Rioting in Britain

originally posted by: ElitePlebeian2

You think making it easier and more safe to come to Europe is going to reduce the amount of migrants?

No I don't, I was responding specifically to how we stop the boats. If the safe routes were still available, it is far easier for our people to make the distinction and to legitimately deny entry to those boats.

As I have explained there is no quick fix and it is certainly not something our government can tackle alone, it is, as I have said, an international mess and requires addressing on that level. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

a reply to: BedevereTheWise
Now you tell me when is the right time to stand up for your country against illegal people. Have a nice time in London. Example:- True, not facebook lies, from family friends:- not far from me a hotel housing immigrants right next to a popular family attraction. Over the last 6 weeks families with children being fearfully accosted in the car park in fear for their safety so they've stopped going. Last week a young girl was raped by one of your peaceful migrants. All and I mean all incidents were reported to the police who did, surprise surprise, nothing. Now what would you do if that was your daughter or wife and children.

What did the community do??? Oh yes, you've seen the "rioter" on the news.

a reply to: crayzeed

The UN definition is they apply for asylum or refugee status in the first safe country they enter,

That is incorrect. There is no such UN rule.

a reply to: crayzeed

What would I do?

Not try and burn down asylum hostels for a start.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

She didn't mess about with the Iranian Embassy seige either when a female PC got shot.
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
a reply to: crayzeed

The UN definition is they apply for asylum or refugee status in the first safe country they enter,

That is incorrect. There is no such UN rule.

not a un rule perhaps but this...“The first safe country principle is recognised internationally as a feature of the common European asylum system”. the Dublin regulation – an EU law that sets out how countries should handle asylum seekers.

a reply to: crayzeed

If the girl was raped? And the police did nothing? And it was my child?

I'd be parenting, including making a nuisance of myself until the police did the job that I pay my council tax for them to do.

You?

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
a reply to: crayzeed

The UN definition is they apply for asylum or refugee status in the first safe country they enter,

That is incorrect. There is no such UN rule.

not a un rule perhaps but this...“The first safe country principle is recognised internationally as a feature of the common European asylum system”. the Dublin regulation – an EU law that sets out how countries should handle asylum seekers.

Which no longer applies to the UK.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
a reply to: crayzeed

The UN definition is they apply for asylum or refugee status in the first safe country they enter,

That is incorrect. There is no such UN rule.

not a un rule perhaps but this...“The first safe country principle is recognised internationally as a feature of the common European asylum system”. the Dublin regulation – an EU law that sets out how countries should handle asylum seekers.

Which no longer applies to the UK.

Ok, tell me a route through europe on foot to the channel that does not pass through one EU member then?

Of course, there isnt one, but why anyone would expect an honest answer out of such a dissembler as you is anyone's guess.

a reply to: andy06shake

Pull his string to hear, "I don't Keir"

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Nobody does, why he does not have the army(or whatever remains of such) on the streets with at least water cannons is quite frankly beyond me.

a reply to: BedevereTheWise
No! Stop deflecting. What would YOU do if this happened to you and your family and the police and your own government do not or will not stand up and protect you? Sooner rather than later it will get to you then you have to decide and you'd better hope that your community stands with you. Because the hundreds of peaceful demonstrators being labelled as rioter because a very very small minority decide to cause trouble are not going to stop.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Nobody does, why he does not have the army(or whatever remains of such) on the streets with at least water cannons is quite frankly beyond me.

Probably worried the army wouldn't be on his side maybe?

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
a reply to: crayzeed

The UN definition is they apply for asylum or refugee status in the first safe country they enter,

That is incorrect. There is no such UN rule.

not a un rule perhaps but this...“The first safe country principle is recognised internationally as a feature of the common European asylum system”. the Dublin regulation – an EU law that sets out how countries should handle asylum seekers.

Which no longer applies to the UK.

Ok, tell me a route through europe on foot to the channel that does not pass through one EU member then?

Of course, there isnt one, but why anyone would expect an honest answer out of such a dissembler as you is anyone's guess.

It relates to people applying for asylum in the EU.

You may be forgetting something. It was all over the news.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: BedevereTheWise
No! Stop deflecting. What would YOU do if this happened to you and your family and the police and your own government do not or will not stand up and protect you? Sooner rather than later it will get to you then you have to decide and you'd better hope that your community stands with you. Because the hundreds of peaceful demonstrators being labelled as rioter because a very very small minority decide to cause trouble are not going to stop.

The protests aren't peaceful. The are targeting people who had nothing to do with the murder of those children and are being organised by far right groups.

Stop defending racist violence.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Nobody does, why he does not have the army(or whatever remains of such) on the streets with at least water cannons is quite frankly beyond me.

We try in this country to police by consent. Army is and should only be used in extreme circumstances and we probably aren't there yet.

a reply to: SprocketUK

They certainly would not be on the side of the racist gammon or fanatic muslims who choose to mob and riot SprocketUK.

Anybody perpetuating violence and destruction should be arrested and brought to justice.

People wish to peacefully protest, ok fair play, its not like they dont have cause to or grievance to share.

But one thing is not the same as the other.

a reply to: BedevereTheWise

Extreme circumstances were half a week back now BedevereTheWise.

I think we are there and then some to be honest.