The Brink has been reached.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: annonentity



So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

Russia/Ukraine War can't be compared to some evil foreign country coming and invading your country so just STOP trying to make this comparison. It's much more comparable to the Western US invading the Eastern US.

SO would you go to war with a side that has family and friends? Would you stand and fight against people you know or are at least exactly like you?

Ukraine is a separate country. it has been independent for over 30 years. It is a statement of fact to say Russia has invaded.

That wasn't the question 😳

You claimed it can't be compared to a foreign country invading.

It literally is a foreign country invading.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

You can figure that out on ur own 😳

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

You can figure that out on ur own 😳

So no examples then.

Why am I not surprised.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

You can figure that out on ur own 😳

So no examples then.

Why am I not surprised.

Why do you want to play this game? So you can say "you racist!"? Pretty much every country that's not part of the west. Almost every single middle Eastern country, All the Oriential countries (China, Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia etc) Almost every African country. Pakistan, India.

You know darn well what countries have the vast majority the same skin color.

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

You can figure that out on ur own 😳

So no examples then.

Why am I not surprised.

Why do you want to play this game? So you can say "you racist!"? Pretty much every country that's not part of the west. Almost every single middle Eastern country, All the Oriential countries (China, Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia etc) Almost every African country. Pakistan, India.

You know darn well what countries have the vast majority the same skin color.

Vast majority of same skin colour does not mean a country based on skin colour.

Most countries will have the same majority skin colour as their neighbouring countries. Most people don't use that as an excuse for invading.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

You can figure that out on ur own 😳

So no examples then.

Why am I not surprised.

Why do you want to play this game? So you can say "you racist!"? Pretty much every country that's not part of the west. Almost every single middle Eastern country, All the Oriential countries (China, Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia etc) Almost every African country. Pakistan, India.

You know darn well what countries have the vast majority the same skin color.

Vast majority of same skin colour does not mean a country based on skin colour.

Most countries will have the same majority skin colour as their neighbouring countries. Most people don't use that as an excuse for invading.

]

WOW.

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

You can figure that out on ur own 😳

So no examples then.

Why am I not surprised.

Why do you want to play this game? So you can say "you racist!"? Pretty much every country that's not part of the west. Almost every single middle Eastern country, All the Oriential countries (China, Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia etc) Almost every African country. Pakistan, India.

You know darn well what countries have the vast majority the same skin color.

Vast majority of same skin colour does not mean a country based on skin colour.

Most countries will have the same majority skin colour as their neighbouring countries. Most people don't use that as an excuse for invading.

]

WOW.

Glad that was a revelation to you.

One less thing you can fail to justify Russia's invasion with.

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: annonentity



So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

Russia/Ukraine War can't be compared to some evil foreign country coming and invading your country so just STOP trying to make this comparison. It's much more comparable to the Western US invading the Eastern US.

SO would you go to war with a side that has family and friends? Would you stand and fight against people you know or are at least exactly like you?

Like the American Civil war you mean?
You need to stop suckling at Putin's teat of misinfo.
Yes Ukraine was once part of the Soviet union when they were too weak to fight it off.

The fact is though, they are their own country with their own language and the right not to be absorbed into whatever big country wants them.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

You can figure that out on ur own 😳

So no examples then.

Why am I not surprised.

Why do you want to play this game? So you can say "you racist!"? Pretty much every country that's not part of the west. Almost every single middle Eastern country, All the Oriential countries (China, Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia etc) Almost every African country. Pakistan, India.

You know darn well what countries have the vast majority the same skin color.

Vast majority of same skin colour does not mean a country based on skin colour.

Most countries will have the same majority skin colour as their neighbouring countries. Most people don't use that as an excuse for invading.

]

WOW.

Glad that was a revelation to you.

One less thing you can fail to justify Russia's invasion with.

It's still a civil war in my book

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: annonentity



So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

Russia/Ukraine War can't be compared to some evil foreign country coming and invading your country so just STOP trying to make this comparison. It's much more comparable to the Western US invading the Eastern US.

SO would you go to war with a side that has family and friends? Would you stand and fight against people you know or are at least exactly like you?

Like the American Civil war you mean?
You need to stop suckling at Putin's teat of misinfo.
Yes Ukraine was once part of the Soviet union when they were too weak to fight it off.

The fact is though, they are their own country with their own language and the right not to be absorbed into whatever big country wants them.

Russia was never absorbing all of Ukraine into Russia. It was Crimea first, who were happy to join Russia and then it was gonna be the far East of Ukraine, Donbas and a Regime change. Ukraine was still gonna exist, the far Eastern parts of Ukraine that was majority ethnic Russian and that Ukrainian government was taking away their culture and language was joining Russia. You guys always make it sound so much different like Ukraine wasn't gonna exist anymore.

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn


So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

When the US invaded Vietnam, you can take all the US soldiers out of uniform and put them in a room with the Vietcong and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded IRAQ you could put all the all the US soliders and the Iraqs in the same room in street clothes and you would still know who was on what side.

When the US invaded Afghanistan you could put them all in a room in street clothes and you would still know who the America's were and who the Afghans were.

With Russia and Ukraine you put them all in a big room in street clothes and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So stop asking such a foolish question like it's some sort of "gotcha" moment because it's not even close. When Russia took over Crimea THE VAST majority of the people in Crinea were happy, like 90% of them.

And?

Do nations get defined by skin colour?

Many do yes.

Really which ones?

You can figure that out on ur own 😳

So no examples then.

Why am I not surprised.

Why do you want to play this game? So you can say "you racist!"? Pretty much every country that's not part of the west. Almost every single middle Eastern country, All the Oriential countries (China, Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia etc) Almost every African country. Pakistan, India.

You know darn well what countries have the vast majority the same skin color.

Vast majority of same skin colour does not mean a country based on skin colour.

Most countries will have the same majority skin colour as their neighbouring countries. Most people don't use that as an excuse for invading.

]

WOW.

Glad that was a revelation to you.

One less thing you can fail to justify Russia's invasion with.

It's still a civil war in my book

Maybe get a different book.

One where you could look up the definition of civil war would be a good start.

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: annonentity



So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

Russia/Ukraine War can't be compared to some evil foreign country coming and invading your country so just STOP trying to make this comparison. It's much more comparable to the Western US invading the Eastern US.

SO would you go to war with a side that has family and friends? Would you stand and fight against people you know or are at least exactly like you?

Like the American Civil war you mean?
You need to stop suckling at Putin's teat of misinfo.
Yes Ukraine was once part of the Soviet union when they were too weak to fight it off.

The fact is though, they are their own country with their own language and the right not to be absorbed into whatever big country wants them.

Russia was never absorbing all of Ukraine into Russia. It was Crimea first, who were happy to join Russia and then it was gonna be the far East of Ukraine, Donbas and a Regime change. Ukraine was still gonna exist, the far Eastern parts of Ukraine that was majority ethnic Russian and that Ukrainian government was taking away their culture and language was joining Russia. You guys always make it sound so much different like Ukraine wasn't gonna exist anymore.

You have no more idea of how much of Ukraine Putin wanted than anyone else on this site.

However we can see from the early days of the war it was at a minimum to force regime change to be a Russian puppet.

It's also irrelevant as stealing part of something is still stealing.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: annonentity



So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

Russia/Ukraine War can't be compared to some evil foreign country coming and invading your country so just STOP trying to make this comparison. It's much more comparable to the Western US invading the Eastern US.

SO would you go to war with a side that has family and friends? Would you stand and fight against people you know or are at least exactly like you?

Like the American Civil war you mean?
You need to stop suckling at Putin's teat of misinfo.
Yes Ukraine was once part of the Soviet union when they were too weak to fight it off.

The fact is though, they are their own country with their own language and the right not to be absorbed into whatever big country wants them.

Russia was never absorbing all of Ukraine into Russia. It was Crimea first, who were happy to join Russia and then it was gonna be the far East of Ukraine, Donbas and a Regime change. Ukraine was still gonna exist, the far Eastern parts of Ukraine that was majority ethnic Russian and that Ukrainian government was taking away their culture and language was joining Russia. You guys always make it sound so much different like Ukraine wasn't gonna exist anymore.

You have no more idea of how much of Ukraine Putin wanted than anyone else on this site.

Putin laid out his goals at the beginning. Of course nobody knows exactly what's he thinking, maybe he was gonna take over all of Ukraine or all of Europe or even the world? 😳

Fact is had the US and UK not got involved it would have saved countless lives, the war would have been long over and life would be back to normal in the area.

Would have been just like when Crimea joined Russia.

a reply to: Freeborn

Define
Invaded ... the USA has invaded more countries than anyone else. They have certainly changed more governments than anyone else. But as far as wars go they haven't got a track record of wins . I think the conflict is more about keeping the dollar as the reserve currency , and if they don't all the wealth held in dollars will evaporate , and that's a lot of billionaires left with nothing.

Blackrock own Ukraine now if Putin wins they will take a mega hit. So something has to give can a government like the UK cancel pensioners winter fuel payments and pursue a foreign war. The answer is yes if there is a state of emergency and elections are suspended which is what will probably have to happen. You asked if your country was invaded would you fight , I suggest your country has already been invaded and nobody is fighting anyone. Simply because all the effort is in foreign policy and not domestic.


The guys running the west are all WEF puppets who seem to believe a nuclear war with Russia is winnable, the Western public haven't got a clue about what's going down and do not care anyway because the real news is tightly censored. Those that do are looking on aghast and can do nothing.

a reply to: Freeborn

Define
Invaded ... the USA has invaded more countries than anyone else. They have certainly changed more governments than anyone else. But as far as wars go they haven't got a track record of wins . I think the conflict is more about keeping the dollar as the reserve currency , and if they don't all the wealth held in dollars will evaporate , and that's a lot of billionaires left with nothing.

Blackrock own Ukraine now if Putin wins they will take a mega hit. So something has to give can a government like the UK cancel pensioners winter fuel payments and pursue a foreign war. The answer is yes if there is a state of emergency and elections are suspended which is what will probably have to happen. You asked if your country was invaded would you fight , I suggest your country has already been invaded and nobody is fighting anyone. Simply because all the effort is in foreign policy and not domestic.


The guys running the west are all WEF puppets who seem to believe a nuclear war with Russia is winnable, the Western public haven't got a clue about what's going down and do not care anyway because the real news is tightly censored. Those that do are looking on aghast and can do nothing.

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: annonentity



So, again; what would you do if someone invaded your country?
Would you stand and fight or cave in and submit?

Russia/Ukraine War can't be compared to some evil foreign country coming and invading your country so just STOP trying to make this comparison. It's much more comparable to the Western US invading the Eastern US.

SO would you go to war with a side that has family and friends? Would you stand and fight against people you know or are at least exactly like you?

Like the American Civil war you mean?
You need to stop suckling at Putin's teat of misinfo.
Yes Ukraine was once part of the Soviet union when they were too weak to fight it off.

The fact is though, they are their own country with their own language and the right not to be absorbed into whatever big country wants them.

Russia was never absorbing all of Ukraine into Russia. It was Crimea first, who were happy to join Russia and then it was gonna be the far East of Ukraine, Donbas and a Regime change. Ukraine was still gonna exist, the far Eastern parts of Ukraine that was majority ethnic Russian and that Ukrainian government was taking away their culture and language was joining Russia. You guys always make it sound so much different like Ukraine wasn't gonna exist anymore.

You have no more idea of how much of Ukraine Putin wanted than anyone else on this site.

Putin laid out his goals at the beginning. Of course nobody knows exactly what's he thinking, maybe he was gonna take over all of Ukraine or all of Europe or even the world? 😳

Fact is had the US and UK not got involved it would have saved countless lives, the war would have been long over and life would be back to normal in the area.

Would have been just like when Crimea joined Russia.

Or Putin could have chosen not to invade and none of those lives would have been lost in the war. The blame lies with the invaders, not those defending their own country.

originally posted by: annonentity
a reply to: Freeborn

Define
Invaded ... the USA has invaded more countries than anyone else. They have certainly changed more governments than anyone else. But as far as wars go they haven't got a track record of wins . I think the conflict is more about keeping the dollar as the reserve currency , and if they don't all the wealth held in dollars will evaporate , and that's a lot of billionaires left with nothing.

Blackrock own Ukraine now if Putin wins they will take a mega hit. So something has to give can a government like the UK cancel pensioners winter fuel payments and pursue a foreign war. The answer is yes if there is a state of emergency and elections are suspended which is what will probably have to happen. You asked if your country was invaded would you fight , I suggest your country has already been invaded and nobody is fighting anyone. Simply because all the effort is in foreign policy and not domestic.


The guys running the west are all WEF puppets who seem to believe a nuclear war with Russia is winnable, the Western public haven't got a clue about what's going down and do not care anyway because the real news is tightly censored. Those that do are looking on aghast and can do nothing.

Almost everything you have said is wrong.

UK has invaded more countries than the US.

The US has won the vast majority of conflicts it has fought in.

Ukraine conflict has nothing to do with the dollars status as a reserve currency.

Wealth held in dollars does not evaporate if the US was no longer the dominant reserve currency.

Billionaires do not hold their wealth in dollars, they invest it.

BlackRock do not own Ukraine.

The war in Ukraine has nothing to do with winter fuel payments.

The UK has not been invaded.

The west is bending over backwards to avoid nuclear war, its Russia that keeps making nuclear threats.

The western public are far far better informed than those in Russia.

a reply to: annonentity

So they can use Iranian missiles/drones and NK artillery rounds but Ukraine cant use British and US weapons.

Get that red line pissed on and fire at will would be my thinking on the matter.

Russia won't do squat, because they know what happens next if they are silly enough to attack a NATO nation.

And China has told them straight that they are an embarrassment in Ukraine and under no circumstances can they unleash nuclear weapons.