Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

The Georgian Military Headquarters has just made an announcement that there is no invasion from any Russian troops. It was on Russian TV, but clearly in Georgia.

A Georgian army official said that someone is spreading disinformation on a major scale.



-Take this for what it is worth - it is on Russian TV after all and could be as false as everything else.

Nothing in any Russian news about any large scale movement by Russian troops. However there are dozens of Russian reporters in S. Ossetia, and they cannot miss an "invasion force" on the move.

[edit on 13-8-2008 by maloy]

reply to post by -Rugged Shark-


Yes that's a good point forgot about that

Mixed messages as to what's happening continue

Witnesses had earlier said a column of Russian tanks were moving from Gori towards Tbilisi, amid reports killing and looting was taking place.

"A convoy of Russian tanks left Gori, but is not heading to Tbilisi," Eka Zguladze said.

"I'd like to calm everybody down. The Russian military is not advancing towards the capital."

She did not however say what the Russian troops were doing.

Russia had denied its troops were making their way to Tbilisi.

However, Anatoly Nagovitsyn, the Russian military's deputy chief of staff, had also categorically denied that there were any tanks on the streets of Gori.

Sky News

Great Link for some background info on the timeline for this war.

The Mystery Behind the Georgian Invasion

Military.com

[edit on 13-8-2008 by MREALE]

Yes, that's just been reported the AFP as well.

Yushchenko has signed a decree.

Could you have a link? Do you know what those new restrictions are and if it does escalates things?

Originally posted by titorite

Originally posted by maloy
BREAKING NEWS FROM RUSSIA:

Russian sources say that Saakashvilli and Western reporters are confusing evacuating Georgian troops with Russian troops. Georgian military is denouncing Saakashvilli's statements that Russian armor is moving towards Tbilisi according to Interfax. The Georgian tanks and armor is currently still on the road from Gori.

lenta.ru...

[edit on 13-8-2008 by maloy]

My Russian friend, I think you have served your nation well. But now your comrads ARE in Gori. And they seem to of taken over the nation in every way you described they wouldn't.

Unfortunitly your red is shining a little to brightly.

Your updates are no longer worth paying attention too.

Edit:

And now I see RussianBoy coming to the defence of Maloy..


In the last few days I have seen more than a few russians defend Russia on this site...

But I have not seen one georgian. Kinda begins to make me suspect the Russians here are less than impartial. I mean we can get all kinds of russian views about this conflict but no Georgians? That is odd. Admittedly I have had to sleep so I have missed some pages so if we got a georgian on this board giving us daily updates as to the georgians side of the story than please let me know.

[edit on 10/18/2007 by titorite]

IMO probably the most accurate post we've seen on this thread in quite some time. What some would call relayers of "accurate" information, quite a few others would see as russian sycophants dreaming of what they mistakenly think are the glory days of the old soviet empire. People that probably think that stalin was practically the second coming of Jesus instead of the monstrous butcher he really was.

Well, this is officially out of control. We tried a cease fire and it backfired. I don't think there is anything we can do now. i really hope we don't get involved in this. I feel like this is a replay of WW2.. Bad economy, new war, then comes draft.. That will be horrible if they send all of our men over seas again like they did in the last world war. My grandfather told me that when they started the draft for WW2 that the army had trucks going around all the towns in America and young guys were just jumping on the back of them and that was it, they were off to war.... I hope everything works out..

Great post by the way

Kiev, Ukraine. Ukranian president Ushenko signed a decree that Russian Black Sea navy stationed at Russian naval base Sevastopol Cremea (Ukranian teritory) either ships or aircaft when crossing the Ukranian border have to present a detailed document 72 hours prior, including the purpose and list of euipment on board. Only upn a permission by Ukranina authorities and customs the air or naval assets may conduct their journey.

reply to post by Vitchilo


I'm just reading it directly off my TV screen right now - AFP: Ukraine President Yuschenko signs decree imposing restrictions on Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

I'll try and find a link.

[edit on 13-8-2008 by chips]

[edit on 13-8-2008 by chips]

reply to post by -Rugged Shark-


Wow. It would appear that Ukraine has backed up its warning a couple of days ago that it might do this with actions. Is there a link? (I only ask because I'm trying to compile a news article timeline of all this.) Thanks.

[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

Ukraine cancels missile warning agreement with Russia

Ukraine's President Viktor Yushchenko has terminated the agreement on missile warning and space monitoring systems with Russia. The treaty dated back to July 6, 1992. The termination came at Russia's request, as the country is building radar stations on its own territory, which would replace missile warning systems in the CIS.

source

Originally posted by centurion1211
People that probably think that stalin was practically the second coming of Jesus instead of the monstrous butcher he really was.

Just a small comment, Stalin was Georgian, born in Gori.

reply to post by -Rugged Shark-


What does Russia have to worry? Ukraine is next

Russian convoy heads into Georgia, violating truce

This totaly sucks.

They have confirmed that Russia is heading to the capital.

reply to post by AceWombat04


No sorry, I have no link yet. I just copied the info from another forum.

- double post, pls ignore or delete -

[edit on 13-8-2008 by -Rugged Shark-]

Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
Kiev, Ukraine. Ukranian president Ushenko signed a decree that Russian Black Sea navy stationed at Russian naval base Sevastopol Cremea (Ukranian teritory) either ships or aircaft when crossing the Ukranian border have to present a detailed document 72 hours prior, including the purpose and list of euipment on board. Only upn a permission by Ukranina authorities and customs the air or naval assets may conduct their journey.

The Ukrainias are acting like the Russian Black Sea Fleet is there only for the parade days . Wake up Ukraine it is a Naval Force and it is there to serve its country if needed .

Originally posted by AceWombat04
Further details, according to CNN's Matthew Chance, on the Russian convoy inside Georgian territory:

Ultimately, regardless of the reasons, .................... but this is still a violation of the agreement and could have very serious international (though almost certainly not military in my opinion) consequences.

[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

Did he put on a stern sombre face when he said that ?. They always do , Condoleezard rice can do it best thou . Tell them to keep it up, it's quite funny )

reply to post by mrsdudara


There's no confirmation that they're heading to the capital, actually. The situation is fluid and very confusing.

Essentially, Russian forces appear to have entered Gori along with irregular South Ossetian militia. Russia denied this. However once witnesses said that Russian forces had left from Gori and were headed toward the capital, Russia confirmed that this was true, but said that they were simply there to demilitarize the area by dismantling a weapons depot they had discovered. They turned off the main road to the capital, and instead headed for an abandoned military base (ostensibliy to do so.) However, Russia had already said that they weren't in Gori, and then subsequently confirmed that they had been. So who knows?

The number of forces reported seems small to take the capital, but there could be under-reporting, or they could be planning to secure staging areas to bring in more troops for that very purpose. We have no idea what's going on.



[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

reply to post by centurion1211


Thanks for taking time to denounce me posting news from the Russian side.

Your contribution to this thread on the other hand was undeniably of great importance on the other hand.

Keep up the great work.