Ukraine halts transit of Russian gas to Europe after a prewar deal expired

a reply to: xuenchen

Sorry, no idea what that has to do with this topic?

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

BS. If that was oh-so important, NATO would have stopped the Russia BS in 48 hours, not drag it out for YEARS like they ARE DOING 🤣🤣🥥🤣🤣

What has that got to do with what I said?


While I agree that NATO could end the war quickly (longer than 48 hours but certainly in a matter of weeks) there is the ever so slight complication of Russia having the world's largest stockpile of nuclear weapons and a sociopathic president.

Then why has NATO stood down while Biden has blocked every effort at negotiatons and continually 'poked the Bear'?

Here's some information to consider ....

Ukraine’s Foreign Minister just visited Damascus to meet the leader of the new terrorist regime in charge, now that the U.S. has removed the $10 million bounty on his head. It turns out Ukraine had long been assisting the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) fighters with intelligence and drones, presumably paid for by us. We had also directly been sending aid to a terrorist network which over the years had variously been ascribed to al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra, ISIS, or ISIL.

Once HTS triumphed over Assad, the terror killings commenced. The Western press has ignored this because it conflicts with the narrative that Assad was the only mass murderer in that nation. HTS founder and leader Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani (aka Jolani) fought Americans long ago under the al-Qaeda leader, Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq.
After Assad’s fall, Ukraine shipped 500 tonnes of food aid to Syria. Ukraine’s Foreign Minister declared: “Ukraine will remain a linchpin to food security in Syria, even if our country is engaged in a war.” How much of the billions Biden keeps shipping to Ukraine will end up in Syria? Why does the State Department use Ukraine as a U.S. cutout? Because we can not overtly support a regime led by a man who fought Americans in Iraq and supported the 9/11 and October 7 attacks.

Once Assad fled Syria, the U.S. State Department wasted no time in removing al-Jawlani’s terrorist designation. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Barbara Leaf met with him in Damascus on December 20 after the terror group seized control on December 8. Per Leaf:

He came across as pragmatic. Of course, we are—we’ve been hearing this for some time, some very pragmatic and moderate statements on various issues from women’s rights to protection of equal rights for all communities, et cetera.

Got that? Al-Jawlani has dropped his goal of imposing sharia law. He is coming around on women’s rights. Imagine that. Which is worse: if Leaf actually believes this, or is too dense to know otherwise?

According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, HTS is a good, old-fashioned Islamic terrorist organization:

I would encourage everyone to read this very informative article and give it some honest consideration.

www.americanthinker.com...

Poked the bear meaning supported Ukraine against Putin invasion?

Those pipelines must be natural gas. LNG has to be kept very cold it appears. I burn natural gas here for furnace heating, fireplace heating, water heating, and for my gas cooktop. Its low pressure gas.

I used electricity for almost everything at my last house I sold last year. It sucked! It was very expensive. The winter gas and electric bill at my new house is about $300 a month combined. I feel for these people. They are between a rock and a hard spot. Poor leadership, and poor planning has resulted in a big dangerous mess for certain European countries.

liquefied natural gas (LNG), natural gas (primarily methane) that has been liquefied for ease of storing and transporting. Liquefied natural gas (LNG) is 600 times smaller than natural gas when the latter is in its gaseous form, and it can be easily shipped overseas. LNG is produced by cooling natural gas below its boiling point, −162 °C (−259 °F), and is stored in double-walled cryogenic containers at or slightly above atmospheric pressure. It can be converted back to its gaseous form by simply raising the temperature.

a reply to: visitedbythem

Yes. I believe that LNG is transported by ships?

a reply to: xuenchen

That explains why Russia hasn't bombed the pipeline routes.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: visitedbythem

Yes. I believe that LNG is transported by ships?

correct

Pro Zelensky supporters have their heads so stuck up in bidens and MSMS narratives that they don’t see that cutting this gas off and sending more billions to Ukraine is actually securing the process on Ukraine’s defeat and complete and utter destruction and devastation.

The gloves are coming off coming up.

We see Kiev is currently pretty much left in tact. Compared to what NATO did to Serbia in 99’ and Israel with Gaza etc etc.

We all know Russia could flatten Kiev tomorrow. But it probably won’t have too.

Zelensky regime will be wiped out coming up. While the Ukrainian population is being abducted daily off the streets by TCC officials to be used as a bullet sponge and in attrition.

Ukraine has NATO holding it’s head in the grinder, and some of the British and the rest of the irrelevant chihuahua countries like “estonia” are cheering it on for example.

Trump knows this and the direction it’s been heading.

Between now and January 20th, Brandon needs to stfu.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

BS. If that was oh-so important, NATO would have stopped the Russia BS in 48 hours, not drag it out for YEARS like they ARE DOING 🤣🤣🥥🤣🤣

What has that got to do with what I said?




While I agree that NATO could end the war quickly (longer than 48 hours but certainly in a matter of weeks) there is the ever so slight complication of Russia having the world's largest stockpile of nuclear weapons and a sociopathic president.

Then why has NATO stood down while Biden has blocked every effort at negotiatons and continually 'poked the Bear'?

Here's some information to consider ....

Ukraine’s Foreign Minister just visited Damascus to meet the leader of the new terrorist regime in charge, now that the U.S. has removed the $10 million bounty on his head. It turns out Ukraine had long been assisting the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) fighters with intelligence and drones, presumably paid for by us. We had also directly been sending aid to a terrorist network which over the years had variously been ascribed to al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra, ISIS, or ISIL.

Once HTS triumphed over Assad, the terror killings commenced. The Western press has ignored this because it conflicts with the narrative that Assad was the only mass murderer in that nation. HTS founder and leader Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani (aka Jolani) fought Americans long ago under the al-Qaeda leader, Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq.
After Assad’s fall, Ukraine shipped 500 tonnes of food aid to Syria. Ukraine’s Foreign Minister declared: “Ukraine will remain a linchpin to food security in Syria, even if our country is engaged in a war.” How much of the billions Biden keeps shipping to Ukraine will end up in Syria? Why does the State Department use Ukraine as a U.S. cutout? Because we can not overtly support a regime led by a man who fought Americans in Iraq and supported the 9/11 and October 7 attacks.

Once Assad fled Syria, the U.S. State Department wasted no time in removing al-Jawlani’s terrorist designation. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Barbara Leaf met with him in Damascus on December 20 after the terror group seized control on December 8. Per Leaf:

He came across as pragmatic. Of course, we are—we’ve been hearing this for some time, some very pragmatic and moderate statements on various issues from women’s rights to protection of equal rights for all communities, et cetera.

Got that? Al-Jawlani has dropped his goal of imposing sharia law. He is coming around on women’s rights. Imagine that. Which is worse: if Leaf actually believes this, or is too dense to know otherwise?

According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, HTS is a good, old-fashioned Islamic terrorist organization:

I would encourage everyone to read this very informative article and give it some honest consideration.

www.americanthinker.com...

Poked the bear meaning supported Ukraine against Putin invasion?

'Poked the Bear' as in everybody is so afraid of Russia dropping nukes that every attempt to stop this war or de-escalate has been blocked at the direction of Joe Biden.

If world leaders were so worried about nukes flying they would have told Biden to pound sand when they attempted to set up negotiations.

That tells me how real this war is. Remenber, there's a lot of information in Ukraine that Biden must make sure Russia never gets its hands on, even if it means nuclear war.

I think this thread has run it's course now, I've said all I have to say about the actual topic and don't want to get involved in it's derailment, so, Happy New Year to one and all!

🎊
🎇🎆

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

Yes, and the product flowing thru this pipeline is NG not LNG.

www.latimes.com...

There seems to be bit of misunderstanding on this thread about NG and LNG.

LNG is liquefied NG.

The reason for converting NG into LNG is that LNG is highly energy-dense and takes up about 1/600th of the volume of natural gas in its gaseous state.

They are the same product delivered differently.

a reply to: Imhere

NATO inundated Libya too ☠️

a reply to: xuenchen

Libya? Get on topic.

a reply to: visitedbythem


Ummm…LNG is stored in and transported in a pressure vessel…

When you pump the LNG into the vessel under pressure it liquifies…just as the propane does in your gas grill pressure tank…
The LNG will naturally regassify as it is released from the pressure under controlled…regulated…conditions.

The advantage to transporting LNG is the that you can transport huge quantities of gas in a compressed liquified state and then relieve the pressure and return the natural gas into a gaseous state ready for use…or transfer it into smaller containment pressure vessels should pipelines be unavailable at the end consumer…

That’s all that there is to the process…no need for refrigeration…





YouSir

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

BS. If that was oh-so important, NATO would have stopped the Russia BS in 48 hours, not drag it out for YEARS like they ARE DOING 🤣🤣🥥🤣🤣

What has that got to do with what I said?




While I agree that NATO could end the war quickly (longer than 48 hours but certainly in a matter of weeks) there is the ever so slight complication of Russia having the world's largest stockpile of nuclear weapons and a sociopathic president.

Then why has NATO stood down while Biden has blocked every effort at negotiatons and continually 'poked the Bear'?

Here's some information to consider ....

Ukraine’s Foreign Minister just visited Damascus to meet the leader of the new terrorist regime in charge, now that the U.S. has removed the $10 million bounty on his head. It turns out Ukraine had long been assisting the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) fighters with intelligence and drones, presumably paid for by us. We had also directly been sending aid to a terrorist network which over the years had variously been ascribed to al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra, ISIS, or ISIL.

Once HTS triumphed over Assad, the terror killings commenced. The Western press has ignored this because it conflicts with the narrative that Assad was the only mass murderer in that nation. HTS founder and leader Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani (aka Jolani) fought Americans long ago under the al-Qaeda leader, Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq.
After Assad’s fall, Ukraine shipped 500 tonnes of food aid to Syria. Ukraine’s Foreign Minister declared: “Ukraine will remain a linchpin to food security in Syria, even if our country is engaged in a war.” How much of the billions Biden keeps shipping to Ukraine will end up in Syria? Why does the State Department use Ukraine as a U.S. cutout? Because we can not overtly support a regime led by a man who fought Americans in Iraq and supported the 9/11 and October 7 attacks.

Once Assad fled Syria, the U.S. State Department wasted no time in removing al-Jawlani’s terrorist designation. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Barbara Leaf met with him in Damascus on December 20 after the terror group seized control on December 8. Per Leaf:

He came across as pragmatic. Of course, we are—we’ve been hearing this for some time, some very pragmatic and moderate statements on various issues from women’s rights to protection of equal rights for all communities, et cetera.

Got that? Al-Jawlani has dropped his goal of imposing sharia law. He is coming around on women’s rights. Imagine that. Which is worse: if Leaf actually believes this, or is too dense to know otherwise?

According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, HTS is a good, old-fashioned Islamic terrorist organization:

I would encourage everyone to read this very informative article and give it some honest consideration.

www.americanthinker.com...

Poked the bear meaning supported Ukraine against Putin invasion?

'Poked the Bear' as in everybody is so afraid of Russia dropping nukes that every attempt to stop this war or de-escalate has been blocked at the direction of Joe Biden.

If world leaders were so worried about nukes flying they would have told Biden to pound sand when they attempted to set up negotiations.

That tells me how real this war is. Remenber, there's a lot of information in Ukraine that Biden must make sure Russia never gets its hands on, even if it means nuclear war.

Amazing how on ATS Biden is both a senile incompetent who couldn't turn his own shoe laces and a Machiavellian mastermind controling the war in Ukraine for his own benefit.

originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: visitedbythem


Ummm…LNG is stored in and transported in a pressure vessel…

When you pump the LNG into the vessel under pressure it liquifies…just as the propane does in your gas grill pressure tank…
The LNG will naturally regassify as it is released from the pressure under controlled…regulated…conditions.

The advantage to transporting LNG is the that you can transport huge quantities of gas in a compressed liquified state and then relieve the pressure and return the natural gas into a gaseous state ready for use…or transfer it into smaller containment pressure vessels should pipelines be unavailable at the end consumer…

That’s all that there is to the process…no need for refrigeration…

YouSir

I think you are confusing LNG and LPG.

a reply to: BedevereTheWise


Ummm…you are correct…thank you for helping me understand the difference…

LNG needs both pressure and refrigeration…

Thank You Sir…










YouSir

originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: BedevereTheWise


Ummm…you are correct…thank you for helping me understand the difference…

LNG needs both pressure and refrigeration…

Thank You Sir…

YouSir

No worries. Same basic concept just different method.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

BS. If that was oh-so important, NATO would have stopped the Russia BS in 48 hours, not drag it out for YEARS like they ARE DOING 🤣🤣🥥🤣🤣

What has that got to do with what I said?




While I agree that NATO could end the war quickly (longer than 48 hours but certainly in a matter of weeks) there is the ever so slight complication of Russia having the world's largest stockpile of nuclear weapons and a sociopathic president.

Then why has NATO stood down while Biden has blocked every effort at negotiatons and continually 'poked the Bear'?

Here's some information to consider ....

Ukraine’s Foreign Minister just visited Damascus to meet the leader of the new terrorist regime in charge, now that the U.S. has removed the $10 million bounty on his head. It turns out Ukraine had long been assisting the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) fighters with intelligence and drones, presumably paid for by us. We had also directly been sending aid to a terrorist network which over the years had variously been ascribed to al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra, ISIS, or ISIL.

Once HTS triumphed over Assad, the terror killings commenced. The Western press has ignored this because it conflicts with the narrative that Assad was the only mass murderer in that nation. HTS founder and leader Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani (aka Jolani) fought Americans long ago under the al-Qaeda leader, Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq.
After Assad’s fall, Ukraine shipped 500 tonnes of food aid to Syria. Ukraine’s Foreign Minister declared: “Ukraine will remain a linchpin to food security in Syria, even if our country is engaged in a war.” How much of the billions Biden keeps shipping to Ukraine will end up in Syria? Why does the State Department use Ukraine as a U.S. cutout? Because we can not overtly support a regime led by a man who fought Americans in Iraq and supported the 9/11 and October 7 attacks.

Once Assad fled Syria, the U.S. State Department wasted no time in removing al-Jawlani’s terrorist designation. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Barbara Leaf met with him in Damascus on December 20 after the terror group seized control on December 8. Per Leaf:

He came across as pragmatic. Of course, we are—we’ve been hearing this for some time, some very pragmatic and moderate statements on various issues from women’s rights to protection of equal rights for all communities, et cetera.

Got that? Al-Jawlani has dropped his goal of imposing sharia law. He is coming around on women’s rights. Imagine that. Which is worse: if Leaf actually believes this, or is too dense to know otherwise?

According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, HTS is a good, old-fashioned Islamic terrorist organization:

I would encourage everyone to read this very informative article and give it some honest consideration.

www.americanthinker.com...

Poked the bear meaning supported Ukraine against Putin invasion?

'Poked the Bear' as in everybody is so afraid of Russia dropping nukes that every attempt to stop this war or de-escalate has been blocked at the direction of Joe Biden.

If world leaders were so worried about nukes flying they would have told Biden to pound sand when they attempted to set up negotiations.

That tells me how real this war is. Remenber, there's a lot of information in Ukraine that Biden must make sure Russia never gets its hands on, even if it means nuclear war.

Amazing how on ATS Biden is both a senile incompetent who couldn't turn his own shoe laces and a Machiavellian mastermind controling the war in Ukraine for his own benefit.

When people complain about Biden it's with the unspoken understanding that they're directing their complaints to the one(s) calling the shots, whom most seem to believe is Obama. He's got Obama's entire cabinet for the most part and is following the exact same agenda as Obama did in 'fundamentaally remaking America".

Anybody with an IQ higher than a boot knows Biden isn't and never has been the one calling the shots. Biden is a low-level, low-IQ puppet; a means to an end; at least for those smart enough to know he didn't hide in his basement and still get more votes for POTUS than anyone else in history.

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

BS. If that was oh-so important, NATO would have stopped the Russia BS in 48 hours, not drag it out for YEARS like they ARE DOING 🤣🤣🥥🤣🤣

What has that got to do with what I said?




While I agree that NATO could end the war quickly (longer than 48 hours but certainly in a matter of weeks) there is the ever so slight complication of Russia having the world's largest stockpile of nuclear weapons and a sociopathic president.

Then why has NATO stood down while Biden has blocked every effort at negotiatons and continually 'poked the Bear'?

Here's some information to consider ....

Ukraine’s Foreign Minister just visited Damascus to meet the leader of the new terrorist regime in charge, now that the U.S. has removed the $10 million bounty on his head. It turns out Ukraine had long been assisting the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) fighters with intelligence and drones, presumably paid for by us. We had also directly been sending aid to a terrorist network which over the years had variously been ascribed to al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra, ISIS, or ISIL.

Once HTS triumphed over Assad, the terror killings commenced. The Western press has ignored this because it conflicts with the narrative that Assad was the only mass murderer in that nation. HTS founder and leader Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani (aka Jolani) fought Americans long ago under the al-Qaeda leader, Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq.
After Assad’s fall, Ukraine shipped 500 tonnes of food aid to Syria. Ukraine’s Foreign Minister declared: “Ukraine will remain a linchpin to food security in Syria, even if our country is engaged in a war.” How much of the billions Biden keeps shipping to Ukraine will end up in Syria? Why does the State Department use Ukraine as a U.S. cutout? Because we can not overtly support a regime led by a man who fought Americans in Iraq and supported the 9/11 and October 7 attacks.

Once Assad fled Syria, the U.S. State Department wasted no time in removing al-Jawlani’s terrorist designation. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Barbara Leaf met with him in Damascus on December 20 after the terror group seized control on December 8. Per Leaf:

He came across as pragmatic. Of course, we are—we’ve been hearing this for some time, some very pragmatic and moderate statements on various issues from women’s rights to protection of equal rights for all communities, et cetera.

Got that? Al-Jawlani has dropped his goal of imposing sharia law. He is coming around on women’s rights. Imagine that. Which is worse: if Leaf actually believes this, or is too dense to know otherwise?

According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, HTS is a good, old-fashioned Islamic terrorist organization:

I would encourage everyone to read this very informative article and give it some honest consideration.

www.americanthinker.com...

Poked the bear meaning supported Ukraine against Putin invasion?

'Poked the Bear' as in everybody is so afraid of Russia dropping nukes that every attempt to stop this war or de-escalate has been blocked at the direction of Joe Biden.

If world leaders were so worried about nukes flying they would have told Biden to pound sand when they attempted to set up negotiations.

That tells me how real this war is. Remenber, there's a lot of information in Ukraine that Biden must make sure Russia never gets its hands on, even if it means nuclear war.

Amazing how on ATS Biden is both a senile incompetent who couldn't turn his own shoe laces and a Machiavellian mastermind controling the war in Ukraine for his own benefit.

When people complain about Biden it's with the unspoken understanding that they're directing their complaints to the one(s) calling the shots, whom most seem to believe is Obama. He's got Obama's entire cabinet for the most part and is following the exact same agenda as Obama did in 'fundamentaally remaking America".

Anybody with an IQ higher than a boot knows Biden isn't and never has been the one calling the shots. Biden is a low-level, low-IQ puppet; a means to an end; at least for those smart enough to know he didn't hide in his basement and still get more votes for POTUS than anyone else in history.

Yet.

every attempt to stop this war or de-escalate has been blocked at the direction of Joe Biden.

But sure you meant Obama because evil democrat and all that. Maybe things happen in the world outside the divide that is American domestic politics?

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

BS. If that was oh-so important, NATO would have stopped the Russia BS in 48 hours, not drag it out for YEARS like they ARE DOING 🤣🤣🥥🤣🤣

What has that got to do with what I said?




While I agree that NATO could end the war quickly (longer than 48 hours but certainly in a matter of weeks) there is the ever so slight complication of Russia having the world's largest stockpile of nuclear weapons and a sociopathic president.

Then why has NATO stood down while Biden has blocked every effort at negotiatons and continually 'poked the Bear'?

Here's some information to consider ....

Ukraine’s Foreign Minister just visited Damascus to meet the leader of the new terrorist regime in charge, now that the U.S. has removed the $10 million bounty on his head. It turns out Ukraine had long been assisting the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) fighters with intelligence and drones, presumably paid for by us. We had also directly been sending aid to a terrorist network which over the years had variously been ascribed to al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra, ISIS, or ISIL.

Once HTS triumphed over Assad, the terror killings commenced. The Western press has ignored this because it conflicts with the narrative that Assad was the only mass murderer in that nation. HTS founder and leader Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani (aka Jolani) fought Americans long ago under the al-Qaeda leader, Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq.
After Assad’s fall, Ukraine shipped 500 tonnes of food aid to Syria. Ukraine’s Foreign Minister declared: “Ukraine will remain a linchpin to food security in Syria, even if our country is engaged in a war.” How much of the billions Biden keeps shipping to Ukraine will end up in Syria? Why does the State Department use Ukraine as a U.S. cutout? Because we can not overtly support a regime led by a man who fought Americans in Iraq and supported the 9/11 and October 7 attacks.

Once Assad fled Syria, the U.S. State Department wasted no time in removing al-Jawlani’s terrorist designation. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Barbara Leaf met with him in Damascus on December 20 after the terror group seized control on December 8. Per Leaf:

He came across as pragmatic. Of course, we are—we’ve been hearing this for some time, some very pragmatic and moderate statements on various issues from women’s rights to protection of equal rights for all communities, et cetera.

Got that? Al-Jawlani has dropped his goal of imposing sharia law. He is coming around on women’s rights. Imagine that. Which is worse: if Leaf actually believes this, or is too dense to know otherwise?

According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, HTS is a good, old-fashioned Islamic terrorist organization:

I would encourage everyone to read this very informative article and give it some honest consideration.

www.americanthinker.com...

Poked the bear meaning supported Ukraine against Putin invasion?

'Poked the Bear' as in everybody is so afraid of Russia dropping nukes that every attempt to stop this war or de-escalate has been blocked at the direction of Joe Biden.

If world leaders were so worried about nukes flying they would have told Biden to pound sand when they attempted to set up negotiations.

That tells me how real this war is. Remenber, there's a lot of information in Ukraine that Biden must make sure Russia never gets its hands on, even if it means nuclear war.

Amazing how on ATS Biden is both a senile incompetent who couldn't turn his own shoe laces and a Machiavellian mastermind controling the war in Ukraine for his own benefit.

When people complain about Biden it's with the unspoken understanding that they're directing their complaints to the one(s) calling the shots, whom most seem to believe is Obama. He's got Obama's entire cabinet for the most part and is following the exact same agenda as Obama did in 'fundamentaally remaking America".

Anybody with an IQ higher than a boot knows Biden isn't and never has been the one calling the shots. Biden is a low-level, low-IQ puppet; a means to an end; at least for those smart enough to know he didn't hide in his basement and still get more votes for POTUS than anyone else in history.

Yet.

every attempt to stop this war or de-escalate has been blocked at the direction of Joe Biden.

But sure you meant Obama because evil democrat and all that. Maybe things happen in the world outside the divide that is American domestic politics?

When I say 'Joe Biden' I mean his handlers. 99% of Americans understand this. We're done now I hope? At least I am.

You'll have to get you attention fix elsewhere.