Noahs Ark and the Biblical World Wide Flood Never Happened

originally posted by: cooperton
Yeah he had the apex God of the universe helping him. How weak do you think God is? Sheesh, that's the secular leaven I am referring to. It's a slippery slope until you incidentally think God is totally powerless.

So now you are going to claim that God built the ark; God gathered the animals from all over the world; God gathered the food from all over the world; God gathered the massive amount of fresh water needed, ... and God then turned the ark into a Tardis making it bigger on the inside than it is on the outside in order to fit all this into it?

That's your answer to the FACT that there is no way that Noah could have built the ark that he knew nothing about AND gathered the animals from around the world AND gathered the food from around the world AND gathered the massive amount of fresh water ...

Ok once and for all I am putting this to rest. Here is a peer-reviewed study that say that koalas do eat other types of plants:

We already said they can eat other plants. They can't make a diet out of them, they NIBBLE on them. Their main diet is Eucalyptus. They HAVE TO HAVE IT or they DIE. What part of 'they die without it' don't you get?

"Because koalas are so specialized in their diet, they can face serious consequences if they are deprived of eucalyptus leaves. Generally, they can only survive a few days without eucalyptus before experiencing nutritional deficiencies and dehydration. If food deprivation continues, they can suffer from liver and digestive system diseases, and ultimately, death."

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: cooperton

"Admit that wood can last in water for over 100 years."

Of course it can. A ship being seaworthy is another thing entirely.

Which you conveniently ignore.

Glad we have at least made the step to "of course wood can preserve for 100 years", because flyersfan is still vehemently opposed to the obvious.

So the question now is would the ship still be in working condition, but given that the first time it actually was sitting in water was when the flood occurred, there's no reason to think it wouldn't have been prepared for day 1 of its year-long commission.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
We already said they can eat other plants. They can't make a diet out of them, they NIBBLE on them. Their main diet is Eucalyptus. They HAVE TO HAVE IT or they DIE. What part of 'they die without it' don't you get?

"Because koalas are so specialized in their diet, they can face serious consequences if they are deprived of eucalyptus leaves. Generally, they can only survive a few days without eucalyptus before experiencing nutritional deficiencies and dehydration. If food deprivation continues, they can suffer from liver and digestive system diseases, and ultimately, death."

That's not what peer-reviewed research says:

"More recently, it has been argued, on the basis of the large number of species from which koalas are now known to feed, that they are perhaps more generalist feeders than has been previously recognised. That koalas should eat the foliage of so many different species is not surprising – they do not select food on the basis of its taxonomy. Rather, a koala could be expected to eat any foliage with the appropriate morphology and chemistry to allow it to be recognised as palatable food. Just how fussy a koala’s diet selection is, then, should be considered in terms of those chemical properties relevant to its nutrition. "
source

As expected, Koalas can eat other food, they just prefer to eat eucalyptus.

originally posted by: cooperton
because flyersfan is still vehemently opposed to the obvious.

That would be YOU. Vehemently opposed to the obvious.
Here it is again - Koala DIE without eucalyptus leaves as their main diet
no matter how much they nibble on other things.

"Because koalas are so specialized in their diet, they can face serious consequences if they are deprived of eucalyptus leaves. Generally, they can only survive a few days without eucalyptus before experiencing nutritional deficiencies and dehydration. If food deprivation continues, they can suffer from liver and digestive system diseases, and ultimately, death."

originally posted by: FlyersFan

That would be YOU. Vehemently opposed to the obvious.
Here it is again - Koala DIE without eucalyptus leaves as their main diet
no matter how much they nibble on other things.

"Because koalas are so specialized in their diet, they can face serious consequences if they are deprived of eucalyptus leaves. Generally, they can only survive a few days without eucalyptus before experiencing nutritional deficiencies and dehydration. If food deprivation continues, they can suffer from liver and digestive system diseases, and ultimately, death."

You're basing that off some website, but that's not what peer-reviewed research says:

"More recently, it has been argued, on the basis of the large number of species from which koalas are now known to feed, that they are perhaps more generalist feeders than has been previously recognised. That koalas should eat the foliage of so many different species is not surprising – they do not select food on the basis of its taxonomy. Rather, a koala could be expected to eat any foliage with the appropriate morphology and chemistry to allow it to be recognised as palatable food. Just how fussy a koala’s diet selection is, then, should be considered in terms of those chemical properties relevant to its nutrition. "
source

As expected, Koalas can eat other food, they just prefer to eat eucalyptus.

a reply to: cooperton

Different species of Eucalyptus. Of which there are many.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: cooperton
As expected, Koalas can eat other food, they just prefer to eat eucalyptus.

It' not a preference. It's a diet REQUIREMENT. They die without it.

"Because koalas are so specialized in their diet, they can face serious consequences if they are deprived of eucalyptus leaves. Generally, they can only survive a few days without eucalyptus before experiencing nutritional deficiencies and dehydration. If food deprivation continues, they can suffer from liver and digestive system diseases, and ultimately, death."

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: cooperton

Different species of Eucalyptus. Of which there are many.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

No they specifically mention that they eat non-eucalypts:

"koalas were observed sitting in, or eating from, 69 different eucalypts and almost 30 non-eucalypts."

link

a reply to: cooperton

"As expected, Koalas can eat other food, they just prefer to eat eucalyptus."

Says you, not your source. Which you seem to have skimmed to quote selectively and out of context.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: cooperton

"As expected, Koalas can eat other food, they just prefer to eat eucalyptus."

Says you, not your source. Which you seem to have skimmed to quote selectively and out of context.

"koalas were observed sitting in, or eating from, 69 different eucalypts and almost 30 non-eucalypts."

link

a reply to: cooperton

They still die without it though.

That's a fact.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: cooperton

They still die without it though.

That's a fact.

Nope, they are finding that they are more generalist eaters than previously thought:

"More recently, it has been argued, on the basis of the large number of species from which koalas are now known to feed, that they are perhaps more generalist feeders than has been previously recognised. That koalas should eat the foliage of so many different species is not surprising – they do not select food on the basis of its taxonomy. Rather, a koala could be expected to eat any foliage with the appropriate morphology and chemistry to allow it to be recognised as palatable food. Just how fussy a koala’s diet selection is, then, should be considered in terms of those chemical properties relevant to its nutrition. "

a reply to: cooperton

I hope you don't have pets. You'd kill them withholding water and feeding them crap their systems can't handle.

bescienced.com...

"Because koalas are so specialized in their diet, they can face serious consequences if they are deprived of eucalyptus leaves. Generally, they can only survive a few days without eucalyptus before experiencing nutritional deficiencies and dehydration. If food deprivation continues, they can suffer from liver and digestive system diseases, and ultimately, death.".

What Do Koalas Eat
Britannica Koalas
Save the Koala

There was no way Koalas could have made it from Australia to the Middle East, and there was no way Noah could have gone and gotten them ... so thankfully there weren't any on the imaginary ark getting fed crap that would have killed them anyways.

a reply to: cooperton

None so blind as them that won't see.

Or read properly.

What do Pandas eat?

a reply to: FlyersFan

Polar bears couldn't survive in a different climate either.

a reply to: cooperton

Nibbling.

a reply to: cooperton

Given up on your HMS Victory stuff, then?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Polar bears couldn't survive in a different climate either.

Polar Bears
weather in ancient Mesopotamia

If polar bears get into temperatures of above 50 degrees with no way to cool down, they can have heat stress along with heat stroke, loss of appetite and weakness. Death can then happen.

Mesopotamia is semi arid and very hot. Summer temps are up to 110 degrees.

Polar bears wouldn't have made it.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Oh you, with your facts, science and logic......

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: cooperton

Given up on your HMS Victory stuff, then?

What? No. It proves wood vessels can last for 163 in the water. That's why flyersfan is changing the topic, because they know its an obvious fact at this point that wood can preserve for over 100 years

originally posted by: FlyersFan

"Because koalas are so specialized in their diet, they can face serious consequences if they are deprived of eucalyptus leaves. Generally, they can only survive a few days without eucalyptus before experiencing nutritional deficiencies and dehydration. If food deprivation continues, they can suffer from liver and digestive system diseases, and ultimately, death.".

What Do Koalas Eat
Britannica Koalas
Save the Koala

There was no way Koalas could have made it from Australia to the Middle East, and there was no way Noah could have gone and gotten them ... so thankfully there weren't any on the imaginary ark getting fed crap that would have killed them anyways.

None of your sources are peer-reviewed research. The empirical data says they eat other foods:

"More recently, it has been argued, on the basis of the large number of species from which koalas are now known to feed, that they are perhaps more generalist feeders than has been previously recognised. That koalas should eat the foliage of so many different species is not surprising – they do not select food on the basis of its taxonomy. Rather, a koala could be expected to eat any foliage with the appropriate morphology and chemistry to allow it to be recognised as palatable food. Just how fussy a koala’s diet selection is, then, should be considered in terms of those chemical properties relevant to its nutrition. "
link

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: cooperton

I hope you don't have pets. You'd kill them withholding water and feeding them crap their systems can't handle.

I would bet you feed your pets dry homogenized meat goo lol. This and other westernized idiocy is what prevents you from assessing reality properly.