Majority of Americans think businesses shouldn't take political-social stances on current events

originally posted by: Annee
I choose WOKE. It is the future.

It is a self eating pizza.
Doomed to implode.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Salamandy
a reply to: quintessentone

unless you are involved in the woke game and profit from it, who really has time for politics at work?

Not so much the being awake game rather in keeping up with a changing culture...keep up or go down.

Respectfully if the culture changed enough nobody would be going to those businesses and they wouldn't have to be protested or cancelled.

Instead, they do have clientele and a viable business but unless they conform and have a rainbow flag instead of an American one they are subject to ridicule harassment, or worse. Just because a percentage of people feel disrespected doesn't give them the right to destroy a business.

Because where we are at now we are so evenly split, they can't cancel a business with just a boycott, now it has to be on social media, and both sides do this.

Sure neighborhood activists used to work great when it's a strip club or porn shop, LOL now a church will get chased off if it tries to open up on an atheist's turf.



I don't care what a business does as long as it is legal.

It does not boil down to LGBTQ vs. American ideology, whatever that was or is or will be, it's churches and schools not allowing a weed shop to open up close by, it's calling out a toxic or unfair boss, it's demanding fair wages, it's calling out sexual predators, it's calling out bias and hate everywhere including free speech when it harms others, so if you don't want to conform then nobody is forcing you, unless your principles trump your business' bottom line.

The point is whether to conform or not to conform is your individual choice and the clientelle will let you know in short order whether or not that your choice was the right choice for them.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Annee

The only people not being "accepted" into society are those that expect and demand to be treated differently and better than everyone else.

Take a look around grandma, this aint the 60s.

Do you mean like your conservative elitist politicians?

a reply to: quintessentone

More incorrect assumptions, typical

I own no one

a reply to: CanadianLoudMouth

Depends on what you consider social/political issues I guess? To me, having a trans person on the ol' Bud promo was neither political nor social. It was a move to show they are inclusive towards all their consumers?

It was more than that. It was overkill to put Dylan's face on a six pack of beer cans and send them to him/her to celebrate the anniversary of a man living as a woman for a year. They were marketing it as a celebration and not just to be inclusive.

Would you be offended if Bud Light next had a black person promoting their product? Same deal.

That depends. If they sent a black man a six pack of beer with the face of a white woman on it claiming they were sending it to him to celebrate his 1st anniversary of identifying as a white woman, then yes.

I have no problem with companies trying to be inclusive, but do they have to encourage and celebrate fake identities? You can accept people for who they are without promoting their lifestyle.

I guess it depends on perception then. I saw the actions of BL as nothing more than trying to be inclusive. Fair enough, to each their own!

I guess it depends on perception then. I saw the actions of BL as nothing more than trying to be inclusive. Fair enough, to each their own!

a reply to: Muldar

I would agree it is better as well. But this doesn't really provide any context to how that comes about.

It has to be their choice to not affiliate. They have to choose not to pander. Pissed off shareholders speak loud enough, let their value bring them to a non-affiliated corporate identity.

I hope they preserve a business' right, small or large, private owned or publicly traded, corporate structure or not, to still choose to affiliate or not.

I don't agree with more regulation to enforce businesses take an apolitical stance. As compulsory non-afilliation is a greater form of censorship in my mind.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Muldar

I would agree it is better as well. But this doesn't really provide any context to how that comes about.

It has to be their choice to not affiliate. They have to choose not to pander. Pissed off shareholders speak loud enough, let their value bring them to a non-affiliated corporate identity.

I hope they preserve a business' right, small or large, private owned or publicly traded, corporate structure or not, to still choose to affiliate or not.

I don't agree with more regulation to enforce businesses take an apolitical stance. As compulsory non-afilliation is a greater form of censorship in my mind.

But that would have to apply to everyone equally. For example, the baker that refused to bake a cake for a gay couple getting married. Sorry, if you aren't allowed to be political that has to apply in all directions.....

originally posted by: Deetermined

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Salamandy
a reply to: quintessentone

unless you are involved in the woke game and profit from it, who really has time for politics at work?

Not so much the being awake game rather in keeping up with a changing culture...keep up or go down.

Let's not kid ourselves. The current young generation and their need for changing culture is going to be the death of all of us, including themselves, because they don't know how to think critically.

Said every older generation since the beginning of civilization...

originally posted by: TheToastmanCometh
a reply to: Muldar

i mean we see this every "pride" month

all US businesses are rainbowed out, but their posts in middle east/china/russia?

It's true.
They shouldn't and they should mind their business. Giving support to the LGBTQ+ ideology and culture is a terrible mistake.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The Gen Z is trying to 'fix' the toxicity in workplaces,

And what imagined 'toxicity in workplaces' are you talking about???

You mean like geezer bosses hitting on the young women employees constantly? Or hitting on the young guys as well.

And asking "do you like working here"

I actually got locked in a closet once. Not sure how he thought that was gonna make me change my mind.

Ahhhh, the "Good Old Days" - (unfortunately still with us today).

I'm all for businesses taking a Social/Political stance for protection of their employees.

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: Deetermined

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Salamandy
a reply to: quintessentone

unless you are involved in the woke game and profit from it, who really has time for politics at work?

Not so much the being awake game rather in keeping up with a changing culture...keep up or go down.

Let's not kid ourselves. The current young generation and their need for changing culture is going to be the death of all of us, including themselves, because they don't know how to think critically.

Said every older generation since the beginning of civilization...

Not really.

But you should be very concerned when this generation believes there are 156 genders and that business must support the cause and spread the word of this retarded ideology.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The Gen Z is trying to 'fix' the toxicity in workplaces,

And what imagined 'toxicity in workplaces' are you talking about???

You mean like geezer bosses hitting on the young women employees constantly? Or hitting on the young guys as well.

And asking "do you like working here"

I actually got locked in a closet once. Not sure how he thought that was gonna make me change my mind.

Ahhhh, the "Good Old Days" - (unfortunately still with us today).

I'm all for businesses taking a Social/Political stance for protection of their employees.

Let the business take a social political stance and support the existence of the 156 genders and of transhumans...

Why not then support and promote the existence of hobgoblins and of Mothman....

a reply to: Muldar

Plenty of evidence for Mothman.

"Transhumans"?

I don't think that means what you think it does.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The Gen Z is trying to 'fix' the toxicity in workplaces,

And what imagined 'toxicity in workplaces' are you talking about???

You mean like geezer bosses hitting on the young women employees constantly? Or hitting on the young guys as well.

And asking "do you like working here"

I actually got locked in a closet once. Not sure how he thought that was gonna make me change my mind.

Ahhhh, the "Good Old Days" - (unfortunately still with us today).

I'm all for businesses taking a Social/Political stance for protection of their employees.

As a SAG member, I can attest to the idea of the "Casting couch" being a real thing. Some projects get closed down by young women filing charges against the casting agent and production company.

Union Strong, Union Proud...we protect our members!!!

originally posted by: Muldar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The Gen Z is trying to 'fix' the toxicity in workplaces,

And what imagined 'toxicity in workplaces' are you talking about???

You mean like geezer bosses hitting on the young women employees constantly? Or hitting on the young guys as well.

And asking "do you like working here"

I actually got locked in a closet once. Not sure how he thought that was gonna make me change my mind.

Ahhhh, the "Good Old Days" - (unfortunately still with us today).

I'm all for businesses taking a Social/Political stance for protection of their employees.

Let the business take a social political stance and support the existence of the 156 genders and of transhumans...

This 156 recurring obsession of yours makes me question your motives. Iv'e never heard of this 156 genders you seem familiar with.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Muldar

Plenty of evidence for Mothman.

"Transhumans"?

I don't think that means what you think it does.

If tit have evidence for Mothman then create a thread.

Let's say transgenders or transsexuals in case there is a misunderstanding (deliberate)...


Here it is I fixed it for you...

Let the business take a social political stance and support the existence of the 156 genders and of transsexuals....

Why not then support and promote the existence of hobgoblins and of Mothman....

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Muldar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The Gen Z is trying to 'fix' the toxicity in workplaces,

And what imagined 'toxicity in workplaces' are you talking about???

You mean like geezer bosses hitting on the young women employees constantly? Or hitting on the young guys as well.

And asking "do you like working here"

I actually got locked in a closet once. Not sure how he thought that was gonna make me change my mind.

Ahhhh, the "Good Old Days" - (unfortunately still with us today).

I'm all for businesses taking a Social/Political stance for protection of their employees.

Let the business take a social political stance and support the existence of the 156 genders and of transhumans...

This 156 recurring obsession of yours makes me question your motives. Just sayin....

Why?

I am not the one who is promoting transgenderism through coorporate capitalism...

It's these businesses! The topic of this thread may I remind you.

a reply to: Muldar

Errr... You mentioned Mothman?

You also mentioned "transhumans".

No one believes in or obsessives about your 156 gender nonsense.

I don't have any issue with transexuals.

May I respectfully suggest you go watch the Rocky Horror Show?

And get a sense of humour?