The moment the trans agenda goes off the rails thread

a reply to: AlienBorg

Im wondering if there is really a difference other than the bots being more annoying, if possible.

They seemed pretty scripted to me, and have for years!

originally posted by: Annee

Isn’t anyone deemed different forced to live in an alternate reality from their perspective?

I consider transgender a birthright.

Hopefully, everyone is "different" in their own way. For your idea to work society will need to just become unisex and do away with all aspects of male and female. Just one bathroom and showers will be great for all. We will need to do away with men's/women's sports and have just one like the old days. We can go to Persons of the Year and not have women/men in anything. Completely remove sex as any form of discrimination since it will not exist anymore as everyone is seen as the same. So on and so forth...

This is the alternate reality you are asking for. I'm not sure everyone is on board with it though... Are you?

There are a lot more alternate realities too. Is pedophilia a birthright too? How far down the rabbit hole do we go with this, or do we just stop with trans? I think that was the idea in the 70s with gays. Let's see Gay as normal and stop there, lol seems everyone else wants on that bandwagon too.

originally posted by: Terpene

What's the diffeence between love and sexual reproduction?

Is hetero an expression of the former or the latter?

Wait did you just make an educational post highlighting how whataboutism is applied?

Pretty well done...

Things like hetero/homo are behaviors that society accepts or does not like any other behavior. Trans is not a behavior and is more of a shift in what is reality. It seems that a new reality that some seem to push is that the physical person can be anything they want with only a desire. We just had the bearded trans female that now says they are a lesbian.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Isn’t anyone deemed different forced to live in an alternate reality from their perspective?

I consider transgender a birthright.

Hopefully, everyone is "different" in their own way. For your idea to work society will need to just become unisex and do away with all aspects of male and female. Just one bathroom and showers will be great for all. We will need to do away with men's/women's sports and have just one like the old days. We can go to Persons of the Year and not have women/men in anything. Completely remove sex as any form of discrimination since it will not exist anymore as everyone is seen as the same. So on and so forth...

This is the alternate reality you are asking for. I'm not sure everyone is on board with it though... Are you?

There are a lot more alternate realities too. Is pedophilia a birthright too? How far down the rabbit hole do we go with this, or do we just stop with trans? I think that was the idea in the 70s with gays. Let's see Gay as normal and stop there, lol seems everyone else wants on that bandwagon too.

I don't think they can distinguish reality from fantasy.

But some of them are able to do but still choose to push their ideological convictions.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

True.

This alternate reality is what they call 'brain sex' and other similar terms. It's just a delusion and sane people will have a problem when they are asked to affirm it and participate pretending nothing is wrong.

The problem is you can't say on the one hand it is a mental issue and then on the other tell everyone they must accept it as true even up to the point of allowing men into women's bathrooms, women's sports, or anything else women related. Need to also include that lesbians and heterosexual males need to get on board too and see them as viable partners, or they will be labeled transphobic.

This is how it has spiraled out of control. It was once asked only to provide compassionate understanding and accept them as people with maybe issues, and all that has blown up to what I wrote above.

Spiraled out of control by who?

Every group has their extremists. Is that honestly who we should be listening to?

As a woman, I have no issue with trans women.

The sports thing, that probably needs more research. I know I told you before boys/girls tend to be physically equal up to age 12. If transitioning m/f starts at the beginning of puberty before the body changes that might be OK. But transitioning after the body has fully developed would probably not be OK.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

True.

This alternate reality is what they call 'brain sex' and other similar terms. It's just a delusion and sane people will have a problem when they are asked to affirm it and participate pretending nothing is wrong.

The problem is you can't say on the one hand it is a mental issue and then on the other tell everyone they must accept it as true even up to the point of allowing men into women's bathrooms, women's sports, or anything else women related. Need to also include that lesbians and heterosexual males need to get on board too and see them as viable partners, or they will be labeled transphobic.

This is how it has spiraled out of control. It was once asked only to provide compassionate understanding and accept them as people with maybe issues, and all that has blown up to what I wrote above.

Spiraled out of control by who?

Every group has their extremists. Is that honestly who we should be listening to?

As a woman, I have no issue with trans women.

The sports thing, that probably needs more research. I know I told you before boys/girls tend to be physically equal up to age 12. If transitioning m/f starts at the beginning of puberty before the body changes that might be OK. But transitioning after the body has fully developed would probably not be OK.

Sports need to do no further research. Many of the sports have banned transwomen on the basis of their biological sex. Transwomen are men. It's just incredible they did let them participate in female sports in the first place.

Transitioning can never happen because you cannot physically transition between biological sexes.

Basic biology the trans agenda seems to ignore or want to ignore.

As my thread was closed and I was told to take it here (which I disagree with but anyway...) here it is

closed thread Miss Netherlands 2023 is a trans

Miss Netherlands 2023

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
As my thread was closed and I was told to take it here (which I disagree with but anyway...) here it is

closed thread Miss Netherlands 2023 is a trans

Miss Netherlands 2023

It's already on the news but good you took time to make a thread.

A biological male has won one of the women's competitions. That's not really news!

But many sports have banned transwomen from female competitions. It's time female beauty contests do the same.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Holy smokes... is ATS protecting clown world? 🤣

I'll just repost lol...

a reply to: Waterglass

The Netherlands has some of the most beautiful women on the planet, this is so disrespectful.

This particular sight is simply... hideous!

Cross thread reply to Terpene

I find this incredibly funny... Ok victim role I give you that... But honestly these contest have always devalued women to their appearance, and I've long suspected the backstage performances are much more match deciding than the show put up for you... I guess women was always the victim and had to be cared for and understood in her voulnerable position. they never had to make the effort to actually know what men want... Here we are, smoking hot plastic human comes along and blows the juries brains out... Just kidding, kind of...

The devaluing woman issue is such crap. All contestants know what they are getting into, most of them are living their childhood dream. They've put in years of work (and money) to be on that show.

But the fact that you mention that it is all decided backstage, which a lot of ppl believe, kinda proofs the whole trans agenda thing is real.

believe me, behind the scenes, there is no participant in a victim role and they aren't besties... in that scene woman are vicious to each other (I don't think many men realize just how vixen they become)

what does this have to do with 'what men want'?
Appearance? Men want transwomen now???

a reply to: imitator

That was my first thought. It is just crazy. if you are going to have a man dress up as a woman at least make her look like a woman. This looks like a B-Movie of Liv Tyler in LOTR. In fact, that is too nice. More Gollum like.

a reply to: AlienBorg

It’s biological gender.

Sex is a physical act.

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
As my thread was closed and I was told to take it here (which I disagree with but anyway...) here it is

closed thread Miss Netherlands 2023 is a trans

Miss Netherlands 2023

This is completley different to say sport, where bring a trans does make a huge difference, and I believe should not be allowed. But beauty contest? Are you being serious? A lot of that does by looks and achievements, so why the hell can a trans woman not enter?

Yoh have women who enter who have had plastic surgery, she's that mean the women who have not had plastic surgery should moan about it?

originally posted by: Annee

Spiraled out of control by who?

Every group has their extremists. Is that honestly who we should be listening to?

As a woman, I have no issue with trans women.

So I can agree here, so how do you protect biological women against the 6'4" trans female swimmer, the trans female MMA fighter breaking biological women, the trans female swinging their dick through the woman's locker room with a wide age range of women there, the trans female that goes to a women's prison and rapes at will... so many other examples...

You are an older woman who really isn't forced into a situation other than maybe in a social gathering situation, and you say what is wrong with that...well nothing... but there are many more situations that are pretty bad.

If trans women want to be seen as female then have at it, but why is it wrong to attach a physical clause to it too, and not just ignore the physical differences?

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: AlienBorg

It’s biological gender.

Sex is a physical act.

Biological sex please. Don't make attempts to change words and definitions.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

Transitioning can never happen because you cannot physically transition between biological sexes.

You are your brain.

Not your physical wrapping.

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Ask yourself why did she win?
While there were obviously so much more beautiful real women in that contest?

why did the trans win? a real women who looks just like that wouldn't be in the top ten even

edit: I do agree that this is different then sports and such, that is why I made a new thread about it... not my choice to post it here and derail an existing thread that touches different topics

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

Transitioning can never happen because you cannot physically transition between biological sexes.

You are your brain.

Not your physical wrapping.

I note you've repeated these false claims on a number of threads.

Better not.

Transitioning can never happen. They try so much but at the end of the day is impossible. Even more worrying are the attempts to convince us it could happen.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

Transitioning can never happen because you cannot physically transition between biological sexes.

You are your brain.

Not your physical wrapping.

one's hardware determines one's software.
girl parts = female.
boy parts = male.
tiny handful of hermaphrodites.

its a shame that people, mostly in their late teens, get confused and start to experiment. this is self-destructive.
and shame on the 'adults' that encourage this.
and especially shame on the doctors that surgically alter normal healthy young people's bodies.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

Transitioning can never happen because you cannot physically transition between biological sexes.

You are your brain.

Not your physical wrapping.

Some brains suffer from illnesses, such as severe depression, schizophrenia and body dysphoria.
I'd hate to see the day when schizophrenia is championed as 'normal' behavior, promoted as the ideology everyone should strive to embrace and emulate.