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Transgender women banned from sports is one thing. Banned from chess! Now it's getting silly.

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posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: Grenade

I get it now, you're just a naked monkey that can only think in dichotomies and his only identity is his drive to reproduce, you're excused



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg




British rowing banned transwomen from female competitions
British Rowing is to continue to allow transgender women to compete in female races following a survey of its members. source:www.bbc.com...

North Carolina banned 'gender-affirming care' for minors
great news

Chess...banned transgender women
we've just been there I showed you the paragraph that proves you are living in a hate filled fantasy world, and you can't deduce from a simple statement


round and round you go with the lies... why? just to confirm your unhealthy hatred towards trans, that shows in a multitude of biased things you utter?


You ve reading different or old news...and you're in complete denial

www.dailymail.co.uk... wimming-cycling.html

British Rowing BANS transgender women from female events after reversing its policy to follow athletics, swimming and cycling

3rd of August



The only person who denies reality and refuses to see the huge blows to the transgender ideology it's you I'm this case.




www.cnn.com...

UK rowing body bans transgender women from competing in women’s events

4th of August


Including chess lately shows society has had enough of this ideology.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:11 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi
Back to basics.

Men telling women who and what they can do when playing games, dating and playing in competitive sport.

Men telling women that they need to be included in women's activities. That men can be lesbians too, that they can hold records in women's sport, or force their way into women chess championships.

It's all men forcing women to change, and do as they are told. Irrespective of whether the man has "woman-face" and is sporting a frock, or is an intimidating black-clad and masked "activist" screeching "terf, terf, terf" at women's events. They are all men.


It's the definition of complete madness.

Men have no business in women's sports, women's competitions and spaces.

Even chess has banned men from women's chess events.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: Terpene

More gibberish!

Unable to come to terms with the latest decision from the chess federation. I wonder why is it?

Can you not see transwomen are men and so have no place in women's sports and competitions? You seem to be in complete denial just as all gender ideologues band trans activists.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

maybe you're right that the rowing was old news, however they'll have a hard time proving the requirement "gender assigned at birth".

they'll have a hard time implementing these policies. I'm looking forward for the first legal fully transitioned women born as man to actually getting banned...

won't happen, unless we go the DNA identity route


as for chess, I showed you 3 times already why fully transitioned men will still win women chess titles.

complete lack of actually understanding what is being said...

its getting really dumb


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posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 09:34 AM
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posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

maybe you're right that the rowing was old news, however they'll have a hard time proving the requirement "gender assigned at birth".

they'll have a hard time implementing these policies. I'm looking forward for the first legal fully transitioned women born as man to actually getting banned...

won't happen, unless we go the DNA identity route


as for chess, I showed you 3 times already why fully transitioned men will still win women chess titles.

complete lack of actually understanding what is being said...

its getting really dumb





Nobody has a hard time implementing these policies. When transwomen are banned from a number of sports it means simply transwomen are banned from these sports.

Which sport you wish to consider?
Swimming? Cycling? Rugby? Rowing? Athletics? Maybe chess? All have banned transwomen from female competitions.

Their mistake was to allow men who pretend to be women in female sport competitions when they should have said
in the first place.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: Terpene

Here’s a little challenge. My summarised definitions are as follows.

Man: An adult male human being, containing X and Y chromosomes in the nucleus of their cells with reproductive organs such as a penis and testes, which produce haploid cells in the form of sperm.

Woman: An adult female human being, containing a pair of X chromosomes in the nucleus of their cells with reproductive organs such as a vagina, uterus and ovaries, which produce haploid cells in the form of ovum.

Care to provide alternative definitions for these two words without going off into a wild tangent?

Damn genetics, how rather inconvenient to your argument.

I won’t hold my breath.

edit on 21/8/23 by Grenade because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: nolabel
We've all seen sport governing bodies banning transgender people from taking part in certain sports. Okay, we can understand why the bans have been imposed in sport. But this ban by the International Chess Federation (FIDE) forbidding transgender women from playing chess in womens events has got to be the most ridiculous yet. Chess isn't even a sport. Gender has no impact on the game.



TextThe International Chess Federation (FIDE) says it is temporarily banning transgender women from competing in its women's events. The FIDE said individual cases would require "further analysis" and that a decision could take up to two years.




Many sports governing bodies have been working on policies towards transgender athletes, but chess does not involve comparable levels of physical activity.




In its policy decision, FIDE also said that trans men who had won women's titles before transitioning would see their titles abolished.


All quotes from BBC (Other sources are available)


Well, gender having an impact on the game of chess needs further research, but so far you are correct, in the overall scheme of things. Therefore, a transgender woman should not be any worse or any better than a biological woman player, but it depends on a great many factors attributed to that biological woman player, which point to systemic issues within the professional game and sterotypical psychological and social systemic factors (for some).



"Stereotype threat" has been offered as a potential explanation of differential performance between men and women in some cognitive domains. Questions remain about the reliability and generality of the phenomenon. Previous studies have found that stereotype threat is activated in female chess players when they are matched against male players. I use data from over 5.5 million games of international tournament chess and find no evidence of a stereotype threat effect. In fact women players outperform expectations when playing men. Further analysis shows no influence of degree of challenge, nor of player age, nor of prevalence of female role models in national chess leagues on differences in performance when women play men versus when they play women. Though this analysis contradicts one specific mechanism of influence of gender stereotypes, the persistent differences between male and female players suggest that systematic factors do exist and remain to be uncovered.


osf.io...



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: nolabel
We've all seen sport governing bodies banning transgender people from taking part in certain sports. Okay, we can understand why the bans have been imposed in sport. But this ban by the International Chess Federation (FIDE) forbidding transgender women from playing chess in womens events has got to be the most ridiculous yet. Chess isn't even a sport. Gender has no impact on the game.



TextThe International Chess Federation (FIDE) says it is temporarily banning transgender women from competing in its women's events. The FIDE said individual cases would require "further analysis" and that a decision could take up to two years.




Many sports governing bodies have been working on policies towards transgender athletes, but chess does not involve comparable levels of physical activity.




In its policy decision, FIDE also said that trans men who had won women's titles before transitioning would see their titles abolished.


All quotes from BBC (Other sources are available)


Well, gender having an impact on the game of chess needs further research, but so far you are correct, in the overall scheme of things. Therefore, a transgender woman should not be any worse or any better than a biological woman player, but it depends on a great many factors attributed to that biological woman player, which point to systemic issues within the professional game and sterotypical psychological and social systemic factors (for some).



"Stereotype threat" has been offered as a potential explanation of differential performance between men and women in some cognitive domains. Questions remain about the reliability and generality of the phenomenon. Previous studies have found that stereotype threat is activated in female chess players when they are matched against male players. I use data from over 5.5 million games of international tournament chess and find no evidence of a stereotype threat effect. In fact women players outperform expectations when playing men. Further analysis shows no influence of degree of challenge, nor of player age, nor of prevalence of female role models in national chess leagues on differences in performance when women play men versus when they play women. Though this analysis contradicts one specific mechanism of influence of gender stereotypes, the persistent differences between male and female players suggest that systematic factors do exist and remain to be uncovered.


osf.io...


I think it's better not to exhaust yourself for a day or two and then disappear and come back after a few days for a further round of whataboutism, denialism of facts, and appeals for further 'research'.

If science and research were the main driving forces then whet kind of science and research allowed transwomen in female sports in the first place? The answer is NONE!
They found their way in sports and female spaces via activism, politicians, and politics.

Better come to terms with the latest blow to the trans ideology. Transwomen have been banned even from chess following similar bans in several sports from swimming and rowing to cycling and athletics.

Transwomen are men and have no place in female sports, competitions, or female spaces.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

The science study bears out reality but hey you do your reality and good luck with that.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

The major flaw in your argument is that a transgender woman doesn't really exist, outside a label we give to mentally ill men. Men shouldn't be playing in the women's competition, a transgender woman is a man.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: Grenade

we can do this all day long.

nobody cares about your definition, there are legal paragraphs that quite well define who can be a woman or man and who doesn't...
before a judge, that's what matters.

But maybe if different official organization start to address the trans phenomenon in its sensible language, it is you and the likes who are a little behind in the correct application of language... when it seems like everyone is going crazy it's more often than not yourself that's going kookoo...

if It says in your documents you're a man, well that's what it says, you're going to question legal documents, I really want to see how that will turn out.

you're going to be above the law with your approach!
surely God has your butt covered, so go for it, champ.

Bold so you won't miss the answer



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: Terpene

As i suspected, you can't even provide a definition for man or woman. Kind of makes anything you say on the topic irrelevant.

You simply didn't answer the question, define the words man and woman? What is it that they're identifying as? If you can't offer an alternative definition then i'll continue to use the existing and accepted descriptions.

I didn't ask who can be a man or woman, i asked what a man and woman are by definition. You can't answer because it brings into focus your stupidity.
edit on 21/8/23 by Grenade because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

more garbage without a single shred of proof... talk about fantasy land...



why do fully transitioned man keep their women's chess titles?

It seems you don't read the articles, you're just a headline parrot without any depth at all...



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Terpene

My definition:

Man: An adult male human being, containing X and Y chromosomes in the nucleus of their cells with reproductive organs such as a penis and testes, which produce haploid cells in the form of sperm.

Woman: An adult female human being, containing a pair of X chromosomes in the nucleus of their cells with reproductive organs such as a vagina, uterus and ovaries, which produce haploid cells in the form of ovum.

Your definition:

there are legal paragraphs that quite well define who can be a woman or man and who doesn't...

.....................


Yet i'm the ignorant one? You can't even tell me what a woman is. Please stop using words if you don't know their meaning.

Are you the re-incarnation of Samuel Johnson?
edit on 21/8/23 by Grenade because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 11:17 AM
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Game of Jeopardy for everyone:

For $200 - An adult male human being, containing X and Y chromosomes in the nucleus of their cells with reproductive organs such as a penis and testes, which produce haploid cells in the form of sperm.

___?

For $1000 - An adult female human being, containing a pair of X chromosomes in the nucleus of their cells with reproductive organs such as a vagina, uterus and ovaries, which produce haploid cells in the form of ovum.

_____?

Another couple of questions the trans crowd can't answer.
edit on 21/8/23 by Grenade because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Grenade

For $200

What is, the anti-christ? (or so the left wants people to believe)
edit on 21-8-2023 by PorkChop96 because: (no reason given)

edit on 21-8-2023 by PorkChop96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Grenade

A man is somone who can show me his passport and it sais man for their gender marker, a women would be someone with women noted as her gender in their passport.

Unfortunately for your argument, before a judge I'm right.

Sometimes laws are unnatural, suck it up buttercup...




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