Transgender women banned from sports is one thing. Banned from chess! Now it's getting silly.

a reply to: Terpene

You’re right on this one, the underlying motivation for a lot of these men who want to transition is because they’re homophobic and can’t accept that they’re attracted to people of the same sex. “Im not a homo, I like dick up my ass but I’m a woman now so not gay”. If you’re attracted to men then own it, no need to pretend to be a woman in order to clear your conscience about being a homosexual. I have no problem with your sexual desire, only your proclamations of delusional garbage in order to legitimise your deviance as anything other than that.

a reply to: Terpene

Because the underlying motivation for this aversion is homophobia, they can't stand the idea of being attracted to a man in any way or form.

Yes, its logic. Heterosexual people can't stand the idea of being attracted to homosexuals, because they are heterosexual. Of course this is a very abstract thought. It is not natural or normal to be homosexual, or bisexual. Their reaction is actually perfectly human behavior. How they treat you because of this is what counts.

And no one here treats me bad because of that. Do you think this is because I am more conservative and people can relate to it, or is it maybe because I acknowledge for myself, that I am the one that is not normal and I am fine with that?

Instead of demanding things, I am like "Oh ja, BTW I am bisexual too, since we're on topic" And I do not feel hate coming towards me. People learn how I respect others borders and not demand acceptance, they give it to me after proofing that I am no danger, that I am just a human with not so normal cravings, that I am not at fault for who I love.

Or do you have the feeling people hate on me? Do you really think this is, because I align politically with the side these people are on? Or is it maybe because they can tolerate me, because I am not advertising it. And I do have a daughter that I do not want exposed to any of this. My daughter does not even know about me liking women AND men. It's something she will get to know when she's old enough for this, if she did not figure out before.

Others would be like: Let's send someone into the kindergarten to indoctrinate their children. This, is naturally the point where every parent, myself included, starts to remember where I seen the torch and pitchfork the last time. Remember one thing, you go after others kids, you paint a huge target on your back. You can't imagine it now, wait for the moment you become a dad and hold your son or daughter. You will do everything to protect them, and then, you will maybe see that you are the one fighting on the wrong side of this equation.

There is no room for live and let live, if your sexual expression gets you to hell, and on top you feel comfortable about it, you must be the spawn of hell.

There's only one guy here saying # like that here and this guy, will go to hell, if he believes in that system. It's made for that person and deep down he knows it probably. The moment someone wishes harm or death on someone that just want's to not be outcast and voices it out actively, got the ticket half stamped. But these are the extremes, you will find one on every board, no matter what.

unfortunately those extremists with no self reflection and no compassion for their fellow humans are found on both side of the isle, one just happens to have the media circus, and big Pharma on their side...
good thing the legal grounds are being covered, better now than never, as some hoped this would just go back into the closet...

Being against something just the polarize, IDK if you do a better job Terpene, honestly. I once had a lot of respect towards you, but lately you're just being an asshole for the sake of being one very often. In my opinion. You might see me like that too, so let's both not take it personal but as an expression of our observation, detached from any emotions.

I hope you read this post without prejudice, I meant every word.

a reply to: TDDAgain

The difference being you have the courage to own your feelings, who and what you are, without some convoluted attempt at acceptance.

Respect for that.

a reply to: Grenade

Thank you for these open words

a reply to: Terpene

That’s not true, I can empathise with your situation. By no means do I think you deserve death or any kind of punishment for your beliefs. I simply don’t think feeding your delusion is helpful for your mental health. If my children want to mutilate themselves then I’m not going to promote those ideas, I don’t want to see anyone harm themselves or others. Your ideology is a danger to the well being of innocent children and should be opposed. I can attempt to understand your psychological misconception but i won’t encourage it or be forced to normalise insanity.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

You're kind of always announcing your own despicable rhetorical techniques, it's quite nice...

I actually showed you a paragraph from the OP, on this very page, from which i deduced this stance...

Here again just for you. let it really sink in and tell me what it implies?

In its policy decision, FIDE also said that trans men who had won women's titles before transitioning would see their titles abolished.

What is it with you?
Why cant you answer simple questions?
is it a memory thing? Or is it to complicated?
Are you a bot?
Or only interested in repeating the same things over and over even when they have no baring on the conversation?

Maybe others dont follow a thread or don't see what you do.
To me it's utterly curios how an integer honest intelligent person discusses in the way you do... Maybe you just lack in the aforementioned disciplines.
At least your persisten... I have to give you that...

I just thought if a joke... There are two kind of people, those that can deduce.

What do you want me to do about this policy? Is not my business and I am not in control of the chess federation.

But that doesn't change at all the reality of chess banning transwomen from female chess competitions. And the reason is simple, transwomen are men and they should be playing against men.

It's not me who has lost this debate btw.
If you believe going off topic can help your arguments then you're mistaken.

Can you not see the holes in your arguments or the blows to the trans ideology? Even chess is no longer interested in affirming the dogma of some deluded individuals.

a reply to: TDDAgain

Well the whole attraction thing is where i find the diffrent flavors of trans phobia to seperate the chaff from the grain.

In one thought the only thing that matters are chomosomes and in the next they have to admit that they are not attracted or repulsed by chromosomes but by the looks of it.

It's logical that one is attracted to female looking bodies when a hetero man. And one has always been thinking one is hetero because one likes women, but in reality all one likes is the body of a women...

It's a deconstruction of their half-assed assessment on their own sexuality, it triggers people. It's normal a topic like sexuality has been shunned from public discours, it will evoke the most nasty rhetorics, one we haven't heard since gay became accepted. That wasn't just a day of trouble, it takes time for minds to wrap themselfs around foreign concepts.
When they started with adding awareness by changing language I knew what was coming down the pipe. Language is the most powerful tool to change the way you think.

What it will come down to most probably is that fully transitioned men will be consider female for most everything involving gender. Their will be fines for slander if you question the veracity of ones passport.
I see masculine apearing women just as treated of being slandered by the phobes as trans women.

My ass-holiness is just giving back some of the crappy love spread around here...
Unfortunately this is becoming a political and by extent religious echo chamber and people who like to meddle in them are often dumb as a field pizza.
I kind of gave up on honest integer, and intelligent discussion at least in those knee jerk threads where it's all unreflected, trauma induced reasoning, if you want to call the bable some let loose "reasoning".

I dont have no personal feelings towards no one on this board. I don't know anyone of you, you're all meaningless online posters to me, lets meet and I might dare to make myself a judgment on the matter called That Damn Duck Again...

a reply to: Grenade

I'm as male as they come and feel super comfortable in my body thanks for the assumption...

It's always the same, when you run out of arguments.

I have no problem being attracted to women and I don't pretend chromosomes ever mattered to me, so I could rationalize my homophobia...

It's ok, though... Not an easy process reflecting on ones own sexuality, when you've been indoctrinated with intolerant ideologies towards the issues.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Lol, i see now...

I hope you feel acknowledged in your worries and we can move on now that we can agree that fully transitioned men are considered legal women.

As per the chess association delivering a huge blow, fully transitioned men are apt to win womens title. I guess it's not such a blow it's more like acknowledging transgender to be a reality and one that needs clear rules and guidelines. Unfortunately for the phobes that is not a blow at all, just comon sense and long overdue.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

Lol, i see now...

I hope you feel acknowledged in your worries and we can move on now that we can agree that fully transitioned men are considered legal women.

As per the chess association delivering a huge blow, fully transitioned men are apt to win womens title. I guess it's not such a blow it's more like acknowledging transgender to be a reality and one that needs clear rules and guidelines. Unfortunately for the phobes that is not a blow at all, just comon sense and long overdue.

Are you going to talk about the law and civil rights?

Biology and science are one thing, law is another. What the law says has no impact on biology.

Legal women? Is this a new term?

The law cannot determine what s woman is. Only chromosomes determine biological sex. Again, you seem to be in a denial over the huge blow to the trans ideology delivered by the...chess federation! Imagine how bad things are for the trans agenda that even chess has decided to ban transwomen.

There are no transgender humans. That's physically impossible. You need to come to terms with reality.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Terpene

You’re right on this one, the underlying motivation for a lot of these men who want to transition is because they’re homophobic and can’t accept that they’re attracted to people of the same sex. “Im not a homo, I like dick up my ass but I’m a woman now so not gay”. If you’re attracted to men then own it, no need to pretend to be a woman in order to clear your conscience about being a homosexual. I have no problem with your sexual desire, only your proclamations of delusional garbage in order to legitimise your deviance as anything other than that.

This ^

a reply to: Terpene

I am curious whether you can see the holes in your arguments or the blows to the trans ideology. The topic o this conversation verified how bad things have turned up for the trans lobby and the gender ideologues.

Should I remind you what happened the last few days?

British rowing banned transwomen from female competitions

North Carolina banned 'gender affirming care' for minors

Chess...banned transgender women

I am sure if you look around you will find other types of legislation and rules going against the trans lobby.

a reply to: Terpene

It's logical that one is attracted to female looking bodies when a hetero man. And one has always been thinking one is hetero because one likes women, but in reality all one likes is the body of a women...

Gibberish!

Men are in their vast majorities attracted to women and not 'female looking bodies'. Men are not attracted to 'transwomen' just because they may look (sometimes) female on the outside. Transwomen are men and to be attracted to them you have to be homosexual.


On the topic of this thread

Chess, swimming, rowing, athletics, rugby, and so many other sports, don't care if you look less or more feminine on the outside or whether you have taken hormones and have removed body parts to look like a woman. Transwomen get a ban as they are biologically male.

a reply to: AlienBorg

repeating things like a broken record doesn't make them true, it makes one look dumb...

talks about being out of touch with reality... can't read, can't deduce, obviously a case of severe projection of one own disabilities.

and this is why sensible rules are being concocted by intelligent people with a sensibility for other humans needs, so that trans can have a legal place in society.

you fail to interpret the legal groundwork being done as a blowback, but it's actually admitting fully transitioned trans some fundamental rights, it also makes it possible for them to fight back against the transphobe.

there is no bad publicity

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

repeating things like a broken record doesn't make them true, it makes one look dumb...

talks about being out of touch with reality... can't read, can't deduce, obviously a case of severe projection of one own disabilities.

and this is why sensible rules are being concocted by intelligent people with a sensibility for other humans needs, so that trans can have a legal place in society.

you fail to interpret the legal groundwork being done as a blowback, but it's actually admitting fully transitioned trans some fundamental rights, it also makes it possible for them to fight back against the transphobe.

there is no bad publicity

Gibberish as usual...

You need to come to terms with the ban by the chess federation on transwomen. You don't have to go about irrelevant matters being in a constant denial of the fact transwomen are men and have no place in women's sports, competitions (even if it's beauty contests), and female only spaces.

The trans ideology is in real trouble as it seems if chess has decided no more of this nonsense.

Don't forget:

British rowing banned transwomen from female competitions.

North Carolina banned 'gender affirming care' for minors.


Doesn't seem good for the trans agenda

a reply to: AlienBorg

British rowing banned transwomen from female competitions
British Rowing is to continue to allow transgender women to compete in female races following a survey of its members. source:www.bbc.com...

North Carolina banned 'gender-affirming care' for minors
great news

Chess...banned transgender women
we've just been there I showed you the paragraph that proves you are living in a hate filled fantasy world, and you can't deduce from a simple statement

round and round you go with the lies... why? just to confirm your unhealthy hatred towards trans, that shows in a multitude of biased things you utter?

a reply to: Terpene

I tolerate men who claim to be women, I just don’t believe their outrageous claims, no matter the social pressure to conform with the insane logic.

You can do what you like in the bedroom, as long as those crazy fantasies don’t infiltrate the classroom.

I wasn’t indoctrinated into anything, from the age of 4 years old I understood there was 2 sexes. Every human being on the planet is the result of the reproductive process. That process is underpinned and dependent on the fusion of two haploid cells. One which must come from a WOMAN in the form of ovum and the other from a MAN in the form of sperm. There’s no other way and there’s no argument. If you can’t understand this simple process then you’re a total fool.

Being trans is a psychological construct, it only exists in your confused brain and as such you’re the one who’s a victim of indoctrination and conditioning. My understanding is based in objective, measurable reality and not some feeling you have.

Back to basics.

Men telling women who and what they can do when playing games, dating and playing in competitive sport.

Men telling women that they need to be included in women's activities. That men can be lesbians too, that they can hold records in women's sport, or force their way into women chess championships.

It's all men forcing women to change, and do as they are told. Irrespective of whether the man has "woman-face" and is sporting a frock, or is an intimidating black-clad and masked "activist" screeching "terf, terf, terf" at women's events. They are all men.

a reply to: Grenade

I wasn’t indoctrinated into anything, from the age of 4 years old I understood there was 2 sexes.

sure, mix it with a tablespoon of Stockholm syndrome, and you certainly knew about sexual reproduction at the age of 4, without being told by absolutely no one...

maybe some humans really barely evolved beyond their animalistic world and can only think in terms of reproduction when addressing sexuality. It's funny that it's mostly those that have been indoctrinated with the lie that humans are above animals, that show no endeavor to become better humans, and think they have the moral high ground to judge others behaviors...

religious people are just pathetic when they try to reason anything outside religion... it always comes back to the same circular logic, and they really believe it confirmed their stance.

from an outside, it's almost comedic to read and watch them dig their own societal grave even deeper...

a reply to: Terpene

So how do you think mammals reproduce if not the fusion between haploid cells, produced by two morphologically distinct gametes?

These words we use to define sexes throughout the animal kingdom, and are determined by gamete production and chromosomes. Sexuality is a psychological construct and your crowd intentionally try to blur the lines between physiology in the form of biological sex and psychology in the form of sexual preference.

Could you be anymore disingenuous?

Finally, I don’t prescribe to any religion, I’m a creationist. You can shove your death cult nonsense.