war.

That may have been more a statement of doctrine than a direct threat meant to imply the current crisis. i.e. it may have been akin to Bush saying that the U.S. reserves the right to carry out preemptive strikes, than him saying that the U.S. will or may soon attack Iran; stating a doctrine, not making a threat.

The way I interpreted it - in my overoptimistic and admittedly too hopeful at times thinking - was to mean that should a war ever break out with the U.S. in the future, the pressence of those missile systems in Poland makes it a legitimate target of strikes (in Russia's view,) including nuclear strikes; not that their pressence makes Russia consider attacking them now, in the context of this current crisis.

That's only a hypothesis though. Let's hope it's the case, at least. Any serious consideration on Russia's part of attacking Poland just because our missiles will be there would be horrible to contemplate.

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I did a search, try the following link

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It's the Civil's newsarchive, I'm sure you can find what you're looking for there.

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Awesome. Thanks Rugged Shark!

Russian MoD: Serbia sold Georgia arms

The Russian MoD says that Serbia is one of the countries that helped Georgia militarily prior to the Ossetian conflict.

Besides Serbia, the list of alleged helpers to Georgia before the South Ossetian crisis broke out were the U.S., the UK, France, Greece, Turkey, Israel, Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine and others, reports the BBC.

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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
You guys have been on top of this from the start, maybe you can help me with something? I'm looking for press reports or any video of the Georgia PM on August 7/8, following the raid into S. Ossetia. I want to review what his stance was before the Russians responded.

Does anybody have that stuff recorded?

Heres a timeline apparently from the Georgian govt.

Estonian volunteers arrived in Georgia. A fifty-person delegation of volunteers visited the Ministry of Defence of Georgia as well. They will assist injured people and provide for humanitarian aid. The information spread via media about arriving of Estonian military units does not correspond to the facts. Volunteers arrived to perform only humanitarian mission duties.
Posted by Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia at 3:28 PM

georgiamfa.blogspot.com...

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Seems like they want to push the Russians right to the brink of a nuclear war.

Wait, because Poland wants DEFENSE missiles it pushes Russia to the brink of war? Could you elaborate on that?

A few more updates:

Bush to deliver statement on Georgia - White House

WASHINGTON, Aug 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush will deliver a statement on Georgia at 8:15 a.m. (1215 GMT), the White House said.

A White House official gave no details on the content of Bush's statement, which comes as Secretary of State Condoleezzaa Rice arrived in Tbilisi as part of a diplomatic effort aimed at easing tensions between Georgia and Russia.

Those tensions flared after Russia last week sent troops into Georgia.

Russian forces detain Reuters reporter in Georgia

TBILISI, Aug 15 (Reuters) - Russian forces in western Georgia on Friday briefly detained a freelance television reporter working for Reuters, the news organisation said.

Reuters said Lasha Berulava, a Georgian national, had been travelling to the Black Sea port of Poti to investigate reports of Russian troop movements in the area.

Berulava, who has worked for Reuters since the late 1990s, alerted the company's Tbilisi bureau by text message that he was being held by Russian forces.

He telephoned about two hours later to advise that he had been released.

(Source: AlertNet)

Bush to make another statement today regarding the situation in Georgia

WASHINGTON, Aug 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush will deliver a statement on Georgia at 8:15 a.m. (1215 GMT), the White House said.

A White House official gave no details on the content of Bush's statement, which comes as Secretary of State Condoleezzaa Rice arrived in Tbilisi as part of a diplomatic effort aimed at easing tensions between Georgia and Russia.

www.alertnet.org...

That's in about ten minutes by my (possibly wrong) reckoning.

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Rice meets with Georgian President
Secretary of State Rice meets with Georgia President Mikheil Saakashvili in Tbilisi. Remarks expected.

live video link

Originally posted by AceWombat04
Bush to make another statement today regarding the situation in Georgia

WASHINGTON, Aug 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush will deliver a statement on Georgia at 8:15 a.m. (1215 GMT), the White House said.

A White House official gave no details on the content of Bush's statement, which comes as Secretary of State Condoleezzaa Rice arrived in Tbilisi as part of a diplomatic effort aimed at easing tensions between Georgia and Russia.

www.alertnet.org...

That's in about ten minutes by my (possibly wrong) reckoning.

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I got the boob tube on now and the report is correct.Bush to make announcement soon.

Medvedev Backs Independence Bids

President Dmitry Medvedev signaled Thursday that he would support independence bids by Georgia's separatist provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, as Russian troops roamed in Georgia proper, prompting outcries that Moscow was violating a truce reached with Tbilisi this week

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Thanks Justice11. Unfortunately that timeline begins on August 8 and the first entry seems to be blaming the Russians for bombing Tskhinvali.

August 8, 2008

As a result of massive bombing of Tskhinvali by Russian air force and artillery on August 8, 2008 the town was almost completely destroyed.

Bush live on CNN (paraphrased and typed as I listened. I missed a lot.)

Moscow must honor commitment to withdraw forces from Georgia.

Georgia has become a courageous democracy. Georgia has sent troops to Afghanistan and Iraq to help others. It has sought to join the free institutions of the west.

The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside.

Europe has moved beyond the world wars and the cold war.

Russia has tended to view the expansion of freedom and democracy as a threat to its interests. The opposite is true.

Free and prosperous societies on Russia's borders will advance its interests.

The cold war is over. The days of satellite states and spheres of influence are behind us. A contentious relationship with Russia is not in America's interest, and a contentious relationship with the United States is not in Russia's interests.

Only Russia can decide whether it will now put itself back on the path of responsible nations.

To begin restoring its place in the world, Russia must respect the freedom of its neighbors.


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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
reply to post by Justice11

 

Thanks Justice11. Unfortunately that timeline begins on August 8 and the first entry seems to be blaming the Russians for bombing Tskhinvali.

August 8, 2008

As a result of massive bombing of Tskhinvali by Russian air force and artillery on August 8, 2008 the town was almost completely destroyed.

I had a link that stated Tskhinvali was actually a military base with Georgian towns surrounding it.Ill see if i can find it again.