Ukraine halts transit of Russian gas to Europe after a prewar deal expired

a reply to: Xtrozero

Not a big deal at all. Except for Russia and the massively corrupt GAZPROM oligarchs. A right kick in the nuts.

But..but - Nazis! Bandera! And so on and on...

"Thank You for helping me finance the war against you"
"Now watch what happens next" 😄

a reply to: xuenchen

Wasn't Russia paying Ukraine?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Xtrozero

Not a big deal at all. Except for Russia and the massively corrupt GAZPROM oligarchs. A right kick in the nuts.

But..but - Nazis! Bandera! And so on and on...

I meant not a big deal to Europe as they moved away from Russian energy. If this was done 3 years ago it would have had massive impact to the lives in Europe.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Yes, I know. I agree.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: xuenchen

Wasn't Russia paying Ukraine?

Technically yes. Third party countries paid Russia and Russia paid to pipe the gas across Ukraine.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

Wasn't Russia paying Ukraine?

One of the many REAL reasons Russia invaded. Not only removing the middle man to have direct access to Europe to sell their energy, but the massive food production of Ukraine would be a plus.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Imhere
Zelensky is just a puppet.

Runs one of the most corrupted Eastern European countries of all time, that took hundreds of millions of dollars and aid from these EU countries, then shuts their gas off having to look for more expensive gas alternatives.

How appreciative.

I called it a couple of years ago that this Ukrainian regime doesn’t give one rats ass about anyone.

They only care about themselves and changing street names after some Nazi nationalist loser that got zapped decades ago.

Think about it. These people don’t care about other EU countries or about the U.S.

Just siphoning money from “rich” western countries.

Personally I hope Slovakia stands strong and shuts their electricity off and stops support.

Nothing to do with Russia invading then.

Most EU countries have already moved away from Russian oil, bigger loss for Russia than the EU.

That’s not what the Slovakian PM and the people are saying lol

Yep nothing to see here!

Just screwing over other EU countries being forced to get more expensive gas alternatives.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Yes. Not NATO expansion, Nazis, Bio Labs etc.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

Wasn't Russia paying Ukraine?

One of the many REAL reasons Russia invaded. Not only removing the middle man to have direct access to Europe to sell their energy, but the massive food production of Ukraine would be a plus.

Not worried out well then has it.

Europe doesn't want Russian energy anymore and rampant food inflation in Russia.

a reply to: Imhere

"Just screwing over other EU countries being forced to get more expensive gas alternatives."

The EU had already massively reduced it's reliance on Russia's gas, dear boy.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Xtrozero

Yes. Not NATO expansion, Nazis, Bio Labs etc.

Massive access to the Black Sea, direct access military wise to EU, and most do not know that the Donbas area has the largest gas fields in Europe, now add 40 million people to the population pool.

But those Nazis....lol

originally posted by: Imhere

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Imhere
Zelensky is just a puppet.

Runs one of the most corrupted Eastern European countries of all time, that took hundreds of millions of dollars and aid from these EU countries, then shuts their gas off having to look for more expensive gas alternatives.

How appreciative.

I called it a couple of years ago that this Ukrainian regime doesn’t give one rats ass about anyone.

They only care about themselves and changing street names after some Nazi nationalist loser that got zapped decades ago.

Think about it. These people don’t care about other EU countries or about the U.S.

Just siphoning money from “rich” western countries.

Personally I hope Slovakia stands strong and shuts their electricity off and stops support.

Nothing to do with Russia invading then.

Most EU countries have already moved away from Russian oil, bigger loss for Russia than the EU.

That’s not what the Slovakian PM and the people are saying lol

Yep nothing to see here!

Just screwing over other EU countries being forced to get more expensive gas alternatives.

Fico decided not to move away from Russian energy despite this being obvious for the last 3 years.

Any impact on Slovakian energy costs is his and ultimately Putin's.

Trying to put the blame on Ukraine for not transporting gas for a country invading it is a ridiculous stretch even by your standards.

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While Ukraine had the right to halt its gas deal by invoking a “force majeure” clause when the war broke out and deprive Russia of billions of dollars of funding for its war, doing so would have severely hurt Ukraine’s allies and likely created a major energy crisis felt around the world.

Both Russia and Ukraine make money off the deal – though Russia’s revenues from selling gas to Europe far outweigh Ukraine’s income from the gas transport fees.

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Why Russia still rakes in cash transporting gas through Ukraine: 4 key charts

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

The EU had already massively reduced it's reliance on Russia's gas, dear boy.

Prices came down two years ago, but still higher than 2018ish, I guess new normal moving from the cheaper Russia energy.

a reply to: BedevereTheWise

Fico is a Russian stooge. He's made his bed so he can lay in it.

originally posted by: xuenchen
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While Ukraine had the right to halt its gas deal by invoking a “force majeure” clause when the war broke out and deprive Russia of billions of dollars of funding for its war, doing so would have severely hurt Ukraine’s allies and likely created a major energy crisis felt around the world.

Both Russia and Ukraine make money off the deal – though Russia’s revenues from selling gas to Europe far outweigh Ukraine’s income from the gas transport fees.

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Why Russia still rakes in cash transporting gas through Ukraine: 4 key charts

The sharp drop in demand from European buyers has led to Russia’s energy giant Gazprom posting its largest losses in 25 years – with a $5.5 billion loss in the first half of 2024

The invasion is working it great for Russia isn't it.

a reply to: xuenchen

From your own Ukrainian source:

"While Ukraine had the right to halt its gas deal by invoking a “force majeure” clause when the war broke out and deprive Russia of billions of dollars of funding for its war, doing so would have severely hurt Ukraine’s allies and likely created a major energy crisis felt around the world."

But now, the UK and EU has drastically reduced reliance on Russian gas.

So, there is that.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The "War" was fun especially the money flow to Russia all along 😄

a reply to: xuenchen

Glad you find it so amusing. But you are still missing the point.

Even from your own source, sadly.