The moment the trans agenda goes off the rails thread

Transgender’s are just regular people, who through no fault of their own, have a brain that does not coincide with the physical wrapping.

Imagine if all “outsiders “ just accepted that.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
Since you say your qualifications to determine a false equivalence between how body dysmorphic mental illness manifests in a person aren't our business, then why should we give your opinion any weight at all?

And you have no idea how many people on this thread might also personally know transgenders/transsexuals, or what their relations are. So you declaring yourself the best expert on the thread because nobody else has experience equal to yours is just silly.

I have my reasons for not saying more that some here may know but I did mention decades of study and research into the phenomenon and you’re right, I did assume having more actual experience with trans people beyond maybe meeting one once somewhere, hearing secondhand stories or seeing someone visibly trans out in public may exceed the experiences of others and be worth something but it is more than obvious that no one here has ever known a genuinely trans young person or been the parent of one or they wouldn’t be making the comments they do so if I am wrong that my experience counts for a modest amount of qualification to make statements about what I see as a false equivalence, then please show me the error of my ways.

Thank you.

a reply to: AdifferentOpinion

FYI: There is a poster on ATS whose friend is raising a young transgender child.

I know 4 transgenders, one in her 20s.

They’re just people. All 4 are very different individuals.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: AdifferentOpinion

FYI: There is a poster on ATS whose friend is raising a young transgender child.

I know 4 transgenders, one in her 20s.

They’re just people. All 4 are very different individuals.

And this is why you have a more enlightened and educated view than many of the people here and call out the BS when you see it and for what it's worth, I appreciate that and it's nice to see you back.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Archaic minds fail to see the relevance in a more differentiated approach between sex and love.

originally posted by: Annee
Transgender’s are just regular people, who through no fault of their own, have a brain that does not coincide with the physical wrapping.

Imagine if all “outsiders “ just accepted that.

I think everyone can accept they have an issue, but when we are forced to participate in their alternate reality then we kind of have a problem.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Transgender’s are just regular people, who through no fault of their own, have a brain that does not coincide with the physical wrapping.

Imagine if all “outsiders “ just accepted that.

I think everyone can accept they have an issue, but when we are forced to participate in their alternate reality then we kind of have a problem.

True.

This alternate reality is what they call 'brain sex' and other similar terms. It's just a delusion and sane people will have a problem when they are asked to affirm it and participate pretending nothing is wrong.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

Archaic minds fail to see the relevance in a more differentiated approach between sex and love.

Perhaps you forgot you made the same comment earlier but this is what I have answered you:

Thanks for your rather irrelevant contribution. Are you not going to offer some vague interpretation or belief in favour of transgenderism?

Do you know what whataboutism is?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Transgender’s are just regular people, who through no fault of their own, have a brain that does not coincide with the physical wrapping.

Imagine if all “outsiders “ just accepted that.

I think everyone can accept they have an issue, but when we are forced to participate in their alternate reality then we kind of have a problem.

Isn’t anyone deemed different forced to live in an alternate reality from their perspective?

As I’ve said before, my mom was a polio victim. 30 some years before the Disability Act. We were thrown out of a store once because the owner feared my mom (full length brace + 2 Kenny Sticks/crutch) would fall and break something in the store.

People in general do not easily accept different.

Activism is necessary, because (unfortunately), force is the only way for someone different to gain equality.

I consider transgender a birthright.

originally posted by: AdifferentOpinion

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: AdifferentOpinion

FYI: There is a poster on ATS whose friend is raising a young transgender child.

I know 4 transgenders, one in her 20s.

They’re just people. All 4 are very different individuals.

And this is why you have a more enlightened and educated view than many of the people here and call out the BS when you see it and for what it's worth, I appreciate that and it's nice to see you back.

There are and have been over the years transgender posters on ATS.

They have educated me through their posts and links to read.

I chose/choose to listen and respect their knowledge and personal experience.

Why would I know more than them?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Transgender’s are just regular people, who through no fault of their own, have a brain that does not coincide with the physical wrapping.

Imagine if all “outsiders “ just accepted that.

I think everyone can accept they have an issue, but when we are forced to participate in their alternate reality then we kind of have a problem.

Isn’t anyone deemed different forced to live in an alternate reality from their perspective?

As I’ve said before, my mom was a polio victim. 30 some years before the Disability Act. We were thrown out of a store once because the owner feared my mom (full length brace + 2 Kenny Sticks/crutch) would fall and break something in the store.

People in general do not easily accept different.

Activism is necessary, because (unfortunately), force is the only way for someone different to gain equality.

I consider transgender a birthright.

It's rather different in this case.
A tiny group of people do live in this alternate reality and we are forced to affirm/verify their worldview which is based on delusions.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: DBCowboy

Absolutely!

A person thinks they are a woman (body dysmorphia) , we cut off their penis.

A person thinks they're too fat (body dysmorphia), we get them help.

Do you see the problem now?

You've precisely described the problem.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: DBCowboy

Absolutely!

A person thinks they are a woman (body dysmorphia) , we cut off their penis.

A person thinks they're too fat (body dysmorphia), we get them help.

Do you see the problem now?

I was never confused. I'm just saying that the mental health side of the subject needs to be understood and explored more, and not so stigmatized. I'm not saying tolerate everything, accept everything, or agree with everything that comes out of that community. Honestly I find most of pretty disgusting. The line crossing politicizing agendas. The corruption in the government runs deep. Their tactics are to divide and conquer. Attempt to make us fear, and hate the 'other'. There are those who have taken the LQBTQ+ community and used it, grown it, utilized it for various ends, turning it toxic by creating the loud and obnoxious, brainwashed idiots we feel sorry for and laugh at, hate on. You know the ones. And the community has a toxic life of it's own now. The gradual indoctrination of younger and younger children (e.g. that how to touch yourself book, or groomy teachers). The divisiveness is real.

All that said though. There are people with different brain chemistries that make them feel as if they were born in the wrong body. It's a struggle, and a mental health issue to be sure. And I think less hate, and more understanding as to why that is, and how they can be helped, is the true acceptance and awareness that they deserve. And if a consenting adult feels that for their mental health, surgery is best for them, so be it. That won't change anything about their biology ofc.

We know this, they know this. It's only the toxic ones with an agenda that will try to tell you different.

So what I would like to see is more study and understanding into the mental inner workings of the subject. But keep the dildos out of school and I don't even need to tell you what else. That sh!t needs to be stopped.

I do agree with many of the points you raised here. But I don't think there is any 'hate' when it comes to this issue. Most people will just reject the affirmation tactics proposed by this movement and argue this is a mental health condition that should be addressed in the right way.

The main problem is activism and politics trying to present this mental condition as something completely different where everyone else needs to verify and accept it or even try to change facts and ignore biology and science.

originally posted by: AdifferentOpinion

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
Since you say your qualifications to determine a false equivalence between how body dysmorphic mental illness manifests in a person aren't our business, then why should we give your opinion any weight at all?

And you have no idea how many people on this thread might also personally know transgenders/transsexuals, or what their relations are. So you declaring yourself the best expert on the thread because nobody else has experience equal to yours is just silly.

I have my reasons for not saying more that some here may know but I did mention decades of study and research into the phenomenon and you’re right, I did assume having more actual experience with trans people beyond maybe meeting one once somewhere, hearing secondhand stories or seeing someone visibly trans out in public may exceed the experiences of others and be worth something but it is more than obvious that no one here has ever known a genuinely trans young person or been the parent of one or they wouldn’t be making the comments they do so if I am wrong that my experience counts for a modest amount of qualification to make statements about what I see as a false equivalence, then please show me the error of my ways.

Thank you.

There's no such thing as a "genuinely trans young person". You're delusional, just like those who think they're in the wrong body

originally posted by: Annee
Why would I know more than them?

What I meant was through your associations, experiences, readings and learning from the voices of those that are trans, be that here or through the people you know personally, rather than rally against them you’ve actually listened and with that, you probably know more actual truth and facts about the subject than 98% of the people posting here without those connections.

Transgender = make believe male or female
Prove me wrong
Never actually a male or female
Except because they’re sick in the head you better be too or you're a bigot or whatever other word they can use to gaslight you…
But really that never changes the fact that they can only ever be a pretend male or female…
Let’s pretend they don’t exist at all maybe then they can change their minds after being ignored and decide to be what they actually always have been I can almost assure you this would come to pass because of the amount of attention they demand…
A lie can never be the truth why the hell are we all supposed to play along with this delusion?
Get real
P.S.
IDGAFWTO

Imagine a woman who decides to be a male and compete as one and this individual actually winning as a woman who is pretending to be a man…
You women better know this was not a victory for women on any level…
Well the worm would turn then and the supportive voices of so many women today would cry bloody murder and the crusade would begin…
You think I’m offensive? Well you just watch and see the holy hell that would follow if this ever comes to pass…
lol

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Transgender’s are just regular people, who through no fault of their own, have a brain that does not coincide with the physical wrapping.

Imagine if all “outsiders “ just accepted that.

I think everyone can accept they have an issue, but when we are forced to participate in their alternate reality then we kind of have a problem.

Isn’t anyone deemed different forced to live in an alternate reality from their perspective?

As I’ve said before, my mom was a polio victim. 30 some years before the Disability Act. We were thrown out of a store once because the owner feared my mom (full length brace + 2 Kenny Sticks/crutch) would fall and break something in the store.

People in general do not easily accept different.

Activism is necessary, because (unfortunately), force is the only way for someone different to gain equality.

I consider transgender a birthright.

It's rather different in this case.
A tiny group of people do live in this alternate reality and we are forced to affirm/verify their worldview which is based on delusions.

Delusion is merely your opinion.

Equal rights is not based on a number.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Sure there is slight distinction between the two posts they imply diffrent meanings, considering the brute approach, such details are probably lost on some...

Do you know what whataboutism is?

I'd wager a guess and say it's the only rhetorical technique you're familiar with?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Transgender’s are just regular people, who through no fault of their own, have a brain that does not coincide with the physical wrapping.

Imagine if all “outsiders “ just accepted that.

I think everyone can accept they have an issue, but when we are forced to participate in their alternate reality then we kind of have a problem.

Isn’t anyone deemed different forced to live in an alternate reality from their perspective?

As I’ve said before, my mom was a polio victim. 30 some years before the Disability Act. We were thrown out of a store once because the owner feared my mom (full length brace + 2 Kenny Sticks/crutch) would fall and break something in the store.

People in general do not easily accept different.

Activism is necessary, because (unfortunately), force is the only way for someone different to gain equality.

I consider transgender a birthright.

It's rather different in this case.
A tiny group of people do live in this alternate reality and we are forced to affirm/verify their worldview which is based on delusions.

Delusion is merely your opinion.

Equal rights is not based on a number.

I think everyone agrees it's a delusion and we shouldn't try to affirm/verify it. Believing you're in the wrong body it's definitely something you need to address with a psychologist or psychiatrist. You don't go on hormones or have surgery to affirm a false perception of reality.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

Sure there is slight distinction between the two posts they imply diffrent meanings, considering the brute approach, such details are probably lost on some...

Do you know what whataboutism is?

I'd wager a guess and say it's the only rhetorical technique you're familiar with?

I am not the one who tries to avoid answering questions and goes to create some off topic conversation.