Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

reply to post by hardcoremusiclover


Its happening right now and its the second meeting look at russin today channel

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
why have they removed Georgia + surrounding areas from google maps? o-O same goes for the mobile version...

I don't get it, what is the point?

Russia probably said so to Google lol

Originally posted by Rentor

Originally posted by hardcoremusiclover
In light of having 500 points just removed from "off topic posts"

Im still going to post.

Does anyone think it is possible that this could have been just major propaganda since almost everyone around the world is watching the olympics? I think its a fair assumption that both sides are just using this for attension.

Also does anyone have the latest death toll?

And When is the United Nations meeting going to happen?

Already happen and nothing came from it besides hearing how Russians have bomber in route

So I suppose now we just sit and wait and see how many innocent people can get killed over a countrys greed and power craving. Maybe after a couple thousand civilians die then they will realize, "hey mabye we should not slaughter everyone?"

Originally posted by Rentor

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
why have they removed Georgia + surrounding areas from google maps? o-O same goes for the mobile version...

I don't get it, what is the point?

Russia probably said so to Google lol

haha!! Maybe Google have forseen that Georgia wont be with us for much longer and decided to waste no time in removing them from it.

Well Georgia said stop attack but Russia Refused since death over 1,000 Russian Citizens from SQ

reply to post by hardcoremusiclover


Cheer up hardcoremusiclover

With regards to the Google thing, yes thats rather odd and probably represents someone at Google HQ thinking that they are in someway preventing terrorism or some such rubbish.

The do however, appear to have forgotten about Google earth which continues to function reasonably well.

Originally posted by Absence of Self
The do however, appear to have forgotten about Google earth which continues to function reasonably well.

Is it not because a lot of data in this case is local to the client?

Some new news, russian planes are bombing Poti-Harbor, military bases in Senaki and Choni and airbase in Vaziani. All according to Rustavi 2

I got this info from another forum.

I'm hoping the US resists the impulse to jump in this mess. We don't need to make things worse right now.

[edit on 8-8-2008 by Digital_Reality]

I see! They bomb Poti beause they want to assure there is no resupply by sea, presumably from nearby Turkey.

From the news, there's already 1400 civilians dead! So yes, Georgians troops are beginning the ethnic cleansing of South Ossetians, Russia is doing the right thing in protecting them.

Also Georgia is massing troops near the Abkhaz border... another break away province who's under threat of ethnic cleansing.

NATO is behind that for sure... especially the US. They farking train with Georgian troops last month and they warned Russia to stay out of Georgia politics... and add to that all the military hardware the US gave to Georgia...

Russia is bombing a Georgian port.

The russians news say that all Georgian troops have been kicked out of South Ossetia capital. Great victory, but for how long?

And 1400 deads? That's more that the Hizbullah-Israel war and in ONE DAY!!! The Georgian troops sure did their job well... KILLING CIVILIANS.

[edit on 8-8-2008 by Vitchilo]

Russians are hacking Georgia websites and back

Even took the war to the internet

reply to post by buddhasystem


More than likely, though my system couldn't have much cached locally since i just installed it and it does appear to be streaming the maps in real time from Googles servers..

reply to post by Rentor


Yeah I saw that.

Russian/Ossetian hackers at large:
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia website: www.mfa.gov.ge... defaced

Georgia-online website: www.apsny.ge... under DDoS

payback for earlier DDoS of Ossetian websites.

South Ossetia clams to have shot down Georgia plane.
Now on Russian today channel

Russian markets went down due to the war

TBLISI, Georgia (CNN) -- As Georgian troops launched a major military offensive Friday to regain control over the breakaway province of South Ossetia, the former Soviet republic's president accused Russia of bombing its territory.

According to the Associated Press, Mikhail Saakashvili said in a televised statement that Russian aircraft bombed several Georgian villages and other civilian facilities.

He said there were injuries and damage to the buildings. "A full-scale aggression has been launched against Georgia," he said in a televised statement.

A Georgian official said seven people were hurt in the attack, AP reported.

Saakashvili urged Russia to immediately stop bombing Georgian territory. "Georgia will not yield its territory or renounce its freedom," he said.

Russians accused of 'bombing' Georgia as violence escalates

Video: Fighting Escalates in Georgia

If this conflict continues to spread in to Georgia rather than remaining in South Ossetia, this will turn in to a war. It is unlikely that Georgia could or would mount an offensive in to Russian territory, but fighting spreading in to Georgia would be grounds for war.

International Reactions

Armenia: The Armenian Foreign Ministry said official Yerevan is closely monitoring the situation and urging the conflicting parties to call a halt to military operations.. “We are certainly concerned about the situation and hope that a solution will be found very quickly,” Deputy Foreign Minister Gegham Gharibjanian told RFE/RL. “We hope that the parties will make maximum efforts to quickly stop bloodshed and find peaceful solutions to contentious issues,” he said.

Azerbaijan: A spokesman for the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry, Khazar Ibrahim, said that the Georgian actions were in accord with international law and that Azerbaijan recognizes the territorial integrity of Georgia.

China: China called for worldwide truce coinciding with the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing.

Estonia: The Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a statement on August 8th calling for an immediate stop to the hostilities to avoid further casualties, and starting peaceful negotiations. The statement suggests that the basis for these negotiations could be the proposal by the Georgian president to guarantee broad autonomy for South-Ossetia. For a quick solution the European Union and OSCE are expected to respond adequately and international efforts should be closely coordinated. Estonia supports the intermediation proposal by Finland. Estonia is ready, in keeping with its capability, to take part in humanitarian assistance. In a statement on July 22, preceding the war, the Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet emphasized the territorial integrity of Georgia and said that Russia must remove its illegally stationed troops from Georgia.

Iceland: The Icelandic Minister for Foreign Affairs Ingibjörg Sólrún Gísladóttir has in a statement from the Ministry called on the belligerents to preserve civilians and demands a quick end to the hostilities with a peaceful solution.

Kazakhstan: Following Vladimir Putin's remarks, the President of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev, said "The Georgian leadership was not right when it failed to inform [other nations] on its actions toward South Ossetia and about higher tensions taking place there". Interfax also reported that Nazarbayev "agreed with Putin's view that countries of the Commonwealth of Independent States should make an assessment of the situation and undertake efforts to halt it".

Latvia: The Latvian Minister of Foreign Affairs phoned to Georgian Minister of Foreign Affairs and stated that Latvia supports territorial integrity and sovereignty of Georgia and stressed that use of military force should be avoided and current situation should be solved in negotiations. He also said that Russia should use its influence in South Ossetia to stop Ossetian provocations and expressed hope that Russia will not get military involved.

Lithuania: On August 7th, President of Lithuania, Valdas Adamkus, received a phone call from the President of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili. Saakashvili asked Lithuania’s president to help inform heads of the European Union and other western states of the situation in the region. Adamkus assured that Lithuania would inform other European partners about the situation in Georgia and would seek adequate attention and assistance from the European Union in dealing with the situation. On August 8, Lithuanian Foreign Affairs Minister Mr. Petras Vaitiekūnas was sent to Georgia. He will be there to inform the EU partners about the situation in Georgia. Lithuania is also evacuating about 50 its citizens from conflict region

Sweden: Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs Carl Bildt said in a statement: "The way in which the situation in South Ossetia has deteriorated is cause for profound concern. It is extremely important that all those involved show restraint and play their part in bringing about a political solution," ... "I am particularly concerned about the impact of the conflict on civilians. Georgia and Russia are dangerously close to war and there is a great risk of this spreading to other parts of the Caucasus.

Turkey: Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has said that the fighting is a grave concern for Turkey, which neighbors Georgia. Erdoğan has called for an immediate cease-fire and has said that he would call Georgian and Russian leaders to urge restraint if necessary.

Ukraine: The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine called to all sides to stop fire immediately and to start solving the problem by negotiations. Ukraine has confirmed its position of support of Georgian territorial integrity and sovereignty. It was stated that Ukraine is ready to make its contribution to peaceful resolution of the region's conflict within the framework of international diplomatic efforts. Ukranian president Viktor Yushchenko, has sent his special representative Kostyantyn Yelisyeyev to Tbilisi as a result of phone conversation of Georgian President M.Saakashvili. The aims of the visit are consultations with Georgian authorities and representatives of OSCE, investigation of the situation in the region and presenting of the Ukrainian position on peaceful resolution of conflict. The Foreign Ministry also called on Russia to remove its troops from Georgia and pressure the "separatist regime" to negotiations.

United Kingdom: The Foreign and Commonwealth Office states on its website 'We are monitoring developments in Georgia following news that there has been heavy fighting between Georgian forces and South Ossetian separatists. We urge an immediate ceasefire in the fighting in South Ossetia and for a resumption of direct dialogue between all parties.'

United States: After the GMT 4:00 8 August UN Security Council meeting, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Daniel Fried, however, said it appeared that the South Ossetians were the provokers of the violence. Fried said, "We have urged the Russians to urge their South Ossetian friends to pull back and show greater restraint. And we believe that the Russians ... are trying to do just that." White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said on 8 August, "All sides should bring an immediate end to the violence and engage in direct talks to resolve this matter peacefully." Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice later stated: "We call on Russia to cease attacks on Georgia by aircraft and missiles, respect Georgia's territorial integrity, and withdraw its ground combat forces from Georgian soil."

War in South Ossetia (2008) - Reaction - States

Originally posted by Digital_Reality
reply to post by Rentor

 

Yeah I saw that.

Russian/Ossetian hackers at large:
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia website: www.mfa.gov.ge... defaced

Georgia-online website: www.apsny.ge... under DDoS

payback for earlier DDoS of Ossetian websites.

OH MY!!!! Thats the funniest thing I have seen all day!!!
Georgia must be fuming and wanting revenge hard.

reply to post by RenegadePsycho


Hope this is confirmed.
Seems that somebody in Moscow still thinks he is President of the USSR and has the right to invade an independent, small state...
The USAFE should immediately be deployd to cover Georgian air space, against increasing Russian violations of a sovereign State's territory.

reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi


All I can say is :THAT IS ONE OFF THE BEST POSTS I V EVER READ:END

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