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Half a million people march in London for Palestine

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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
An estimation by the police is not a fact.

Yes it is. The non biased professionals in charge of crowd control and who have the training to know crowd size say it was 100,000.

What is NOT a fact is your continued use of a socialist protestor claiming 300,000. That's NOT A FACT. That's just an OPINION from someone with an agenda. Same with your muslim OPINION from India of it being 500,000.

Your continued bizarre comment that police would purposely downsize a crowd number is absurd and unsubstantiated.

This is an example of why you have no credibility on ATS.



The largest anti-war demonstration in Britain since 2003, when over a million protested the illegal invasion of Iraq, saw 300,000 people march and rally in London Saturday against Israel’s war on Gaza.

The police ludicrously still tried to claim it was smaller than last week’s 150,000-strong demonstration, saying that around 100,000 attended. This vast playing down of its size was faithfully repeated by the media, including the Guardian


A very large demonstration indeed.

www.wsws.org...


And half a million throughout the U.K. - you need to work on your thread titles. lol

morningstaronline.co.uk...



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

You keep spamming that same OPINION PIECE from the socialist network. Their biased and unprofessional OPINION is NOT FACT. The non biased police official number IS FACT. 100,000. Not 300,000. Not 500,000. The FACT is 100,000, no matter how many times you spam the board with that socialist OPINION piece.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
The people who went there and probably have been to many other demonstrations and know about the real numbers and not what the police has given.


Biased socialist demonstrators in a crowd who have no training in crowd control do not know anything about 'real numbers'. To claim that they know more than the actual unbiased professionals in charge of crowd control is idiotic.



An estimation by the police is just an estimation
The police has an interest in downplaying the event for reasons of safety and security as well as public order and for discouraging others from participating (it makes it much easier to police a smaller crowd).



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Again, might said veteran agitators tend to be a little biased?

I mean, really?!! N



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
An estimation by the police is not a fact.

Yes it is. The non biased professionals in charge of crowd control and who have the training to know crowd size say it was 100,000.

What is NOT a fact is your continued use of a socialist protestor claiming 300,000. That's NOT A FACT. That's just an OPINION from someone with an agenda. Same with your muslim OPINION from India of it being 500,000.

Your continued bizarre comment that police would purposely downsize a crowd number is absurd and unsubstantiated.

This is an example of why you have no credibility on ATS.



The largest anti-war demonstration in Britain since 2003, when over a million protested the illegal invasion of Iraq, saw 300,000 people march and rally in London Saturday against Israel’s war on Gaza.

The police ludicrously still tried to claim it was smaller than last week’s 150,000-strong demonstration, saying that around 100,000 attended. This vast playing down of its size was faithfully repeated by the media, including the Guardian


A very large demonstration indeed.

www.wsws.org...


And half a million throughout the U.K. - you need to work on your thread titles. lol

morningstaronline.co.uk...


It says half a million demonstrated in London and not the UK

But I understand this is sarcastic



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4
An estimation by the police is just an estimation

It's a fact. Official unbiased crowd control professionals put the number at 100,000.

Your 'sources' are biased and inflating the numbers to suite their agenda.


The police has an interest in downplaying the event for reasons of safety and security as well as public order and for discouraging others from participating (it makes it much easier to police a smaller crowd).


WRONG. You continue to spam that as an excuse for your inflated numbers. There is ZERO evidence what you are saying is true. ZERO.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

You don't have a clue about Celtic supporters or the sort of things they chant, do you?



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Again, might said veteran agitators tend to be a little biased?

I mean, really?!!



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Oops!



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Here in darkest Wiltshire I'm seeing quite a few Ukrainian flags. Palestinian flags, not so much.


Slightly off topic... But there were many Palestinian flags in London and surprise surprise when Celtic played football a few nights ago. It was a great spectacle as the crowd was singing in support of Palestine (not Hamas)



Makes a change from them singing IRA songs I guess.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
An estimation by the police is not a fact.

Yes it is. The non biased professionals in charge of crowd control and who have the training to know crowd size say it was 100,000.

What is NOT a fact is your continued use of a socialist protestor claiming 300,000. That's NOT A FACT. That's just an OPINION from someone with an agenda. Same with your muslim OPINION from India of it being 500,000.

Your continued bizarre comment that police would purposely downsize a crowd number is absurd and unsubstantiated.

This is an example of why you have no credibility on ATS.



The largest anti-war demonstration in Britain since 2003, when over a million protested the illegal invasion of Iraq, saw 300,000 people march and rally in London Saturday against Israel’s war on Gaza.

The police ludicrously still tried to claim it was smaller than last week’s 150,000-strong demonstration, saying that around 100,000 attended. This vast playing down of its size was faithfully repeated by the media, including the Guardian


A very large demonstration indeed.

www.wsws.org...


And half a million throughout the U.K. - you need to work on your thread titles. lol

morningstaronline.co.uk...


It says half a million demonstrated in London and not the UK

But I understand this is sarcastic


Well one source says 300,000, another 100,000 and yet others are at half a million. What we should ask everyone here is to post several sources and not choose just one that may label us as biased or sensationalizing a thread.

Not sure why this is such a big issue here, some say it shows lack of credibility, but even at 100,000 that is a very large crowd and should not be dismissed.
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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
An estimation by the police is just an estimation

It's a fact. Official unbiased crowd control professionals put the number at 100,000.

Your 'sources' are biased and inflating the numbers to suite their agenda.


The police has an interest in downplaying the event for reasons of safety and security as well as public order and for discouraging others from participating (it makes it much easier to police a smaller crowd).


WRONG. You continue to spam that as an excuse for your inflated numbers. There is ZERO evidence what you are saying is true. ZERO.



Nope it's not a fact but just an estimation. The police has interest in downplaying these events. There are several sources that just refute the estimation.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

Spot on.

You can forgive him for not knowing that.

As well as lots of other things.




posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Yes, like from India, rabid Socialists, and so on?



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
What we should ask everyone here is to post several sources and not choose just one that may label us as biased or sensationalizing a thread. .

The police are the unbiased professionals who were in charge of crowd control and who have training in determining crowd size. There is no other source that is credible. The two listed by the OP in this thread are completely biased and agenda driven. The police have no such agenda or bias, no matter what the OP falsely claims otherwise.

100,000. The crowd was dispersed within three hours.

A large crowd for sure. But nothing close to half a million as falsely claimed.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan


morningstaronline.co.uk...


ANGER erupted on the streets of towns and cities across Britain this weekend as record numbers of protesters mobilised to demand a halt to Israel’s murderous attack on the population of Gaza.

Half a million marched in London in the capital’s biggest-ever protest for Palestine yesterday.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4
Nope it's not a fact but just an estimation.

No. Its' a fact.


The police has interest in downplaying these events.

Bullcrap.


There are several sources that just refute the estimation.

No credible unbiased ones that were active in crowd control that day and who are trained to know crowd size.

100,000
Not 300,000
Not 500,000
100,000



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: SprocketUK

Spot on.

You can forgive him for not knowing that.

As well as lots of other things.



If you try to claim that all Celtic Fans are associated with the IRA that's terrible. The did have many Palestinian Flags and the whole crowd was singing in support of Palestine. Likewise in London.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Oh look ... another biased agenda driven socialist outlet with an OPINION/PROPAGANDA.
They don't say where they get their number from. Pulled it out of their butt end no doubt.
Pffft.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
Nope it's not a fact but just an estimation.

No. Its' a fact.


The police has interest in downplaying these events.

Bullcrap.


There are several sources that just refute the estimation.

No credible unbiased ones that were active in crowd control that day and who are trained to know crowd size.

100,000
Not 300,000
Not 500,000
100,000


Nope it's just an estimation and as it seems it's an underestimation for obvious reasons


ANGER erupted on the streets of towns and cities across Britain this weekend as record numbers of protesters mobilised to demand a halt to Israel’s murderous attack on the population of Gaza.

Half a million marched in London in the capital’s biggest-ever protest for Palestine yesterday.


morningstaronline.co.uk...




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