Shots Fired At Trump Rally Trump Looks Wounded

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Reportedly, the building that the shooter took the shots from was the same building that the local police tactical team was using.

Not only that but a few pages back I posted a link to an NBC article saying that the secret service had identified the building as a risk and potential week point before the rally.

This is criminal. Seriously. If it's not an inside job then these people are so dumb it's a crime. Criminal negligence = being so retarded that it is a crime to be as stupid as this.

Eric Trump just said in an interview that the SS on the stage were great...and that one of those female SS agents has been with him for years.

Also just said Trump received a cat scan in the hospital.

a reply to: 5thHead

It’s a giant cluster F.
Secret service resources taken from Trump rally to be used for Jill and Kamala who were both in Pennsylvania at the same time. Coincidence?
So now they throw in some random DHS and local PD.
That results in zero coordination, less assets, and the ones now there are inept/incompetent because they aren’t trained for this.

a reply to: CarlLaFong
Not a comparable situation.

Besides the comment I was replying to was about the poor job done by the SS because they should have forced Trump off the stage.

originally posted by: Justoneman
Well clearly it was over I would do it too.

What if there was a second shooter?

The only way to know it was over is if it was staged.

A total mess.
The point is, when time is of the essence, you’re not clowning around looking for a ladder when a quick boost will do the job.

a reply to: Vermilion
I'm saying that with proper planning and preparedness, if "time is of the essence" then the keystone cops already f'd up big time. They are a disgrace, nearly got Trump killed. A total schiit show. Your arguing that they "had to boost up" because they didn't have a ladder? Why were they so unprepared, they should have been prepared. Security experts and sniper experts are coming out, explaining how an "advance team" gets every threat/hot spot identified DAYS in advance. No way! Absolutely no excuse for the police. It was most likely a LIHOP situation, someone facilitated the shooter getting on the roof. I hope we learn what really happened, sadly we may never.

Veteran Whose Team Holds World Record for Long-Range Sniper Shots Claims Thomas Matthew Crooks May Have Had Inside Help

sniper experts are all sayin' the same thing

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Your arguing that they "had to boost up" because they didn't have a ladder?

I’m telling you what’s been reported, that’s all.
It makes sense that they wanted to look on that roof asap.
“According to a source who spoke with ABC News, Crooks did not use a ladder to get access to the roof.
Officials said an officer was "vaulted" up to the roof after rallygoers called attention to Crooks, who then turned and aimed his gun at the officer.” www.wtae.com...

Could it have been handled properly?
Absolutely.
Like I said, it was a giant cluster F.

a reply to: Vermilion
This is supposedly the building, and I really think that boost up story was made up to cover fo the cop that could have taken a shot at the guy.



Another interesting thing is that there is video of the guy in position. Someone with a phone got that, someone with a gun could have shot him. Even if they didn't hit him the counter-snipers would have been forced to engage.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Vermilion
This is supposedly the building, and I really think that boost up story was made up to cover fo the cop that could have taken a shot at the guy.

It’s totally possible.
There are reports also that the cop retreated down the ladder after the encounter with the shooter.
That’s interesting as well.
Eyewitnesses usually tell different stories, from what I’ve seen.

a reply to: Vermilion
Sorry, looking at the buildings from a different angle it seems the roof the shooter was on was on the lower building to the left so a boost might have been possible.

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a reply to: CarlLaFong


The Trump train is rolling along nicely at this point.

originally posted by: daskakik

Another interesting thing is that there is video of the guy in position. Someone with a phone got that,

I'm not sure if it's the same video, but there is one like you describe but in the audio you can hear a female voice shout "Crooks" several times as if she is pleading with him to come down.


Someone was with him calling his name.

originally posted by: 5thHead

originally posted by: daskakik

Another interesting thing is that there is video of the guy in position. Someone with a phone got that,

I'm not sure if it's the same video, but there is one like you describe but in the audio you can hear a female voice shout "Crooks" several times as if she is pleading with him to come down.


Someone was with him calling his name.

I would love to hear that clip.
Can you post please?

originally posted by: Annee
Square pegs do not fit into neatly created “round hole” scenarios — no matter the attempt.

That's not what they teach the children!!

Knock it off...
Spoken like a cultist, spoken like an anti-conspiratorial. Spoken like an anti-christian!
Guessing you are not a sheep you are herder? You won't, can't possibly be fooled?
I am right in that if you are a believer you can't possible be led astray right?
So 2 Peter 2:1-22 especially 2 Timothy 3:1, 2 Timothy 3: 1 Matthew 24:11 dang that Matthew sure seemed to think followers would be led astray but NOT you huh? Mark 13:5, Matthew 24:1-51, Matthew 24:5, Matthew 16:18...Oh just read Matthew but...you brother won't will you? Are you my brother? Are you? If it is dear brother only one question I ask of you it is found here and no where else and I am guess you will not answer?

John 8:44

If you cannot be fooled well gosh you are a chosen right? Or...

A. You are not a follower of Christ. (not the same as a christian sheep that pay into mega churches) Or maybe you are?

B. And here is where I hope the community of ATS is paying attention you are a agent of Chaos! You like to sew seeds of such as Gay Whales for no other reason the to "Chum" the water!

Am I wrong 'brother"?

double post

a reply to: daskakik

i was typing this up for your other post when i saw this one, so i replied to this one.

that's not the the building he was on, it's the one on the right in your picture, closest to the Butler Farm Show grounds. and he was on the other end above the front doors.

even then i'm gonna call bullsh@@ of vaulted up on the building itself, maybe up on the walk way between the two buildings but if there was a ladder why vault him up. but they could have come in from the other side which is where your image comes from/ i'll link the google street view for for the address of this building below, it's every bit of 12 15 foot high. walkway not so much

this screen shot is from the video below it, the building he was on is the left one, the shooter is blurred out you can see his rifle and i'd say it's a pack next to where the walkway goes between the two buildings and you can see the two story one in the back. you can also see the ladder, where ever it came from.



the video,



and another picture i found is is the same building as yours with a caption



google street view, you can drive around the American Glass Research Plant and see it all. you'll have to follow the drive way out of the parking lot turn left go to the red light turn left, keep looking and youll see the sign and a drive way on the lleft turn there, then go down through the parking lot and you will se the two story building.

starts from the front of the building that the shooter is on , you can see the red building the Secret Service sniper was on at the Butler Farm Show Trump Rally on the far left.

American Glass Research Google Street View.

watching a couple more videos. came across this one. i got to tell this is weird. the shooters folks are both behavioral counselors.

talks about his folks at the 4:01 mark.



i guess they missed somethng.

originally posted by: 5thHead
Someone was with him calling his name.

Yes, I'm sure it is the same one but I don't think she was "with him".

Probably just recognized who he was.

a reply to: BernnieJGato
In this video it shows the lower building is where he was.