Ukraine halts transit of Russian gas to Europe after a prewar deal expired

originally posted by: xuenchen
How many People actually knew this gas deal with Ukraine and Russia existed before ??

🤣🤣🤣

Pretty much anyone paying attention.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

So people are expected to actually believe all that ?? 😬 What if those stats are purposely tainted and tilted?

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

So people are expected to actually believe all that ?? 😬 What if those stats are purposely tainted and tilted?

On this site that's a pretty common belief amongst people when stats don't support their argument.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

Yeah, they kind of do. I know you talk like you can never be wrong but you are a LOT.
So, EU just panics for no reason and everything is just fine, right? Oh please 🙄🙄🙄

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

Yeah, they kind of do. I know you talk like you can never be wrong but you are a LOT.
So, EU just panics for no reason and everything is just fine, right? Oh please 🙄🙄🙄

A provided a link supporting what I said.

It's in the text you quoted .

What part do you think was wrong?

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

Yeah, they kind of do. I know you talk like you can never be wrong but you are a LOT.
So, EU just panics for no reason and everything is just fine, right? Oh please 🙄🙄🙄

Here is the EU panicking

The European Commission said on Wednesday the bloc was prepared for the stoppage, and gas infrastructure was "flexible enough to provide gas of non-Russian origin to central and eastern Europe via alternative routes".

Yes definitely full on panic mode.

The EU and UK are not that bothered:

BBC News - Era of cheap Russian gas to EU ends as transit across Ukraine stops
www.bbc.com...

"Russian gas was less than 10% of the EU's gas imports in 2023, according to the bloc. That figure was 40% in 2021. "

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

Yeah, they kind of do. I know you talk like you can never be wrong but you are a LOT.
So, EU just panics for no reason and everything is just fine, right? Oh please 🙄🙄🙄

A provided a link supporting what I said.

It's in the text you quoted .

What part do you think was wrong?

Russia’s gas export has slowed down since the war, yes but I guess we’ll have to wait and see how they fare with being completely shutoff. I would expect their gas cost to significantly increase if others monopolize the EU market, which I’m sure they will.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: cherokeetroy
That development coupled with this one: 👇

"Russia’s foreign minister has rejected ideas floated by members of the Trump transition team for a negotiated ceasefire in Ukraine, casting doubt that the president-elect will be able to secure a peace deal in his first 24 hours—as he repeatedly claimed on the campaign trail."
www.thedailybeast.com...


It doesn't look like the war will be stopped anytime soon.

when Trump cuts off Ukraine

We'll see. Trump is very flexible with his positions and pledges. He has no problem backpedaling or flip flopping. He's proven that with the visas.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

Yeah, they kind of do. I know you talk like you can never be wrong but you are a LOT.
So, EU just panics for no reason and everything is just fine, right? Oh please 🙄🙄🙄

A provided a link supporting what I said.

It's in the text you quoted .

What part do you think was wrong?

Russia’s gas export has slowed down since the war, yes but I guess we’ll have to wait and see how they fare with being completely shutoff. I would expect their gas cost to significantly increase if others monopolize the EU market, which I’m sure they will.

Most of the impact of moving off cheaper Russian gas will have already been felt. There are a number of different sources the EU now uses.

You didn't say how I was wrong.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
The EU and UK are not that bothered:

BBC News - Era of cheap Russian gas to EU ends as transit across Ukraine stops
www.bbc.com...

"Russian gas was less than 10% of the EU's gas imports in 2023, according to the bloc. That figure was 40% in 2021. "

Some are certainly bothered by it.

From Carpy’s link

Moldova - which is not part of the EU - could be seriously affected by the end of the transit agreement. It generates much of its electricity at a power station fuelled by Russian gas. It also supplied the Russia-backed breakaway region of Transnistria, a small sliver of land sandwiched between Moldova and Ukraine where around 300,000 people live.

Slovakia has said it will pay more for alternative routes. Its energy regulator announced in early December that Gas prices for consumers would rise in 2025. Robert Fico, Slovakia's prime minister, said on Wednesday that the end of the deal would have "drastic" consequences for EU countries, but not on Russia, Reuters reported. On Friday, Fico - who had just made a surprise visit to Moscow for talks with Putin - threatened to stop supplying electricity to Ukraine. This prompted Zelensky to accuse Fico of helping Putin "fund the war and weaken Ukraine". "Fico is dragging Slovakia into Russia's attempts to cause more suffering for Ukrainians," the Ukrainian president said.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

Yeah, they kind of do. I know you talk like you can never be wrong but you are a LOT.
So, EU just panics for no reason and everything is just fine, right? Oh please 🙄🙄🙄

A provided a link supporting what I said.

It's in the text you quoted .

What part do you think was wrong?

Russia’s gas export has slowed down since the war, yes but I guess we’ll have to wait and see how they fare with being completely shutoff. I would expect their gas cost to significantly increase if others monopolize the EU market, which I’m sure they will.

Most of the impact of moving off cheaper Russian gas will have already been felt. There are a number of different sources the EU now uses.

You didn't say how I was wrong.

And they’re going to pay for those alternate gas routes, they’ve already said priced are going up in 25.

You’re never wrong 🙄

[snicker snicker] [look who got paid] 😄😀🌀🤣🤡

check


Russian gas continues to transit Ukraine in 2023, going to Austria, 6.0bcm p.a., Slovakia, 6.5bcm, and Hungary, 1.0bcm (part of their national supply). All three countries pay Russia in rubles.[176] Russian gas piped through Ukraine in 2023 was 14.4bcm, with only the Sudzha, Urengoy–Pomary–Uzhhorod pipeline operational.[177] Ukraine is contracted to provide the service until December 2024. Gazprom is obliged to provide the gas and pay the transit fees to Ukraine.🤣🤣

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
That Russian gas has continued to flow to Europe has always been known. European countries had become way to reliant on Russian gas over last few decades and that takes time to reverse.

I believe the gas exports to Europe are now about 25% of what they were prior to 2022.

but but whatabout all that big money with Russian Gas going through Ukraine Pipelines all during this WAR!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHY NOW are they all oh-so concerned and firm?

Because breaking the agreement would have caused massive problems for countries that Ukraine desperately needed support from.

If that's true, why is Ukraine stopping the gas NOW??? Is it no longer important? Wake up 😁🤣

Because russian gas is now no where near as important to Europe as already said. With a few exceptions most European countries can now function without Russian gas at minimal impact.

. You just make this bs up as you go? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, at all.

Sorry facts don't agree with your bias.

www.consilium.europa.eu...

Yeah, they kind of do. I know you talk like you can never be wrong but you are a LOT.
So, EU just panics for no reason and everything is just fine, right? Oh please 🙄🙄🙄

A provided a link supporting what I said.

It's in the text you quoted .

What part do you think was wrong?

Russia’s gas export has slowed down since the war, yes but I guess we’ll have to wait and see how they fare with being completely shutoff. I would expect their gas cost to significantly increase if others monopolize the EU market, which I’m sure they will.

Most of the impact of moving off cheaper Russian gas will have already been felt. There are a number of different sources the EU now uses.

You didn't say how I was wrong.

And they’re going to pay for those alternate gas routes, they’ve already said priced are going up in 25.

You’re never wrong 🙄

Well you certainly haven't provided an example of where I was.

Well...

Europe to lose up to 30% of gas import from Russia after Ukrainian transit stops


EU imports record quantities of Russian LNG in 2024

originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
Well...

Europe to lose up to 30% of gas import from Russia after Ukrainian transit stops


EU imports record quantities of Russian LNG in 2024

30% of russian pipeline gas into EU is about 2.5% of the total.

Oh dear how will we cope.

a reply to: KrustyKrab

I was talking about the EU and the UK.

originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
Well...

Europe to lose up to 30% of gas import from Russia after Ukrainian transit stops


EU imports record quantities of Russian LNG in 2024

But experts say this is not a problem! 🤣🤣

[ waiting for more massive deflectionary List of fallacies ]

a reply to: xuenchen

If you want to believe TASS ,that's up to you.

The UK just is not bothered by this. Why all the hysteria?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

but whatabout The Financial Times?!

EU imports record quantities of Russian LNG in 2024

AND: 🤣🤣 why all the importing when supporting a war against Russia? 🤣🤣
EU imports record quantities of Russian LNG in 2024

Russian liquefied natural gas imports to the EU have reached a record high this year despite the bloc’s attempt to cut off dependence on gas from the country following Moscow’s full-scale war on Ukraine.

Europe imported a record 16.5mn tonnes of Russian LNG as of mid-December, above last year’s imports of 15.18mn tonnes, according to commodities data provider Kpler. The amount is also higher than the last record of 15.21mn tonnes imported in 2022.

Source: Financial Times