The emperor still has no clothes

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: quintessentone

You did though. You're literally telling me to look at someone elses definition of what their fair share is.

Wrong, I am telling you to get the specific details of both candidates' economic plans (if you can find Trumps, which you can't) then compare the two.

a reply to: LSU2018

Any other administration gets judged for what happens under their watch, even if it’s a crisis.

Bush had 9/11 and the beginning of the housing crisis. Obama saw the banks collapse when he got in and botched the bailouts and help consolidate the same banks that helped us get into that mess.

We don’t give them passes, but for some reason, the biggest deployment of money in a short amount of time.

Bush didn’t cause 9/11, but his handling of it and an unneeded war in Iraq is on him.

Obama didn’t cause the banking crisis, but he mishandled the aftermath and wasted tons of money, held no one accountable, and helped preserve the system that messed up to do it again.

Trump didn’t make COVID happen, and maybe there’s a chance if he had his way, the medicines used could have changed some of how that happened.

But he cheered on the printing of money for checks, bailouts, buying of corporate bonds by the fed, buying of individual stocks, and putting interest rates near zero.

Biden did all of that too and nothing to fix any of it and is equally to blame.

These people chose to run as president. Trump ran on being a great leader, but every excuse for his bad term was that politicians didn’t want to work with him, and the government was rogue against him. Guess he can’t lead then. Won’t even accept any accountability unless he wants it for a win.

a reply to: quintessentone

We can't find Trump's platform?

You're spinning out here...

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

I'm not muddying anything.

You said:

How did Trump making GOP leaders reject the border bill help anybody else besides Trump?

Which is muddying the topic of the thread by the way...

To which my reply stems.

Sorry you were proven wrong, yet again.

Only you can break this pattern.

Changing the context of my posts isn't working, no soap.

Back to Trump forcing the GOP to reject the southern border bill's section, how does this help anyone but Trump? Anyone?

a reply to: quintessentone

Because Ukraine's borders are not our borders.


Is there an echo in here?

a reply to: quintessentone

HR 2 the Congressional Bill was introduced May 2nd last year. It's still waiting for Schumer to bring it to a vote. Why hasn't he?
HR2

The BS your trying push would have still allowed 5000 illegal to cross every day before triggering "emergency status"

-Would have given Mayorkas blanket authority to grant amnesty
-Would have made it easier for illegals to become legal
-Would not provide any funds for building barriers or walls.

But all that is moot.

Because all Biden had to do was leave Trumps policies that were working in place .

But he made a big deal on his first day about reversing all Trump's polices. He intentionally created the border crises.


His regime is flying illegals directly into the US from Venezuela and other countries so they don't have to make the dangerous journey.

Many of those flown in have already been arrested for raping and murdering American women and children.

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

Because Ukraine's borders are not our borders.


Is there an echo in here?

No an underwater gasping sound by you.

Southern border bill section, why was it rejected by the GOP?

a reply to: watchitburn

Those are pearls Burn......

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

Because Ukraine's borders are not our borders.


Is there an echo in here?

No an underwater gasping sound by you.

Southern border bill section, why was it rejected by the GOP?

Because it was attached.

As you generously showed us...remember?

a reply to: watchitburn

As Conservatives balk...

www.nbcnews.com...

“These men and women are on the frontlines of the border crisis — and they know what it takes to fix our broken system," she wrote on X.

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

We can't find Trump's platform?

You're spinning out here...

The crap they say is so stupefyingly ridiculous.

Self awareness escapes them completely.

a reply to: quintessentone

Appreciate your continued generosity.

From your link:

On Monday afternoon Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., set up a procedural vote on a $118 billion national security supplemental bill, which includes the border legislation as well as funding for the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East and aid for the Indo-Pacific region. The Senate is expected to take an initial, procedural vote on the package on Wednesday.

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

We can't find Trump's platform?

You're spinning out here...

The crap they say is so stupefyingly ridiculous.

Self awareness escapes them completely.

Yeah, and where are the hyperlinks to go to an indepth explanation of the 'how' part of it?

a reply to: quintessentone

Still almost a year after Congress passed a clean border Bill that's still sitting with Schumer.

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

We can't find Trump's platform?

You're spinning out here...

The crap they say is so stupefyingly ridiculous.

Self awareness escapes them completely.

Yet, they are still providing an oh so valuable service.


They don't realize they are only spewing talking points that they have no comprehension of. When brought here and exposed to scrutiny, you see how well that works for them.

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

Because Ukraine's borders are not our borders.


Is there an echo in here?

No an underwater gasping sound by you.

Southern border bill section, why was it rejected by the GOP?

Because it was attached.

As you generously showed us...remember?

Muddying the context waters is all you can do, is why debate is dead here.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

Because Ukraine's borders are not our borders.


Is there an echo in here?

No an underwater gasping sound by you.

Southern border bill section, why was it rejected by the GOP?

Because it was attached.

As you generously showed us...remember?

Muddying the context waters is all you can do, is why debate is dead here.

But we are debating.

Aren't you winning?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wAnchorofCarp
a reply to: quintessentone

Because Ukraine's borders are not our borders.


Is there an echo in here?

No an underwater gasping sound by you.

Southern border bill section, why was it rejected by the GOP?

LOL you think you're winning this -

priceless!

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: quintessentone

Still almost a year after Congress passed a clean border Bill that's still sitting with Schumer.

We all know why, it's a resistance is futile kinda thing at this time.

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: quintessentone

Most people don't care how the national economy is doing and how the government spends our money. They are wrapped up in how to keep a roof over their head and how to feed their family. Both becoming much harder by the national economy and how the government spends our money.

It is not a question of the people don't see how good the economy is. It is a question of the top of the government not seeing how bad the economy is. Also who is in charge of this economy.

Which is why it should be taught in schools because they are related.

Kamala is more 'left' than Biden. She was yesterday, last month, last year and 5 years ago. With her as a 'new' choice for the Left, it's just an old option they declined on 4 years ago. However, she's now all wrapped up in pretty words, relabeled and supposedly more experienced.

I just hope after a very short amount of time, those re-enamored with her will come to their senses. The worst of Biden's policies are minor compared to what Kamala Harris will do. She's tight with the squad and she holds all the cards. We all know how and why she's where she is now. Biden was pushing many of her wants, he catered to her and her constituents. Kamala will be even worse. Joe was like a grumpy sloth, Kamala will be the bull.

We should not underestimate her or her party.