The moment the trans agenda goes off the rails thread

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Transgender’s are just regular people, who through no fault of their own, have a brain that does not coincide with the physical wrapping.

Imagine if all “outsiders “ just accepted that.

I think everyone can accept they have an issue, but when we are forced to participate in their alternate reality then we kind of have a problem.

Isn’t anyone deemed different forced to live in an alternate reality from their perspective?

As I’ve said before, my mom was a polio victim. 30 some years before the Disability Act. We were thrown out of a store once because the owner feared my mom (full length brace + 2 Kenny Sticks/crutch) would fall and break something in the store.

People in general do not easily accept different.

Activism is necessary, because (unfortunately), force is the only way for someone different to gain equality.

I consider transgender a birthright.

It's rather different in this case.
A tiny group of people do live in this alternate reality and we are forced to affirm/verify their worldview which is based on delusions.

Delusion is merely your opinion.

Equal rights is not based on a number.

You are avoiding the question posed to you earlier. You've dodged it several times. What is scientific about transgenderidm? You can hardly find anything to justify the belief in some alternative reality.

a reply to: AlienBorg

What's the diffeence between love and sexual reproduction?

Is hetero an expression of the former or the latter?

Wait did you just make an educational post highlighting how whataboutism is applied?

Pretty well done...

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

What's the diffeence between love and sexual reproduction?

Is hetero an expression of the former or the latter?

Wait did you just make an educational post highlighting how whataboutism is applied?

Pretty well done...

Your question is irrelevant to the topic.
You're unable to justify your views on transgenderism. Pretty much everyone who supports this ideology can't make a cogent argument and engages in whataboutism.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Your opinion on the topic is irrelevant.

There is more to humans than their sexual reproduction organs, you claim there isn't. I guess you are speaking from personal experience?

Could be due to limited mental capacities while exploring "self" beyond the physical limitations. It takes evolved brains for such endeavor, you're just showing where you're stuck on this evolutionary path....

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

Your opinion on the topic is irrelevant.

There is more to humans than their sexual reproduction organs, you claim there isn't. I guess you are speaking from personal experience?

Could be due to limited mental capacities while exploring "self" beyond the physical limitations. It takes evolved brains for such endeavor, you're just showing where you're stuck on this evolutionary path....

My position isn't an opinion.
Transgenderism has no basis in reality or science. Sex dysphoria (and not gender dysphoria) is a mental health issue and should not be treated with hormones and surgery.

You shouldn't conflate philosophy with biology. We are the products of heterosexuality between two only sexes, male and female. No other sex exists and you can't transition between sexes. That's basix biology.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: briantaylor

What exactly has been said that you find 'unethical', specifically? Too often nothing said was offensive, but is judged, or reported as hateful. Usually, it's a moderator of a service or board that decides.

Please let us know what you think was offensive, and we can decide if it is, and if we should dial it back.

As far as changing pronouns and new language. I don't have to conform to every standard that is suddenly introduced with a heavy hand and a determination that 'this is how it is now'. Really? I've been around a long time, and only the last few years has common language become to mean something else. And those of us that have been speaking English language the longest are expected to change. REALLY? WHY? Who says? YOU?

For example: The word 'woman' seems to have become something that should avoid being said. Its now better to use such words as 'menstrators' or ''chestfeeders'. Even when advertising products that are made for women! Stop the NONSENSE!

Often, I read a news story and I really cannot tell if the subject is a man or a woman or a transperson. Its confusing in reporting and speaking and just seems like insisting everyone conform to this new way, without consent, is the morally questionable stance.

The A.I is trying to shut discussion but it failed. They have got nothing to support their arguments and they resort to accusations of 'hate' and 'transphobia' which are meaningless and a sign they've lost the argument.

Double post

a reply to: AlienBorg

So psychology is not something you take into account when forming your opinion?

there is a psychological level to it, and your assessment in that field is rather antiquated. If you even ventured those scientific fields, a total lack of awareness in it would also explain your dense approach on the topic.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

So psychology is not something you take into account when forming your opinion?

there is a psychological level to it, and your assessment in that field is rather antiquated. If you even ventured those scientific fields, a total lack of awareness in it would also explain your dense approach on the topic.

Believing you're in the wrong body is a subject of psychology/psychiatry. It doesn't change the fact you're not the other sex and will never be no matter how much you believe it. Everyone understands how serious this could be when this belief is not treated adequately with psychotherapy. If you affirm the delusion with hormones/surgery you make it infinitely more worse.

Basic stuff

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

Sure there is slight distinction between the two posts they imply diffrent meanings, considering the brute approach, such details are probably lost on some...

Do you know what whataboutism is?

I'd wager a guess and say it's the only rhetorical technique you're familiar with?

I am not the one who tries to avoid answering questions and goes to create some off topic conversation.

Ah, Yes! An answer dictator.

If it’s not exactly the answer you’ve decided is the correct answer it doesn’t count.

You’re not the first.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

Your opinion on the topic is irrelevant.

There is more to humans than their sexual reproduction organs, you claim there isn't. I guess you are speaking from personal experience?

Could be due to limited mental capacities while exploring "self" beyond the physical limitations. It takes evolved brains for such endeavor, you're just showing where you're stuck on this evolutionary path....

My position isn't an opinion.

Yes.

It is.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

Sure there is slight distinction between the two posts they imply diffrent meanings, considering the brute approach, such details are probably lost on some...

Do you know what whataboutism is?

I'd wager a guess and say it's the only rhetorical technique you're familiar with?

I am not the one who tries to avoid answering questions and goes to create some off topic conversation.

Ah, Yes! An answer dictator.

If it’s not exactly the answer you’ve decided is the correct answer it doesn’t count.

You’re not the first.

I think you've dodged the question you were asked many times in the last few pages. What is scientific about transgenderism?

No answer yet and unlikely we will see anything from you.

Can someone be in the wrong body?
Something else you try to push but you always fail because you assert conclusions based on zero facts.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: AlienBorg

Your opinion on the topic is irrelevant.

There is more to humans than their sexual reproduction organs, you claim there isn't. I guess you are speaking from personal experience?

Could be due to limited mental capacities while exploring "self" beyond the physical limitations. It takes evolved brains for such endeavor, you're just showing where you're stuck on this evolutionary path....

My position isn't an opinion.

Yes.

It is.

No it isn't.

a reply to: Annee

People who really believe humans can transform into the opposite sex it's the same as believing in a wild conspiracy theory.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Basic stuff from old psychology...

Keep being a dinosaur, don't be surprised they go extinct...

When you have body dysmorphia, be it anorexia or thinking you're a different gender, we can all agree that it is a mental illness.

The difference is how we approach the two.

With gender, we give in to the patients demands, we accept the false reality that they see when they look in the mirror.

We call the man in women's clothing, "Ma'am" and reaffirm the mental condition.

If we said to the person suffering from anorexia, "Hey fatty-fat, you need to shed a few pounds, lard-butt", we are being cruel.

Isn't it just as cruel to encourage a false body image for folks who "feel" that they are different genders?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When you have body dysmorphia, be it anorexia or thinking you're a different gender, we can all agree that it is a mental illness.

The difference is how we approach the two.

With gender, we give in to the patients demands, we accept the false reality that they see when they look in the mirror.

We call the man in women's clothing, "Ma'am" and reaffirm the mental condition.

If we said to the person suffering from anorexia, "Hey fatty-fat, you need to shed a few pounds, lard-butt", we are being cruel.

Isn't it just as cruel to encourage a false body image for folks who "feel" that they are different genders?

One is approached scientifically the other ideologically with often severe consequences.

a reply to: AlienBorg

well, we know who programmed the bots so I'm not surprised.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: AlienBorg

well, we know who programmed the bots so I'm not surprised.

AI doesn't seem to have an impact.
It has made things worse for the ideologues.
In reality AI can only serve for mediocre purposes but sometimes you can't decide who makes the worse claims. Is it the trans ideologues or the trans programmed-indoctrinated AI?

originally posted by: AlienBorg

True.

This alternate reality is what they call 'brain sex' and other similar terms. It's just a delusion and sane people will have a problem when they are asked to affirm it and participate pretending nothing is wrong.

The problem is you can't say on the one hand it is a mental issue and then on the other tell everyone they must accept it as true even up to the point of allowing men into women's bathrooms, women's sports, or anything else women related. Need to also include that lesbians and heterosexual males need to get on board too and see them as viable partners, or they will be labeled transphobic.

This is how it has spiraled out of control. It was once asked only to provide compassionate understanding and accept them as people with maybe issues, and all that has blown up to what I wrote above.