Majority of Americans think businesses shouldn't take political-social stances on current events

a reply to: quintessentone

I think it is that the upcoming generations are smarter than the older generations and they are the ones that will have the power, if they don't already, to shape society and the world in a more positive and healthful way that benefits the majority of humanity. Stay awake, stay relevant.

This is where it gets interesting. I really must know what ways you consider to be "positive and healthful", while still being realistic. Mark my words, "realistic" is always going to be a thorn in your side, just like it is for us today. Utopian ideals don't result in realistic long term or sustainable change for the better.

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: quintessentone

I think it is that the upcoming generations are smarter than the older generations and they are the ones that will have the power, if they don't already, to shape society and the world in a more positive and healthful way that benefits the majority of humanity. Stay awake, stay relevant.

This is where it get interesting. I really must know what ways you consider to be "positive and healthful", while still being realistic. Mark my words, "realistic" is always going to be a thorn in your side, just like it is for us today. Utopian ideals don't result in realistic long term or sustainable change for the better.

As I said previously it is evolving and I can't see the future. Interesting times ahead, for sure.

a reply to: network dude

True, but it depends on the subject of their stance.

They are free to have opinions.

Odd how some supposed champions of free speech want them silenced?

originally posted by: Annee
I'd rather be WOKE than STUCK.

Woke isn't 'progressive'. Woke ideology is marxism. It's old as dirt.
Marxism with a shiny new candy coating to make it slide down
better for the sheep that eat it up.

a reply to: FlyersFan

"Woke ideology is marxism".

No, it isn't.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Muldar

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Muldar

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Muldar

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Muldar

originally posted by: quintessentone
Another viewpoint - cancel culture steps in to protect us all:

Dismissed

lol You can't dismiss societal changing morals and norms, and the power of ordinary people's cancelling power.

No such change exists.
A small minority tries to impose their 'values' and 'ideals'.

So again, dismissed!

Pay close attention to how upcoming generations refuse to take part in the failing societal framework and speak up and use cancel culture, then you will get a rude awakening.

Once the propaganda and indoctrination are taken out of schools and universities then they will be normalised. The upcoming generations won't be as retarded as this one where they think (at least some of them) there are 156 genders.

Normalized? Nothing is normal...all is evolving, except for some people, that is.

Nope!

It's abnormal.

They're infected with the woke virus and that's have an impact in perception and critical ability. Huge impact.

I think it is that the upcoming generations are smarter than the older generations and they are the ones that will have the power, if they don't already, to shape society and the world in a more positive and healthful way that benefits the majority of humanity. Stay awake, stay relevant.

I think it is that the upcoming generations are smarter than the older generations

Nope.
They like their stuff "cool" and "pretty" .
Nevermind whether it works or not.

a reply to: FlyersFan

i see us following Bellocs prediction that liberalism would merge socialism and capitalism in what would become a tool to enslave everyone, we learnt it was called fascism and in its worse incarnation was called nazism, not sure which one face is on show at the moment but the merger is obvious as most of the main talking points are coporatist.

a reply to: Gothmog

not possible with the prevalent declinist culture they'll be to focused on being angry at being cold and hungry..

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: FlyersFan

"Woke ideology is marxism".

No, it isn't.

That may be correct, as the idea is socialist as they have to belong to the collective. I.E. Borg style.
Everyone following everyone else, straight over the edge of the cliff. (and luvin it.)

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: olaru12
As a business owner....if politics affects my business I should just keep my mouth shut? Freedom of speech dosen't apply to businesses?

you are totally free to piss off half of your clientele at any point. It's epically stupid to do that, but you can if you like.

That's brilliant!! Thanks for the tip!!

My business revolves around repeat customers. My net last year was astonishing and need more sales people but no one wants to work on min.wage plus commission. I may need to let the union gigs go....

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
"Woke ideology is marxism".
No, it isn't.

Oh yes it is.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Oh no it isn't!

Etc.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: quintessentone

I think it is that the upcoming generations are smarter than the older generations and they are the ones that will have the power, if they don't already, to shape society and the world in a more positive and healthful way that benefits the majority of humanity. Stay awake, stay relevant.

This is where it get interesting. I really must know what ways you consider to be "positive and healthful", while still being realistic. Mark my words, "realistic" is always going to be a thorn in your side, just like it is for us today. Utopian ideals don't result in realistic long term or sustainable change for the better.

As I said previously it is evolving and I can't see the future. Interesting times ahead, for sure.

IMO -- people today are more real.

The "role playing/programming" of past generations is dying out.

Marketing/Politics -- can't be separated.

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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: quintessentone

I think it is that the upcoming generations are smarter than the older generations and they are the ones that will have the power, if they don't already, to shape society and the world in a more positive and healthful way that benefits the majority of humanity. Stay awake, stay relevant.

This is where it get interesting. I really must know what ways you consider to be "positive and healthful", while still being realistic. Mark my words, "realistic" is always going to be a thorn in your side, just like it is for us today. Utopian ideals don't result in realistic long term or sustainable change for the better.

As I said previously it is evolving and I can't see the future. Interesting times ahead, for sure.

IMO -- people today are more real.

The "role playing/programming" of past generations is dying out.

Marketing/Politics -- can't be separated.

I agree and I was just having this discussion with my mechanic's administrator about how we old geezers were so programmed and role playing...well we must have suddenly become 'woke' too because we are both looking for the escape hatch.

Do you recall some movies with scenes in barber shops, now tell me discussing politics and other controversial subjects were not the main attraction? lol

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: quintessentone

I think it is that the upcoming generations are smarter than the older generations and they are the ones that will have the power, if they don't already, to shape society and the world in a more positive and healthful way that benefits the majority of humanity. Stay awake, stay relevant.

This is where it gets interesting. I really must know what ways you consider to be "positive and healthful", while still being realistic. Mark my words, "realistic" is always going to be a thorn in your side, just like it is for us today. Utopian ideals don't result in realistic long term or sustainable change for the better.

I can't hold myself in relation to the comment made about the upcoming generations being smarter then the old ones.

That's why they believe there are 156 genders? You have to be very 'smart' or let's say a 'genius' to have realised that gender isn't binary as it was propagandised in schools by right wing scientists...

How many businesses have teen a stance on matters that involve gender 'identity', trans issues, LGBTQ issues, etc. They should not take any stance of social and political matters.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: FlyersFan

"Woke ideology is marxism".

No, it isn't.

as Belloc put it in his book its closer to fascism in its more pleasant incarnation while Orwell saw is it as closer to Nazism in its worst incarnation, its what happens to liberalism in the extreme when it merges social and capitalism to remain relevant which it has had to after 2007/8 demonstrated neoliberalism had failed.

a reply to: Muldar

5 secs of tictok is all that is needed to see future generations are the same as every other one before them and will make the exact same mistakes..

man who claims to be a woman with woman who claims to be a man while it sounds nonsensical the reality is they don't want to be seen as being boring just as every generation before them hated being seen as boring..

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: quintessentone

I think it is that the upcoming generations are smarter than the older generations and they are the ones that will have the power, if they don't already, to shape society and the world in a more positive and healthful way that benefits the majority of humanity. Stay awake, stay relevant.

This is where it get interesting. I really must know what ways you consider to be "positive and healthful", while still being realistic. Mark my words, "realistic" is always going to be a thorn in your side, just like it is for us today. Utopian ideals don't result in realistic long term or sustainable change for the better.

As I said previously it is evolving and I can't see the future. Interesting times ahead, for sure.

IMO -- people today are more real.

The "role playing/programming" of past generations is dying out.

Marketing/Politics -- can't be separated.

Do you recall some movies with scenes in barber shops, now tell me discussing politics and other controversial subjects were not the main attraction? lol

Comparing a barber shop conversation to a corporate entity having opinions and stances on politics and social topics are two completely different things.

Having a conversation in a barber shop is no different than you and your brother sitting at dinner talking about your GFs.

a reply to: Annee

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