Going to Heaven

a reply to: randomuser

Wonderful post. I enjoyed reading it and congrats for getting back on topic. Apologies, for derailing quite a bit. I'll perhaps return back to it after some rest, if I find something useful to add. From this reply here, it seems there are things to ponder that you bring up.

I have heard that some believe on the idea at the resurrection, those who died in their sins might have another chance to believe and have eternal life. I'd actually love to believe this idea, but it must be biblical to hold any weight. Far too often, something resembling truth predicated on seemingly loving or righteous ideas could contain dangerous ideas by implication or to lead astray.

I'd love to believe the idea nonetheless, but, not by my will, by God's, of course.

Questions.

1. Is this a catholic idea from text that aren't cannon?
2. How then will they be saved? Since they see God and Christ - it will no longer be by Faith, for that is for things unseen, the hope therein. For in this church age, God, in His wisdom deemed that the path to everlasting life and there is a lot of interesting and unfathomable ideas and reasons I've uncovered for this, but I digress.
3. You mention, they will be tested to see how they respond - this could address the issue of faith then, for it'd have to be different, the only other answer, would then be works. Some believe, in Jacob's trouble, when dealing with Israel at the end times, works will be inititaed again - this could explain scripture like Hebrews 10 (I forgot the lines - but saying no longer remains sacrfice for sins, for then, works when be needed, but that is impossible.
4. If it ain't faith, how can it be works then, since it never worked.


Aside from this, is there scripture concerning, they will get another chance to be saved? I'd love to study it.

If not, what gives you this idea?

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: TTU77

originally posted by: Cwantas

Of course truth in the heart of those who can see? Who do you suppose Christ was speaking too? the billions of blind believers like you? did He speak in parables for the blind like you?

Cwantas, I don't know if you are a believer, if so, apologies, if I was too harsh, I beg apologies, especially if you read what I wrote and took it seriosly.

I will clarify, since you say you are a believer, which I hope and would never dare to question, but I will seek to correct if I notice some knowledge a foot.

The Word of God, His Light, yes, in one's heart, that of course is truth, and only things corresponding to that are truth.

One cannot make up ones own truth. The bible is truth. Only that can serve as the foundation to live our lives on, to test spriits, and all other doctrines and beliefs, to see if its inline with truth.

You did not distinguish this, which is vital when talking about "truth".

The Bible is not truth, Christ told you that this earth belongs to the evil one and you believe that truth is handed to you here in this place?

Aplogies, I will not go back on forth on cleary issues that are a direct afront to the bible. I said my peace. May God be with you.

You clearly contradict yourself. If the bible is not true, why do you lay forth the truth claim in the bible that it says the world is in the evil ones hand?

If the bible is untrue, how is only that true?

Is that the only part of the bible you consider to be true? And how backwards your mind is and faithless you are to use text in the bible to offshoot you unto damnable heresies like gnosticism that contradict the bible.

Whats the matter with you? There is no reason or logic. I pray for truth in your heart.

You will need to share much, much, more of your believes and why you belief them and the reason for your hope in them (is there hope in gnosticism) for me to be consider replying further to your childish truth claims.

a reply to: Cwantas

The Bible is not truth, Christ told you that this earth belongs to the evil one and you believe that truth is handed to you here in this place?

I believe you're using the wrong word Earth when it should be world.
But you can't get the right answer by asking the wrong question as it were.

Try asking yourself if the Supreme Creator of the universe and everything that
lives and breathes under Heaven. The one true Creator, Lord of Hosts,
God Almighty is capable of providing his word to this world exactly as
he prefers it?

God created the Earth so it belongs to him alone. It is the world upon it
that is shaped by man as well as unseen forces. All the kingdoms are of
the world brother. Not a part of the created Earth.

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: Cwantas

The Bible is not truth, Christ told you that this earth belongs to the evil one and you believe that truth is handed to you here in this place?

I believe you're using the wrong word Earth when it should be world.
But you can't get the right answer by asking the wrong question as it were.

Try asking yourself if the Supreme Creator of the universe and everything that
lives and breathes under Heaven. The one true Creator, Lord of Hosts,
God Almighty is capable of providing his word to this world exactly as
he prefers it?

God created the Earth so it belongs to him alone. It is the world upon it
that is shaped by man as well as unseen forces. All the kingdoms are of
the world brother. Not a part of the created Earth.

Amen, this is precisely the right question.

The God who created the universe, is he able and/or willing to share his Word with us?

Perfect.

Step 2. How would we know it's his word, and not mans?

I await your answer cwantas.

originally posted by: TTU77
a reply to: randomuser

Wonderful post. I enjoyed reading it and congrats for getting back on topic. Apologies, for derailing quite a bit. I'll perhaps return back to it after some rest, if I find something useful to add. From this reply here, it seems there are things to ponder that you bring up.

I have heard that some believe on the idea at the resurrection, those who died in their sins might have another chance to believe and have eternal life. I'd actually love to believe this idea, but it must be biblical to hold any weight. Far too often, something resembling truth predicated on seemingly loving or righteous ideas could contain dangerous ideas by implication or to lead astray.

I'd love to believe the idea nonetheless, but, not by my will, by God's, of course.

Questions.

1. Is this a catholic idea from text that aren't cannon?
2. How then will they be saved? Since they see God and Christ - it will no longer be by Faith, for that is for things unseen, the hope therein. For in this church age, God, in His wisdom deemed that the path to everlasting life and there is a lot of interesting and unfathomable ideas and reasons I've uncovered for this, but I digress.
3. You mention, they will be tested to see how they respond - this could address the issue of faith then, for it'd have to be different, the only other answer, would then be works. Some believe, in Jacob's trouble, when dealing with Israel at the end times, works will be inititaed again - this could explain scripture like Hebrews 10 (I forgot the lines - but saying no longer remains sacrfice for sins, for then, works when be needed, but that is impossible.
4. If it ain't faith, how can it be works then, since it never worked.


Aside from this, is there scripture concerning, they will get another chance to be saved? I'd love to study it.

If not, what gives you this idea?

It is a pleasure to discourse with you further. Before I write my reply I made a request of our Father in heaven that he guide me to say the right things, and open your mind and heart with his holy spirit to see the things that are being revealed to you here.

Why are certain ones given the hope to go to heaven? The Bible says it is to rule as kings and priests with Jesus Christ. Now kings rule over subjects. Those who live on earth:

"You made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”-Revelation 5:10.

Jesus is king of God's kingdom in heaven. He told us to pray that this kingdom government come to earth and that God's will be done on earth as it is in the heaven. When that time comes he will wage war against the wicked and do away with them at the battle of Armageddon and abyss Satan and his demons for the 1,000 years.

At that time Jesus said there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and unrighteous:

"Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment."-John 5:28-29.

This is not the resurrection to heavenly life. This is the resurrection to life on earth. All the righteous people of old who died faithful in God's memory will partake in the resurrection of the righteous. The majority of humankind never knew God, never knew the covenants, and never knew or heard of Jesus Christ. These evil people will be granted mercy, they will be resurrected and then taught the truth about God and Jesus Christ. And then they will be allowed to take their stand either for or against God. This is a resurrection of judgement. They will be judged on how they respond to the truth that is revealed to them at that time. The evildoer at Jesus' side would be included in that resurrection. He did not have time to exercise faith in Jesus' ransom. In fact he died along with Jesus.

Daniel 12 talks about that time. Verse 1 starts out with the great tribulation (called the "time of distress"). And Michael will stand up on behalf of his people, and everyone righteous (this is those of the great crowd) who will get away safe. They will survive Armageddon into God's new world of peace on earth. They do not partake of the first resurrection. These will never die. Verse 2 talks of the resurrection that will then happen:

"And many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up, some to everlasting life and others to reproach and to everlasting contempt."-Daniel 12:2.

At that time all those in God's memory both righteous and evil who are asleep in the dust of the earth will be woken up! They will get a resurrection. Some to everlasting life, as they will exercise faith in the things heard. Other to everlasting contempt. This shows us that not all will avail themselves of the second chance at life that they are given.

That this is on earth read Revelation 21:3-4:

"With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

At that time God will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death and mourning and outry and pain will be no more.

These things do not exist in heaven with God. This is referring to the future paradise earth under Jesus kingdom rule.

Psalms foretold:

"But the meek will possess the earth,
And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace."
-Psalm 37:10.

The meek will inherit the earth! And they will live forever on it!:

"The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it."
-Psalm 37:29.

Jesus has two folds, one flock:

“And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd."-John 10:16.

The little flock has the heavenly hope. The other sheep, who are NOT of those who have received the calling to heavenly life will inherit everlasting life on God's paradise earth.

originally posted by: TTU77
a reply to: randomuser

Wonderful post. I enjoyed reading it and congrats for getting back on topic. Apologies, for derailing quite a bit. I'll perhaps return back to it after some rest, if I find something useful to add. From this reply here, it seems there are things to ponder that you bring up.

I have heard that some believe on the idea at the resurrection, those who died in their sins might have another chance to believe and have eternal life. I'd actually love to believe this idea, but it must be biblical to hold any weight. Far too often, something resembling truth predicated on seemingly loving or righteous ideas could contain dangerous ideas by implication or to lead astray.

I'd love to believe the idea nonetheless, but, not by my will, by God's, of course.

Questions.

1. Is this a catholic idea from text that aren't cannon?
2. How then will they be saved? Since they see God and Christ - it will no longer be by Faith, for that is for things unseen, the hope therein. For in this church age, God, in His wisdom deemed that the path to everlasting life and there is a lot of interesting and unfathomable ideas and reasons I've uncovered for this, but I digress.
3. You mention, they will be tested to see how they respond - this could address the issue of faith then, for it'd have to be different, the only other answer, would then be works. Some believe, in Jacob's trouble, when dealing with Israel at the end times, works will be inititaed again - this could explain scripture like Hebrews 10 (I forgot the lines - but saying no longer remains sacrfice for sins, for then, works when be needed, but that is impossible.
4. If it ain't faith, how can it be works then, since it never worked.


Aside from this, is there scripture concerning, they will get another chance to be saved? I'd love to study it.

If not, what gives you this idea?

For the second part of your question. It is only by faith that we are saved. But that does not mean we can do what we want. Paul, after listing all of the trials, and tribulations, and hardships he went through said this:

"Therefore, the way I am running is not aimlessly; the way I am aiming my blows is so as not to be striking the air; 27 but I pummel my body and lead it as a slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself should not become disapproved somehow"-1 Corinthians 9:26-27.

Whether a Christian is of the earthly or the heavenly hope they must remain faithful to God until the end. Jesus said:

"But the one who has endured to the end will be saved."-Matthew 24:13.

You can have faith. But if it does not move you to act. It is of no benefit to you. God will not save a wicked person just because they have faith Jesus Christ died for their sins. They need to act on that faith. The demons believe in God, but that does not mean they are NOT going to be destroyed. They believe in God and shudder at the very mention of his Most Holy name Jehovah:

"You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder."-James 2:19.

James talks of the trials and tribulations this way:

"Consider it all joy, my brothers, when you meet with various trials, knowing as you do that this tested quality of your faith produces endurance. But let endurance complete its work, so that you may be complete and sound in all respects, not lacking in anything."-James 1:2-4.

Peter talking about the tests of the Christian faith Satan puts before him this way:

"Because of this you are greatly rejoicing, though for a short time, if it must be, you have been distressed by various trials,  in order that the tested quality of your faith, of much greater value than gold that perishes despite its being tested by fire, may be found a cause for praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ."-1 Peter 1:6-7.

Jesus said he was going to war with and destroy any anointed Christian that fell away from the faith and did not return:

"So repent. If you do not, I am coming to you quickly, and I will war against them with the long sword of my mouth."-Revelation 2:16.

This was in his vision given to John to the congregation of anointed Christians in Pergamum. Jesus knows all of his real followers, and all of those called and anointed with holy spirit. Every one of them by name. And he observes them. Some fall away from the truth and from the faith. Jesus urges them to repent and return, otherwise he will war against them with the long sword of his mouth. Jesus will wage war with his sword against any anointed who do not remain loyal to him, those found disloyal at his return will be destroyed along with all the rest of wicked humanity.

a reply to: randomuser

I've got a question:

The dichotomy between heaven and Earth:
1) Jesus and the 144,000 in heaven, ruling.

2) The rest of people on Earth, like forever, ruled over.

Question: Do the twain meet?

A quick scan of Revelation chapters 21 and 22, seem to indicate that a city made of material things like gold and precious stones comes out of heaven to be on Earth. There is a river and a tree but no temple, because God and the lamb are the temple. "Now the dwelling of God is with men".

And even kings of the Earth enter the city, bringing material goods.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
a reply to: randomuser

Heaven is a place outside of our time construct.

Our names were written in the Lambs Book of Life before the foundation of the world.

I believe it’s impossible to determine what happens when in Heaven.

Ah Ha.... i can work with these stepstones ==

'heaven' is not a place as much as a 'field' such as the Quantum Field or Dark Matter.... best look for heaven at Sagittarius A the black hole at center of Galaxy

son-of-man Title is true for Jesus because birth mother 'mary' was fertilized from 'seed' of King david brought to the lab by Angels who 'froze' the 500 year old 'seed' specimen--- technically making jesus the genetic son of king David & virgin Mary

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: randomuser

I've got a question:

The dichotomy between heaven and Earth:
1) Jesus and the 144,000 in heaven, ruling.

2) The rest of people on Earth, like forever, ruled over.

Question: Do the twain meet?

A quick scan of Revelation chapters 21 and 22, seem to indicate that a city made of material things like gold and precious stones comes out of heaven to be on Earth. There is a river and a tree but no temple, because God and the lamb are the temple. "Now the dwelling of God is with men".

And even kings of the Earth enter the city, bringing material goods.

Reasoning observations. I have actually dwelt with both in different threads. About the New Jerusalem and how she is symbolic of the 144,000 who rule over the earth. And also that the reign is for 1,000 years. Afterward Jesus returns the kingdom to God. After the 1,000 years there will be no more death, after the last and final battle. And no one will rule beside Jehovah God. For Jesus will return the kingdom to Jehovah and subject himself to the one who subjected all things to him, so that God may be all things to all people:

Heavenly Jerusalem Vs New Jerusalem

When All Governments Will No Longer Exist


ETA:
I grabbed a quote from that thread on New Jerusalem from that thread:

The 144,000 are the New Jerusalem seen in Revelation 21:1. There she is seen as a bride adorned for her husband. The 144,000 is the anointed Christian congregation, anointed with holy spirit, and given the hope to go to heaven to rule with Jesus Christ in heavenly spirit bodies as kings and priests over the earth with Jesus Christ in the new world to come. Concerning the anointed Christian congregation we are told:

"I personally promised you in marriage to one husband that I might present you as a chaste virgin to the Christ."-2 Corinthians 11:2.

This "chaste virgin" the anointed Christian congregation, is the bride of Christ and she is New Jerusalem she is in heaven standing on Mount Zion with the Lamb, Jesus Christ. We are told the 144,000 are virgins. Why? Because they are "no part of the world." These anointed Christians do not involve themselves in the politics or wars of this world that is controlled by Satan the Devil (See this thread for further information on who really rules the world). Rather their allegiance is to Jesus' heavenly kingdom government that will soon come and crush all human rule and establish a righteous government of peace and righteousness that will rule over all the earth.

So New Jerusalem is the 144,000, the bride of Christ standing on Mount Zion in heaven with Jesus. Heavenly Jerusalem is the 144,000 plus Jesus Christ himself. So it is composed of 144,001 persons:

"But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens."-Hebrews 12:22-23.

a reply to: randomuser

Jehovah is the author of the Bible.

That's where I have conflicting thoughts. 600 years after the fact the story was written by man from handed down stories that may or may not retain complete accuracy.

Then you have translation, where one word can have many different meanings, and again man decided what Jesus said and meant.

Then you have the edit-where man decided what was 'Devine inspiration' and what should be considered tripe or heresy.

Looking at the Bible as the be-all, end-all final authority is a very narrow view of who we are, where we come from, and where we're going from here.

Every religion thinks they're the only one with all the answers and that's a huge red warning flag, IMHO.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: randomuser

Jehovah is the author of the Bible.

That's where I have conflicting thoughts. 600 years after the fact the story was written by man from handed down stories that may or may not retain complete accuracy.

Then you have translation, where one word can have many different meanings, and again man decided what Jesus said and meant.

Then you have the edit-where man decided what was 'Devine inspiration' and what should be considered tripe or heresy.

Looking at the Bible as the be-all, end-all final authority is a very narrow view of who we are, where we come from, and where we're going from here.

Every religion thinks they're the only one with all the answers and that's a huge red warning flag, IMHO.

Those are fair observations. In such a case one must first build their confidence that the Bible really is inspired by God. This thread doesn't directly touch on that topic. But it is a worthy one. I will leave you this link for you consideration about the subject if you so desire to delve into it further. And perhaps at a later date I will directly deal with it for nonbeliever or skeptics that really want proof that the Bible is God's word. Briefly I will give you the reason why I have confidence. The archaeology record confirms the Bible narrative. Science confirms what it says regards things at the time there was no way a human could know (such as the progression in the fossil record of how life appeared on earth and the Genesis account, and the earth being round and hanging upon nothing, the water cycle, among other things). Its advice when applied makes your life better no matter who you are. It is available to all humankind. Its prophecy is 100% accurate. And there are striking prophecies that you can prove there is no way the human writer knew could possibly come to pass that have come to pass. This is a brief response. I don't have a lot of time right now to go in depth that is why I leave the link. Believe it or not conversations like this with a number of people can tire me out. I too need to rest.

Can You Trust the Bible?
The Bible is God's Message to Us

a reply to: randomuser

Those two threads don't answer the question.

At some time, after the present age, will God dwell with humans on Earth in a material city?

or

Is that metaphor and God remains absent?

Do the 144,000 in spirit bodies ever get to have physical bodies again?

Are the Corinthians from the 1st Century going to be among the 144,000?

a reply to: St Udio


Ahh, finally a post about conspiracies in religion happening now in the Conspiracies in Religion Forum. I skimmed though much of this and found only a whole bunch of ''I've got it right'' going on from all sides. That is a conspiracy to me, how so many continue to believe in that book.

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: randomuser

Those two threads don't answer the question.

At some time, after the present age, will God dwell with humans on Earth in a material city?

or

Is that metaphor and God remains absent?

Do the 144,000 in spirit bodies ever get to have physical bodies again?

Are the Corinthians from the 1st Century going to be among the 144,000?

The 144,000 will ALWAYS be in heaven. They will never have night again. For they will always be in God's presence. And God himself will shine upon them always:

"Also, night will be no more, and they have no need of lamplight or sunlight, for Jehovah God will shed light upon them, and they will rule as kings forever and ever."-Revelation 22:5.

The 144,000 will partake of divine nature. Part of that divine nature is being too bright and too powerful for a human to ever look upon them. So it would be impossible for them to return to earth without harming humankind. Jesus partook of divine nature. Saul was given a vision of a glimpse of his glory in heaven and was blinded by it. And we are told that no human can ever look upon the glory where Jesus now dwells:

"The one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal might. Amen."-1 Timothy 6:16.

Yes, those in the Corinthian congregation will receive immortality, that remained faithful. That is also another part of partaking of divine nature. Immortality is a part of divine nature and comes with the spirit body that is divine like God's. It is impossible for God to become human, and it is now impossible for Jesus to become human again. And the 144,000 will receive immortal spirit bodies so they will never become human or be seen as physical bodies on earth. They give up their earthly hope, it is a sacrifice. For they will no longer be with their loved ones and families on earth. But they will be with Jehovah God and Jesus Christ forever more:

Because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord."-1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: St Udio


Ahh, finally a post about conspiracies in religion happening now in the Conspiracies in Religion Forum. I skimmed though much of this and found only a whole bunch of ''I've got it right'' going on from all sides. That is a conspiracy to me, how so many continue to believe in that book.

It's a great conspiracy that the religions of false Christianity have perpetuated on humankind. The OP assumes the Bible is God's word and sees fit not to argue its divine authorship. Although a brief mention is made of it in a post above yours.

a reply to: randomuser

That seems to answer it.
So God and Jesus will never live on Earth again.

That's a question I've had off and on since the '70s. I don't think I ever got a straight answer before.
Thank you.

a reply to: randomuser

Thank you for your thoughtful response, Random. Most people aren't able to have an open discussion without emotions entering in.

Its advice when applied makes your life better no matter who you are.

Most definitely; there is much common sense advice to be gleaned.

The archaeology record confirms the Bible narrative.

Actually, the Bible dates the story of Adam and Eve to the time of Jesus as 6,000 years by the meticulous genealogical records. Archeology has proven humanity existed long before Adam, so is the Biblical story a retelling of history repeating itself, as if we're stuck in an endless loop, ore?

Many of the Biblical stories can be found in far more ancient cultures. Did the writers of the Bible plagiarize some of their works, or is it a new accounting of events happening that have happened before, i.e. history repeating itself?

Its prophecy is 100% accurate.

I always hear the same thing about other prophecies, like Nostradamus. The problem is prophecies get re-interpreted to fit the facts after the event happens. 600 years gives the writer a lot of time to make sure the prophecies match the ensuing historical events.

There is much wisdom in the Word, yet I also see much evil-sanctioned from On High. Stoning people who aren't obedient comes to mind, and also one of God's favorites; King David.

I have not been able to reconcile a lot of the seemingly (to me) conflicting information, thought I have certainly learned the 'official' arguments as to why it's ok and i shouldn't question such things.

I doubt if I will go to heaven, I actually would rather go where the in between souls and spirits go. Not to hell, not to heaven, just join into the collective consciousness of all life on this planet.

Why don't I really want to go to heaven? I won't know anyone there and won't feel at home most likely. I suppose my punishment will be to go to heaven where I am a stranger to all of those people. Maybe I should keep my mouth shut.

a reply to: randomuser

false Christianity

And THAT is what I consider to be the conspiracy. That there is one true Christian faith and all the others are false. That one interpretation of an old book written with the pen of man is more reliable than all the others. That God would pick and chose from all those who attempt to decipher it correctly and deem some worthy and others not. If that is the reasoning behind this believed in God, then you or others can have it.

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: TTU77

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: TTU77

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: TTU77

originally posted by: Cwantas
Some of us are of the evil one and some of us are of The Father, The Father in His grace has opened heaven to everyone regardless.

No one has ever reached heaven because that wasn't the original plan. All this is to be destroyed "the heavens and the earth" because this creation was not created by The Father.

Jesus created everything, what blasphemy are you spewing? Only those who are in Christ are at peace with God and don't have his wraith on them, be it that means they go to heaven, or are raptured - eventually heaven will be on Earth!

You need to understand that this material realm we inhabit is evil, created by the evil one, we are to be delivered from this realm, Christ is our saviour in this respect. Open your eyes!!

Truly, I stay away from gnosticism. There is no prophecy. Anything not in the bible, that goes against any principle or command, is but a damnable doctrine of demons!

We live under the evil one and you believe truth is handed to you?

Prophecy - Why can't you address this issue?

What prophecy does gnosticism lay down to test to see if it's true.

What has prophecy got to do with anything other than ignorance and superstition, truth is in your heart, you wont find truth here on earth?

Prophecy has to do with everything. How can you say "ignorance and superstition" when the Bible has 100+ prophecies that have all been fulfilled...but was written about 2000 years ago? Would you be willing to look into the subject and then give your viewpoint about it afterwards?