The Disclosure Project is looking for a Professional Publicist

Well, if you can afford to blow an 100k camera on a project, just to convince debunkers there is life visiting planet, be my guest. I love to see more footage.

I sure can't afford that type of equipment, and I'm sure CSETI can't either.

Now if this was a government funded project, we could probably have 2 or 3 camera man, all night long on this no problem.

The Disclosure Project is looking for a Professional Publicist

What they SHOULD be looking for is a spokesperson one can take seriously, not "new-agey" Greer... It doesn't matter that you've collected some great witnesses, when the spokesperson is talking about summoning UFOs and chanting, etc., etc. It's just not going to EVER get the job done....

The thing is, what if it is true that abilities like telepathy, remote viewing and astral projection are real and achievable, and what if they really can be used to make contact? What if Greer really did discover "the Rosetta stone of ET contact"?

Should he have just kept quiet about it, because most people wouldn't want to believe him?

I think he made the right choice in telling the truth even if it cost him some credibility. It is those that have embraced God and their spiritual side, those who accept these spiritual gifts, who will carry the world forward into a peaceful future. Those who don't want to believe in anything but cold, hard, empty materialistic science are the ones who are the most dangerous and the most likely to nuke us back to the stone age, IMO.....

Originally posted by millerman
The thing is, what if it is true that abilities like telepathy, remote viewing and astral projection are real and achievable, and what if they really can be used to make contact? What if Greer really did discover "the Rosetta stone of ET contact"?

Great! All that Greer has to do is to PROVE it!

For the sake of not wanting to risk a camera from SOME rain is a JOKE!

Richard/Tock, why should a waterproof camera cost $100,000? Why?

Should he have just kept quiet about it, because most people wouldn't want to believe him?

If Greer proves his claims, then he his disclosure word will spread faster than he ever thought could possibly happen.

I think he made the right choice in telling the truth even if it cost him some credibility. It is those that have embraced God and their spiritual side, those who accept these spiritual gifts, who will carry the world forward into a peaceful future.

I think he made the wrong choice making up claims that he could not prove. What is god and why should people embrace it? Can you prove to me that there is a god that people should embrace?

Those who don't want to believe in anything but cold, hard, empty materialistic science are the ones who are the most dangerous and the most likely to nuke us back to the stone age, IMO.....

That's totally false. It seems to me that it is the people who believe in a god who are the ones that want to nuke us back into the stone age.

He proved it to me, so I'm happy

Now do I care if he does all this in front of the public?

Not until it can be safe for both parties, until then, No, don't do it in public.

And I'm sure, we can make contact with them, but I don't think we have anything to say about if they come or not. Now, that's up to THEM

Steven and His team can vector in craft in remote areas when the other side wants to respond, if they are busy doing something else, nothing happends.
It's like calling your girlfriend asking to go out, but you don't know if she had already other plans

Was it proven he can do it, Yes, 1000s of people seen it.
Was it massively shown to the world, no, should be coming soon though Stay tuned.

Look it up, good cameras 50k+.
UV Good cameras, I don't even want to think about it
A friend of mine bought a new camera, for hobby, 20k

[edit on 19-4-2007 by RichardLalancette]

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by millerman

Those who don't want to believe in anything but cold, hard, empty materialistic science are the ones who are the most dangerous and the most likely to nuke us back to the stone age, IMO.....

That's totally false. It seems to me that it is the people who believe in a god who are the ones that want to nuke us back into the stone age.

Uhhh.... WHAT? The people who believe in God and spirituality and peace, are the people who want to drop nukes on people?

Sorry but that makes absolutely no sense at all.

[edit on 19-4-2007 by millerman]

Originally posted by tezzajw

Is Richard Lalancette the old tock?

Interesting that he was banned and still wants to post here, if it is him.

Yup, same person... same attitude.

Originally posted by millerman
Uhhh.... WHAT? The people who believe in God and spirituality and peace, are the people who want to drop nukes on people?
Sorry but that makes absolutely no sense at all.
[edit on 19-4-2007 by millerman]

Bush (believer in god) = Warlord
Howard (Aussie Prime Minister, believer in god) = Warlord
Muslims (believers in god) = Warlords/Terrorists
Blair (believer in god) = Warlord
the list goes on...
They're doing a great job dropping conventional bombs at the moment. Iran wanted nukes, why? So their warlord/terrorist leaders (believers in god) could use the nukes?

This thread is about Greer's publicist. You make a claim that scientific people who don't embrace god want to nuke us all off the planet. Rubbish. The planet has enough believers in god who are more than ready to use whatever bombs they have. Remember, the only country to use nukes in conflict was under the influence of leaders who believed in god - read the currency "In god we trust", but we'll still drop nukes to prove that we can.

Please don't continue your god theory in this thread where it is not required. Disbelief in god does not mean that someone wants to nuke the planet. We've got enough god believers who are prepared to do that for us.

Originally posted by RichardLalancette
Well, if you can afford to blow an 100k camera on a project, just to convince debunkers there is life visiting planet, be my guest. I love to see more footage.

I sure can't afford that type of equipment, and I'm sure CSETI can't either.

I have never heard of a $100,000 camera... unless your a movie studio, and since you admit that TDP can't afford one - then why were they afraid to get water on their NON-$100,000 camera? LOL - what a load of bunk.

Originally posted by RichardLalancette
Now do I care if he does all this in front of the public?
Not until it can be safe for both parties, until then, No, don't do it in public.

With the name of the organisation being "The Disclosure Project", you would think that they would WANT to do everything in public. Seems to me like an elusive cult.

And I'm sure, we can make contact with them, but I don't think we have anything to say about if they come or not. Now, that's up to THEM

We can make contact with them? Haven't we already made contact with them? Which is it, Richtock, either we have or haven't made contact with them?

Steven and His team can vector in craft in remote areas when the other side wants to respond, if they are busy doing something else, nothing happends.
It's like calling your girlfriend asking to go out, but you don't know if she had already other plans

Right, of course he can. He just can't prove it.

I don't know about your girlfriends, but all of mine dropped everything to make time for me!

Was it proven he can do it, Yes, 1000s of people seen it.
Was it massively shown to the world, no, should be coming soon though

Stay tuned.

Why wasn't it shown to the world if the name of the organisation is called "The Disclosure Project"?

Look it up, good cameras 50k+.
UV Good cameras, I don't even want to think about it

A friend of mine bought a new camera, for hobby, 20k

So your friend buys a $20,000 camera and good cameras cost $50,000 but you initially typed that they would need a $100,000 camera to film a 100 foot UFO with the threat of rain. Rubbish and bunk.

kroms33 - yep, it's the same tock, isn't it. Aren't we lucky it resurrected itself to keep on typing Greer's bunk all over the screen.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by millerman
Uhhh.... WHAT? The people who believe in God and spirituality and peace, are the people who want to drop nukes on people?
Sorry but that makes absolutely no sense at all.
[edit on 19-4-2007 by millerman]

Bush (believer in god) = Warlord
Howard (Aussie Prime Minister, believer in god) = Warlord
Muslims (believers in god) = Warlords/Terrorists
Blair (believer in god) = Warlord

Dr Greer (believes in God) = for universal peace, non warlord
Mother Teresa (believes in God)= helps hungry sick and homeless people, non warlord
Dalai Lama (believes in God) = universal peace, non warlord
Dr Martin Luther King (believed in God) = civil rights leader, promoted non-violent demonstrations over violence, non warlord.

the list goes on....

The opinion that you have asserted that just because somebody believes in God means they are violent is misguided.



[edit on 19-4-2007 by c3hamby]

Originally posted by RichardLalancette
He proved it to me, so I'm happy

Now do I care if he does all this in front of the public?

Not until it can be safe for both parties, until then, No, don't do it in public.

Of course not - I mean, he would loose $800-$15,000 a person per session if he went public - and everyone would have disclosure: corporate suicide.

Was it proven he can do it, Yes, 1000s of people seen it.
Was it massively shown to the world, no, should be coming soon though

Stay tuned.

When have thousands seen Greer vector UFOs? Time place and date please.
Again, more empty promi$e$.

Originally posted by tezzajw


kroms33 - yep, it's the same tock, isn't it. Aren't we lucky it resurrected itself to keep on typing Greer's bunk all over the screen.

Yay. Well, let him believe what he wants - but unfortunately he comes to these discussions without proof and not enough ammunition. The only reason someone would need a $100,000 camera to film a UFO is because they are making a fictional movie. All those $100,000 cameras are HD - I mean, can you believe that there is some 100ft UFO hovering or whatever it was doing and these people are so clueless as to not whip out a $500 handicam? Just goes to show, if it was a real 100ft UFO, the Greerists are "mental giants" when it comes to filming them...

"HEY!!! Loook that that 100ft UFO, man!"
"Whao - the world should see this!!!!"
"Yeah, but its raining - and I think the humidity might mess up my handicam if I take it out of the bag... we should have purchased a $200,000 waterproofed HD cam... maybe next time."
"Yeah, lets just sit here and watch it."
"Ok."

Originally posted by c3hamby
The opinion that you have asserted that just because somebody believes in God means they are violent is misguided.

Ok, c3hamby. Let's have another lesson in logic.

I DID NOT STATE that ALL believers in god are ready to drop the bomb. I gave specific examples of people who do believe in god who are ready to drop the bomb and have already dropped an obscene amount of conventional bombs.

millerman claimed that people who believe in science are most likely to nuke us off the planet. I refuted that claim by giving examples of warmongers who believe in god. There are plenty of people on the planet, who believe in god, with very itchy trigger fingers when it comes to eagerly dropping bombs.

I did not state that all people who believe in god want to drop bombs. Sure, there are some believers in god who don't want to drop bombs, but there are also plenty who do.

millerman tried to sneak god into this thread by claiming that those who don't follow god are more likely to nuke us all. That's false and was not needed in a thread about Greer's publicist.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Bush (believer in god) = Warlord
Howard (Aussie Prime Minister, believer in god) = Warlord
Muslims (believers in god) = Warlords/Terrorists
Blair (believer in god) = Warlord
the list goes on...
They're doing a great job dropping conventional bombs at the moment. Iran wanted nukes, why? So their warlord/terrorist leaders (believers in god) could use the nukes?

This thread is about Greer's publicist. You make a claim that scientific people who don't embrace god want to nuke us all off the planet. Rubbish. The planet has enough believers in god who are more than ready to use whatever bombs they have. Remember, the only country to use nukes in conflict was under the influence of leaders who believed in god - read the currency "In god we trust", but we'll still drop nukes to prove that we can.

Part of real spirituality is a belief/philosophy that you don't harm others unnecessarily. Bush, Blair, Howard and all them may make a public display of being religious and believing in God, but what do they really worship? POWER, and the almighty dollar. Some even go so far as to say that they are actually Satanists and have engaged in satanic ritual abuse etc....

Those who are truly spiritual would rather die themselves than drop bombs or make use of WMDs or engage in any kind of warmongering.....

Please don't continue your god theory in this thread where it is not required.

I'll talk about whatever I feel like, thanks!

Disbelief in god does not mean that someone wants to nuke the planet. We've got enough god believers who are prepared to do that for us.

Lack of real spirituality makes people aggressive, competitive, xenophobic, violent....

All technology can be used for peaceful purposes or it can be used to harm and destroy. In this era of technologies that are capable of killing all living things on earth, or even destroying the whole planet itself, it is absolutely critical that we rediscover real genuine spirituality - before it's too late!

Originally posted by millerman
Part of real spirituality is a belief/philosophy that you don't harm others unnecessarily. Bush, Blair, Howard and all them may make a public display of being religious and believing in God, but what do they really worship? POWER, and the almighty dollar.

Your proof for this is? They all attend special church services and have a belief in god. Why are you trying to deny this?

Those who are truly spiritual would rather die themselves than drop bombs or make use of WMDs or engage in any kind of warmongering.....

So, you're accusing Bush, Blair, Howard, Muslims, etc of not being truly spiritual, even though they all believe in and follow god?

Lack of real spirituality makes people aggressive, competitive, xenophobic, violent....

Bush, Blair, Howard, Muslims, etc would claim to be spiritual people, yet they are all of the above, agrgressive, etc...

Your argument that, only scientific people who don't believe in god are violent and prepared to drop bombs, is false. Bush, Blair, Howard, Muslims, etc are all spiritual people who believe in god and they are all violent warmongers who are prepared to drop bombs.

Again, this has no relation to the topic of Greer's Publicist, as you wanted to bring god into a topic where it was not needed.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by millerman
Part of real spirituality is a belief/philosophy that you don't harm others unnecessarily. Bush, Blair, Howard and all them may make a public display of being religious and believing in God, but what do they really worship? POWER, and the almighty dollar.

Your proof for this is? They all attend special church services and have a belief in god. Why are you trying to deny this?

As I said, they make a public DISPLAY of going to church and "believing in God".

Meanwhile there is evidence that many of these people high up in NWO have engaged in a lot of quite unspeakable evil. Besides starting wars and outright killing thousands if not millions of people, there's the hard drugs, pedophilia and child sex rings, MKULTRA mind control, satanic ritual abuse, and on and on and on......

And no, I don't feel like searching for all the links and evidence right now. Go research it yourself if you don't believe me.

Those who are truly spiritual would rather die themselves than drop bombs or make use of WMDs or engage in any kind of warmongering.....

So, you're accusing Bush, Blair, Howard, Muslims, etc of not being truly spiritual, even though they all believe in and follow god?

Yes, I'm making a distinction between active, genuine spirituality, and simply making a big public display of going to church or praying or donating $$$ or whatever. Also there's a big difference between active spirituality and merely following/spouting lots of religious dogma.

Real spirituality is not just about believing in and praying to God; it's also about living in harmony with nature and other people.

Lack of real spirituality makes people aggressive, competitive, xenophobic, violent....

Bush, Blair, Howard, Muslims, etc would claim to be spiritual people, yet they are all of the above, agrgressive, etc...

Right, CLAIM TO BE, but aren't really.

And BTW, I like you categorized ALL Muslims as Warlords/Terrorists! Holy bigotry!


[edit on 19-4-2007 by millerman]

Originally posted by millerman
As I said, they make a public DISPLAY of going to church and "believing in God".

Yes, so? They go to church - they believe in god. Why would you want to deny this? Whether they do it in public or not, they still attend church.

Meanwhile there is evidence that many of these people high up in NWO have engaged in a lot of quite unspeakable evil. Besides starting wars and outright killing thousands if not millions of people, there's the hard drugs, pedophilia and child sex rings, MKULTRA mind control, satanic ritual abuse, and on and on and on......
And no, I don't feel like searching for all the links and evidence right now. Go research it yourself if you don't believe me.

No, I don't believe you, unless you show me some evidence. Nice try, millerman, but it's another totally unsubstantiated claim that you are making.

If you don't feel like you have evidence to support your claim, then don't make the claim.

Yes, I'm making a distinction between active, genuine spirituality, and simply making a big public display of going to church or praying or donating $$$ or whatever. Also there's a big difference between active spirituality and merely following/spouting lots of religious dogma.
Real spirituality is not just about believing in and praying to God; it's also about living in harmony with nature and other people.

Wow, so you are accusing Bush, Blair, etc... of not being spiritual. Despite that fact that they think they are by attending church and praying to god. Well done. You're passing your judgement on other people, using your values of what spiritual SHOULD be.

Again, millerman, these people are all religious. They attend church, they follow god, they have spiritual values for themselves. They are also violent warlords and they have dropped many bombs in the past and will do so in the future.

Your claim that people who do not worship god want to drop nukes and blow us away is totally false. We have enough god-worshippers who have been prepared to push the button in the past and will continue to do so in the future.

By drawing out this ridiculous argument about god, that you started, you are veering the topic away from Greer's Publicist.

Originally posted by kroms33
"HEY!!! Loook that that 100ft UFO, man!"
"Whao - the world should see this!!!!"

"Damn, we can't do it!"
"Why not?"
"We don't have a publicist that will work for peanuts to get our message and pictures out!"
"Oh, &%!#, we'll need to raise the fees on our lecture tour to hire someone with credibility!"
"It's ok, the believers will pay whatever we want them to..."
"Yeah, then we can scoop the profits to buy that radiation proof, rain proof, wind proof, idiot proof, drop proof, EMP proof camera that will have 5000 optical zoom and super-slow-mo to capture our vectored UFOs."
"Cool, let's buy it duty free though."

Originally posted by RichardLalancette
Well, if you can afford to blow an 100k camera on a project, just to convince debunkers there is life visiting planet, be my guest. I love to see more footage.

I sure can't afford that type of equipment, and I'm sure CSETI can't either.

Now if this was a government funded project, we could probably have 2 or 3 camera man, all night long on this no problem.

You are making no sense again! As someone else has already pointed out suitable cameras can be purchased for a few hundred dollars - so why this $100k price figure you keep quoting?
You provided links to CSETI videos when you posted as Tock so we know they have basic non-$100k video cameras (the footage showed an insect flying past the lens, remember, and they tried to pretend it showed an alien 'energy communication anchor')

You also claimed that video camera's couldn't be used because they would be damaged by the 'electro magnetic waves' produced by the spacecraft, now you pretend it's the weather that will damage them!


I thought the whole purpose of Disclosure was to show the public that we are being visited by extraterrestrials. Yet you say the Disclosure team won't film definitive proof but will spend thousands of dollars on valueless anecdotal evidence? We already have thousands of written documents and personal statements and they may imply possibilies but they prove nothing. Why would CSETI/Disclosure chose to spend its funds on adding to the document pile and not providing the irrefutable evidence it claims to have?

Let's face it, the reason they won't film the evidence is because there is no evidence to film.

The words that instantly spring to mind are 'fraud', 'scam', 'deceit', 'racket' and any other synonym you can think of...

Come on Richard, wake up and smell the coffee. You are either being duped or you are one of the dupers, and looking at your blog which heavily promotes Greer/CSETI and asks people to send money to you, I think I know what your agenda is.