Noahs Ark and the Biblical World Wide Flood Never Happened

originally posted by: cooperton
[ You think God would have commissioned someone who didn't know how to build boats?

1 - NO ONE knew how to build a boat that size in 2400bc Mesopotamia. That's a fact. So yeah .. If God picked Noah, then He indeed did pick someone who knew nothing about building the boat.

2 - According to the myth, God picked Noah based on his being a good person and not a sinner, the only one on the planet apparently, not because of the skills he supposedly had or didn't have.

Again .. you are making stuff up. Noah didn't know how to build a boat like that.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: FarmerSimulation

The paper and lumber industries of the time were the ones responsible for demonizing hemp, that's why, because as you know it can be used for all sorts of different purposes.

As to your disappeared sources, how very convenient.

Convenient for me?
The nutritional analysis is clearly there.
I guess you are stuck with using a critical thought process to determine its veracity in truth.
From Mesopotamia to this day there has never been a more important crop that helps humankind.

a reply to: FlyersFan

The longest wooden ship ever built, the six-masted New England gaff schooner Wyoming, had a "total length" of 137 metres (449 ft) (measured from tip of jibboom (30 metres) to tip of spanker boom (27 metres) and a "length on deck" of 107 m (351 ft).

This ship had a tendency to flex in heavy seas, causing the planks to twist and buckle due to their extreme length despite being fitted with metal bracing. Water was evacuated nearly constantly by steam pumps. It foundered in heavy seas with loss of all hands.

en.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=The%20longest%20wooden%20ship%20ever,107%20m%20(351%20ft).

And that's in 1909.

440ft long magic sex boats in the year of our lord 2400BCE.



Computer says "No".

Some people before Noah knew how to build the pyramids at Giza.
Knew enough that they chose a place on Earth that had a natural foundation for all that weight that would not sink after thousands of years.
An obvious intelligence than even today with computer technology.
I believe the legends it was built by Adam, Seth and Enoch.
These would have been the source and teachers for Noah

Brought up and ignored ... the polar bears.
Couldn't have swam/walked from the arctic to the Middle East.
Couldn't have taken the high temperatures of the Middle East.
If Noahs Ark were true .. the polar bear wouldn't have made it.
But it's here ... which means Noahs Ark isn't true.

Polar Bears
weather in ancient Mesopotamia

If polar bears get into temperatures of above 50 degrees with no way to cool down, they can have heat stress along with heat stroke, loss of appetite and weakness. Death can then happen.

Mesopotamia is semi arid and very hot. Summer temps are up to 110 degrees.

a reply to: andy06shake

My goodness. Must have had chronic cases of the runs!

Insufficient source of energy, carbs or essential vitamins.

Scurvy must have been a problem too.

Two tablespoons of hemp oil a day? They were lucky. We used to dream of two ....etc.

a reply to: FlyersFan

No.
God chose Noah because his blood was uncorrupted.
What Bible do you read for your source?

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

If you could simply provide credible evidence to support your claim ""communities survived for 2 years with 2 tablespoons of hemp seed oil per day."" it would be convenient for us.

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

Wheat?

originally posted by: andy06shake

The longest wooden ship ever built, the six-masted New England gaff schooner Wyoming, had a "total length" of 137 metres (449 ft) (measured from tip of jibboom (30 metres) to tip of spanker boom (27 metres) and a "length on deck" of 107 m (351 ft).

Yeah ... 1909.
THIS is a big boat from 2500bc.
Not even close to being Noahs Ark size.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
I believe the legends it was built by Adam, Seth and Enoch.
These would have been the source and teachers for Noah

1 - Adam, Seth and Enoch didn't exist.
2 - We know who built the pyramids, it wasn't them.
3 - No one in Noahs time knew how to build ships that big. NO ONE.

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

I don't think pyramids float much or hold animals for that matter, so there is that.

But braw attempt to shift the goalposts.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
a reply to: FlyersFan
No.
God chose Noah because his blood was uncorrupted.
What Bible do you read for your source?

Pick whatever you want ... a good man who didn't sin ... blood that was uncorrupted ... the point is that, according to the myth, he wasn't chosen for being a ship builder, and he wasn't chosen for his alleged skills. THAT is what was alleged by cooperton. That God chose based on skills.

Noah didn't know how to build the ark. NO ONE DID in 2400c.
A wooden ship with no metal?
A wooden ship that size?
And no learning on how to build it?
And no understanding of pitch and yaw and what currents do to boats etc?
And no understanding of stress on the different parts of the ship etc etc?
Pffft. Not possible.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I can mind my granny making me take a big tablespoon of castor oil when i was a lad, yuk.

Bagsy not playing airplane with the 1,800kg hippopotamus.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Even with today's tech ship's and air transport etc I doubt it we could locate two of every species of animal in the World and keep them alive on a ship.

Then there is the fact that two of each would not be viable to breed from.

They'd be hopelessly inbred.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
a reply to: FlyersFan
No.
God chose Noah because his blood was uncorrupted.
What Bible do you read for your source?

Pick whatever you want ... a good man who didn't sin ... blood that was uncorrupted ... the point is that, according to the myth, he wasn't chosen for being a ship builder, and he wasn't chosen for his alleged skills. THAT is what was alleged by cooperton. That God chose based on skills.

Noah didn't know how to build the ark. NO ONE DID in 2400c.
A wooden ship with no metal?
A wooden ship that size?
And no learning on how to build it?
And no understanding of pitch and yaw and what currents do to boats etc?
And no understanding of stress on the different parts of the ship etc etc?
Pffft. Not possible.

BTW.
The points, you do not read nor understand much about the Bible at all.
You pick as you wish to reinterpreted as you wish at anytime with anything based upon whim only.
You said it. Own it.
The Bible did not say that.
You did

Where in scripture does it say Noah never sinned?
Where do you get this from?
What Bible are you reading from?

a reply to: andy06shake

Top tip. If you have a cough, drink a bottle of castor oil.

You won't dare cough.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Then there is the fact that two of each would not be viable to breed from.

Why populations can't be saved by a single breeding pair

an effective population size of at least 50 individuals in a population is required.

To avoid eroding evolutionary potential (the ability of a population to evolve to cope with future environmental changes), an effective population of at least 500 is required.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: FlyersFan

Even with today's tech ship's and air transport etc I doubt it we could locate two of every species of animal in the World and keep them alive on a ship.

Then there is the fact that two of each would not be viable to breed from.

They'd be hopelessly inbred.

For mammals, most mammals, yes.
Inbreeding is a problem, que the Hapsburgh Dynasty for example.
But with things like poultry it is well known you can go about 6 generations with no trouble at all.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
you do not read nor understand much about the Bible at all.

I read it and understand it perfectly well.
The points I made have nothing to do with scripture.
They stand as historical and scientific fact.
here they are again-

Noah didn't know how to build the ark. NO ONE DID in 2400c.
A wooden ship with no metal?
A wooden ship that size?
And no learning on how to build it?
And no understanding of pitch and yaw and what currents do to boats etc?
And no understanding of stress on the different parts of the ship etc etc?
Pffft. Not possible

Where in scripture does it say Noah never sinned?

I didn't say that.
I said according to the myth he wasn't a sinful man.
He was a good man.
Otherwise, God wouldn't have saved him.

From Billy Graham

People laughed and mocked Noah, but through his obedience and faith in God, he was the first person in the Bible to be called righteous.