Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Here is what Russia has to gain by a conintued invasion:

-- Control of Caspian Oil Pipline
-- Prevention of NATO in Georgia
-- The first of 15 Republics of the former Soviet Union
-- A message to the world that the Russian war machine is back

Here is what Russia has to gain by stopping the assault now:

-- A message to the world that the Russian war machine is back

8-13-08
Georgian troops leave Abkhazia, Russia enters Gori
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The war never ended guys
Russian lied to all

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Thanks,although a reporter on the ground for sky just said that the report should be taken with caution as no tanks have been seen by people in Gori. Lots of disinfo in this war.

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Cheers for that.

We'll just have to wait for more.

Britain accuses Russia of "blatant aggression"

LONDON, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Britain accused Russia on Wednesday of blatant aggression in its military incursion into Georgia and warned that it faced political consequences if it failed to uphold its international responsibilities.

"The sight of Russian tanks rolling into parts of a sovereign country on its neighbouring borders will have brought a chill down the spine of many people," Foreign Secretary David Miliband told BBC radio. "That is simply not the way in which international relations can be run in the 21st century."

Looks like the international community is continuing to stack up against Russia. We've certainly been witnessing something very, very significant over these past past few days.

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Indeed I wonder what a week from now be like

Originally posted by Rentor
8-13-08
Georgian troops leave Abkhazia, Russia enters Gori
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The war never ended guys

Russian lied to all

NOOOO NOT AGAIN!!! NOT AGAIN!!!! HELL I AM GOING TO LOOSE MY SLEEP....AGAIN!!!!

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I know my sleeping pattern is all messed up since the start of this war
i be following the story for 19/24 sadly

Mm, it's not letting me update the post with a link.

Anyway:

Britain accuses Russia of "blatant aggression"

Russian Black Sea Fleet cruiser Moscow blocked two Ukrainian ships
www.ukranews.com...

Why would Russia be blocking Ukraine? this like sign of war

Originally posted by Rentor
Russian Black Sea Fleet cruiser Moscow blocked two Ukrainian ships
www.ukranews.com...

Why would Russia be blocking Ukraine? this like sign of war

Well a good reason would be to keep outsiders from seeing what the hell they are doing.

That and also they could be keeping them out of harms way.. IE on a battlefield it would be quite easy to shoot the wrong ship..

This is escalating ..

Anyone have contacts inside the US government? IE to tell us what our defcon lvl is etc. If troops /ships etc are being spun up for deployment?

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8-13-08
50 Russian tanks in Georgian city
www.cnn.com...

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Accordig to the link you've posted, the ships were unblocked and are now on their way back to the Ukrain.

I wonder what the Turkish navy is doing at the moment. Do they have a presence just outside Gorgian teratorial waters?

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Originally posted by chips
reply to post by tarifa37

 

Cheers for that.

We'll just have to wait for more.

Britain accuses Russia of "blatant aggression"

LONDON, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Britain accused Russia on Wednesday of blatant aggression in its military incursion into Georgia and warned that it faced political consequences if it failed to uphold its international responsibilities.

"The sight of Russian tanks rolling into parts of a sovereign country on its neighbouring borders will have brought a chill down the spine of many people," Foreign Secretary David Miliband told BBC radio. "That is simply not the way in which international relations can be run in the 21st century."

Looks like the international community is continuing to stack up against Russia. We've certainly been witnessing something very, very significant over these past past few days.

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On the day that Saakashvili carried out his barbaric attack on Tskhinvali, Russia called for an immediate ceasefire resolution at the UNSCR.

Guess who used their UN Veto ? USA and UK.

Something the state-controlled BBC seems to be omitting from their so-called reporting. They are also doing their best to conceal Saakashvili's unpopularity among the vast majority of Georgians and looking very silly whilst doing so.

Given the clear US involvment in this, the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq and the illegal support for an Albanian land grab of the Serb province of Kosovo & Metohija, I would say that the real international community has slowly been stacking up against the US and UK regimes for quite some time now.

The mfa.gov.ge links don't cite sources. Furthermore, we must be mindful of the fact that twice previously during this conflict Georgia has claimed that Russian forces had entered Gori, only to later rescind those statements, instead saying that Russia was remaining outside the city (but still within Georgian territory.) As before, I'm not saying it isn't genuine, but there is no independent confirmation on the ground, and once again the sole source of this claim is the Georgian government. At the same time, I can't trust Russia's word that they aren't attacking either. We need independent journalism on the ground. Why that isn't happening remains perplexing to me.

The only thing that was ever verified by both sides and on the ground witnesses was that Sekani and Zugdidi had been subdued, that Gori was being shelled and bombed, and that Georgian forces and civilians had largely abandoned Gori. This was all before the cease-fire.

Russia and Georgia both claim to be upholding the cease-fire, but Georgia and Condoleezza Rice both say Russian air strikes continue. We don't know one way or the other at this point.

Earlier BBC reporters on the ground said that fighting in the South Ossetian area had ceased, and witnesses reported Russian forces leaving Georgian territory. All of this is linked to earlier in the thread (some of it just a few pages ago.)

Any new assault, let alone advance, on Gori would be a flagrant violation of the cease-fire, and the international community would be certain to react harshly. I can't rule out the possibility though.

We desperately need more concrete information.

This article says no fighting was reported overnight

MOSCOW/TBILISI, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Russia and Georgia proclaimed a day of mourning on Wednesday for the dead in five days of fighting over separatist South Ossetia before difficult negotiations on the details of an EU-brokered peace plan.

The breakaway region and adjacent areas of Georgia were reported quiet overnight after the warring sides signed up in principle to a six-point plan delivered on Tuesday by French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

www.alertnet.org...

However it then goes on to say...

In and around South Ossetia's main town of Tskhinvali, occasional small-arms fire resounded but there were no major incidents on the frontline.

The Interior Ministry said it was "relatively quiet." But persistent rumours circulated through the town, with unconfirmed reports of Russian tanks rolling towards the town of Gori, 25 kilometres (15 miles) south of Tskhinvali.

So what's really happening? None of us have any firm idea.


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BREAKING - SKY NEWS TV: Russian tanks on streets of Gori.

More soon.

www.cnn.com...


Georgia claims Russian incursion; Moscow denies
13 Aug 2008 08:50:43 GMT
Source: Reuters
TBILISI, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Georgia accused Russia on Wednesday of sending tanks from South Ossetia into the Georgian town of Gori but Russia issued a swift denial and an eyewitness said the town was empty.

"Russians have entered the town of Gori. There were about 50 tanks and armoured vehicles," Georgian National Security Council secretary Kakha Lomaia told a news briefing.

The Russian military strongly denied any incursion, saying "there are no Russian peacekeeping units or forces supporting them in Gori".

A witness in Gori, 25 km (15 miles) south of the South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali, told Reuters he could not see any Russian tanks.

"I've been all over town. No tanks. No Russians," said the witness, who asked not to be named. "People are confused and edgy, panicking easily," he said.

Georgia had already accused Russia on Monday evening of occupying Gori but witnesses in the town at the time said there had been no Russian incursion.

Georgian forces pulled back from the town on Monday towards the capital Tbilisi after being forced from Tskhinvali by Russian troops following days of heavy fighting.

Gori was the focus of Georgia's military buildup once fighting broke out last week. It is now practically deserted.

Russian foreign minister says Russia has agreed to revisions of the peace agreement hammered out between French and Georgian officials

MOSCOW, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Wednesday Moscow had no objections to changes in the text of a ceasefire deal clinched in Tbilisi by French President Nicolas Sarkozy but agreed earlier in Moscow.

"The clarification of the text was accepted," Lavrov told a briefing.

Sarkozy had consulted Russian President Dmitry Medvedev from Tbilisi on the changes, he said.

The changes, introduced at the insistence of Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, removed references to discussions on the future status of the two breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

www.alertnet.org...

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Holy Crap Batman
RUSSIA BROKE DEAL, IT MUST GO ALL OUT NOW.It cant just break a deal with french president involved then stop afterward.Peacekeepers must go in now.EU said it will send if this doesn't end

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BREAKING - SKY NEWS TV: Sky News reporter on the ground confirms that Russian tanks are inside city of Gori - 'no sign of peace' - also says that Russian soldiers have just 'robbed a number of journalists.'



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Way to go Bush anger the bear
8-13-08
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