Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Just so everyone knows, there is, just like the other two times Georgia said Russia had attacked Gori, no independent confirmation.

See here:

Security council head Alexander Lomaia said that the tanks entered Gori about 9:45 a.m., about eight hours after Georgia accepted a cease-fire previously agreed to by Russia to end a conflict that broke out last week.

Independent confirmation of Lomaia's claim was not immediately possible.

(emphasis added by me)
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Again, I'm not saying it isn't true. We need to be objective, though.

Originally posted by chips
BREAKING - SKY NEWS TV: Sky News reporter on the ground confirms that Russian tanks are inside city of Gori - 'no sign of peace' - also says that Russian soldiers have just 'robbed a number of journalists.'



[edit on 13-8-2008 by chips]

Is this on TV because there is nothing on the website!

reply to post by asen_y2k


That's because it takes longer to put it up on site man, and Russia attacking reporters!! that's because they trying make sure no one finds out that they are attacking and taking Georgia whole

Originally posted by Rentor
reply to post by asen_y2k

 

That's because it takes longer to put it up on site man, and Russia attacking reporters!! that's because they trying make sure no one finds out that they are attacking and taking Georgia whole

No they are not attacking reporters. They are robbing them. Attacking reporters is a grave war crime. They are simply robbing them. Guess they aren't really highly paid.

reply to post by Rentor


Are you absolutely certain? If this is true, it is extremely serious, as you no doubt know. It would mean that Russia stole equipment from journalists while breaking an internationally sanctioned cease-fire and invading another country for the second time in as many days. International outrage would be enormous, regardless of the context in which it occured.

I see nothing online or anywhere else about this. Are you certain reporters on the ground weren't just confirming a report by someone else? Because earlier in the thread there was a report that CNN had "confirmed on the ground" a day or two ago that Gori had been captured, but it turned out to simply be a case of them having spoken to Georgian officials who made the claim (which turned out later to be incorrect.)

Is that possible again in this instance, or are you 100% certain?

[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

reply to post by asen_y2k


Two Sky News TV reporters have just confirmed it - on the ground in the centre of Gori.

- Russian tanks ARE in Gori.

- The reporters have just personally witnessed Russian soldiers 'robbing' a group of Norwegian journalists.

Live on Sky TV - they were just on the phone to the studio. They said there is 'no sign of peace.'

Saying at the russian press conference about the equipment they captured , and 'we know where they came from' and are studying them for their strengths and weaknesses .


edit:

I see your talking about some journalist equipment, and the above line might be seen/ misinterpreted to mean I'm talking about the same thing. I'm not . They wouldn't want to examine that kind of stuff for strengths and weaknesses heh. No , Military equipment captured in battle .


[edit on 13-8-2008 by Gun Totin Gerbil]

reply to post by AceWombat04


There has been 100% verification of this now, Wombat.

Can you believe this? What next?

Originally posted by chips
reply to post by asen_y2k

 

Two Sky News TV reporters have just confirmed it - on the ground in the centre of Gori.

- Russian tanks ARE in Gori.

- The reporters have just personally witnessed Russian soldiers 'robbing' a group of Norwegian journalists.

Live on Sky TV - they were just on the phone to the studio. They said there is 'no sign of peace.'

If this is true then it will be all over the web soon and well documented. This is a horrible escalation if true. No, I am not villifying Russia or saying for certain that they weren't reacting to a perceived threat from Georgia of some kind (we don't have anywhere near enough information to say that yet.) Regardless though, if Russia is in Gori after a cease-fire, then this conflict may have just become a far more grave matter for the world. And I'm an extremely optimistic person by nature, so bear that in mind when you see me say that.

[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

reply to post by chips


EU peacekeepers that's next

ABC news has absolutely nothing about the tanks atm. But i take it this is going on Right now.

I hope .. That Bush doesn't do anything seriusly stupid. I don't see the french doing anything if all that has been said is true. At least not doing anything militarily.

I wonder just how far Putin is willing to go with this.. And just how far Bush is willing to go.

Damn i hope this is not true

What if it's Georgian tanks (which are Russian made), and someone acting as Russians?

reply to post by wolfmanjack


LOL nuclear war would be the last thing that would happen
unless Russia attacks America

reply to post by Hellmutt


Georgian forces are not even around Gori man
there at the Capital defending it(aka dug in to fight the Russians off if they invade which they just did) Next is the capital.They have Gori and Western part of Georgia already.Its all over within in a day or so

[edit on 13-8-2008 by Rentor]

reply to post by wolfmanjack

Damn i hope this is not true

Unfortunately, it absolutely is. I actually couldn't believe what I was hearing as those two reporters spoke live on the phone from the centre of the city. They also said that people are fleeing from the surrounding villages. I'm as staggered by this as you are. This has been 100% confirmed by the reporters.

Staggered.

reply to post by Hellmutt


At least one smart post! ThanX

Is this the age we live in now, where we not only have to be suspicious of news sources, but in which they are so utterly co-opted by various agendas that they all say totally different things?

A witness in Gori, 25 km (15 miles) south of the South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali, told Reuters he could not see any Russian tanks.

www.alertnet.org...

How do we know who to believe? No matter how this turns out to be going, the media has utterly failed the world in this conflict in my opinion.

[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

Originally posted by Rentor
reply to post by Hellmutt

 

Georgian forces are not even around Gori man

there at the Capital defending it(aka dug in to fight the Russians off if they invade which they just did) Next is the capital.They have Gori and Western part of Georgia already.Its all over within in a day or so

[edit on 13-8-2008 by Rentor]

I don't think that they are invading.

Firstly are the Russians mad? They just signed a peace deal and now this?

Secondly is it possible that the Georgians attacked Russian positions again in S.O, and the Russians are retaliating?

Have the Russians said anything?

[edit on 13/8/08 by asen_y2k]

reply to post by chips


I think very military, i knew Russian plan long ago "Divide and Conquer" Western part of Georgia is sealed of already remember? and they just took Gori. All that is left is the Capital which is like 12-20miles away

why isn't Reuters or bbcnews running this story?