Federal Officials: At Least 32 Dead After Virginia Tech University Shooting

Those damn high strung English majors!

Couldnt he have just written a poem about his pain?

Ban English!

Originally posted by Flyer
Nothing will help you against the government anyway. Waco proved that. Look at the stockpile they had.

You mean the "stockpile" that we are told they had? There has yet to be anything conclusively proven about the Davidian incident, other than the fact that the government overstepped its boundaries. To this day, they cannot make a conclusive charge agaisnst David Koresh or any of the people within the compound.

[edit on 17-4-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Wow, I still can't believe this shooting, I was at McDonald's of all places when I first heard about it, and at that point the shooting at the dorm was reported, and I thought nothing more of it than it was just some gansta shooting some other gangsta for stealing his shoes

But when I got home from worked and discovered that it was the worst mass murder in US History, I was shocked! What happened in Norris Hall was wholesale slaughter to say the least. 33 Dead (included the alleged gunman) and at least 15 wounded , wow.

From that I would say that this guy is a pro, one hell of a marksman, if he was using 9mm and .22 caliber handguns, I would say he knew alot about bullet placement and how to move and shoot quickly. From the timeline on Virgina Tech's website, it sounds as if the SWAT officers were able to to get into Norris Hall quickly.
Apparently there was a 911 call of a shooting in Norris Hall. by 9:55 responding officers are already inside and have found the shooter dead.

Even with assuming that the 911 call reported multiple shots, could this man really have killed 31 (including himself) and wound 15 others in the space of 10 minutes?

It's definitely possible, but then so are many other things...

Here are some questions I think need to be asked, and hopefully others are already asking them.,:

- How far away from Norris Hall were the first officers before they responded to the scene?

- Exactly what ballistics evidence connects both crime scenes? Is it the 9mm gun, the .22, shell casings, bullet fragments found at the crime scene, fragments removed from the victims?

- Why would the alleged gunman file off the serial numbers of both guns but leave the receipt on his person or among his belongings?

- Is it postive that these two weapons or at least 1 of them is the same gun purchased from the store that hte receipt came from? This is why the serial numbers are removed.

- Are investigators still combing the campus for other gunmen?

- Did any officer fire his or her weapon at anytime during the event?

- Were the entrances and exits at Norris Hall locked with chains?

- Exactly how many rounds of ammunition for each gun did the alleged gunman have left on his person and in the weapons?

-Were there any bullets fired that did not hit a victim?

-Have or will all the deceased victims be autopsied and the bullets and/or bullet fragments be removed from their bodies for ballistic evidence?

-Were the victims lined up as some reports have indicated? If so do the the alleged gunman speak to the direct them to do this?

-Were there any silencers recovered from the weapons or near them?

-Was the alleged gunman caught on any of the school's security cameras?

- Did he indeed return to his dorm room to re-arm, after the first shooting?

- Does the alleged gunman's Asian ethinicity have any connection to the Govenor of Virgina canceled flight to Asia upon which he was supposed to meet with Asian officials about trade?

- Did any of the victim's have a relation or prior meeting to the alleged gunman?

These questions and so many more I think need to be asked.

Please add to them if you have more questions and/or ideas...

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
You mean the "stockpile" that we are told they had? There has yet to be anything conclusively proven about the Davidian incident, other than the fact that the government overstepped its boundaries. To this day, they cannot make a conclusive charge agaisnst David Koresh or any of the people within the compound.

[edit on 17-4-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

They had 300 weapons, thats a stock pile. While you can argue the government went overboard. The fact is 300 weapons still didnt help them.

[edit on 17-4-2007 by Flyer]

Originally posted by soundofmurder
- Why would the alleged gunman file off the serial numbers of both guns but leave the receipt on his person or among his belongings?

Good observation. According to my buddy Dr. Strangecraft it's next to impossible to file the serial numbers off because the number is stamped downward into the metal. They should be able to take it to the lab and still get the number.

It's strange how those receipts and pilot's licenses and terrorist propaganda always make it so easy for us to assume guilt. It's easier than connect the dots.

Peace

Originally posted by Flyer

They had 300 weapons, thats a stock pile. While you can argue the government went overboard. The fact is 300 weapons still didnt help them.

[edit on 17-4-2007 by Flyer]

Who told you that? Where are these supposed "300 guns" that they had?

Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old senior from South Korea, as Virginia Tech gunman.



[edit on 17-4-2007 by kleverone]

Anyway, back on topic. Has anyone heard an actual motive of this gunman? From what I understand they still don't know what his motive was.

They are saying he left a note in his dorm room railing about rich kids and the debauchery on campus.

Originally posted by AbuMusaab
They are saying he left a note in his dorm room railing about rich kids and the debauchery on campus.

Yeah,I heard that he left a really bizarre note in his Dorm room. I tell you, we are living in some pretty crazy times. Between society and some people's reaction to it, I don't know what's worse.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Anyway, back on topic. Has anyone heard an actual motive of this gunman? From what I understand they still don't know what his motive was.

Originally posted by AbuMusaab
They are saying he left a note in his dorm room railing about rich kids and the debauchery on campus.

Plus the girlfriend theory that Zeeon posted a link about, and John Lears theory of a diversion tactic.

Originally posted by makeitso

Plus the girlfriend theory that Zeeon posted a link about, and John Lears theory of a diversion tactic.

Well, generally, things like this are used by the anti-gun lobby to peddle their agenda. I suspect this will be done the same way.

Wow, that's one scary looking kid.

Can any of you make out how many rounds are fired in the mobile phone footage of the SWAT entering the building?

I make out 6 or 7, but not sure if one is the police blowing open the doors..

27 shots during the entire video.

Originally posted by soundofmurder
Wow, that's one scary looking kid.

I think he's just angry looking.

Anybody ever noticed how most mass killers and serial killers always have three names.

Yes, I know it's standard procedure for Korean names but we can add another one to the list.

Peace

Wow 27 shots? damn, i dont think I saw the whole thing then.

Virginia Tech People Search

After search for every variation of the shooters name I could think of -
there are no search results. So either

1. The guy's info was removed.
2. The guy doesn't go to VT at all and we're being fed misinformation.
3. The guy's info is hidden. (probable, but unlikely)

How i'd love to logon to VT's lan under the shooters ID and PID and read this dudes email etc. I've been scouring the net for hours trying to find any bit of info on this guy - there isn't much. The best source of info, imho, is the VT lan.

Originally posted by Flyer

Originally posted by Nemithesis
He didn't even use a gun.
How could anyone possibly predict or prevent something like that?
It's simple, you can't.

With that amount of TNT, theres no way that should have happened either.

Say the next one runs around with a couple crossbows and a bucket of bolts, are we supposed to then ban crossbows?

Knives?
Large rocks?

The weapon is just a tool, removing it doesn't change the cause and effect.

Originally posted by johnlear
My opinion is that the VA Tech massacre was a government sponsored, planned and enacted operation just as 911 was. This particular operation was to divert attention from several current events that reflect poorly on the administration, their policies and programs and the war in Iraq.

If that were true, I doubt it would have started with a lovers quarrel earlier at 7:15 then wait two hours to go postal. The school should have been locked down after the first incident and he might have been stopped.

I doubt it would happen that way, but just in case, if it were, I would bet the diversion would be for the The Growing White House Email Conspiracy.