Bud Light, Your Reputation Is a Mess and There’s No Easy Fix

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Then, as said before, you have no argument.

I am very tolerant, I treat everyone equal. If you are an ahole to me, I will be one right back. If you are nice to me, I will be nice to you. If you try to force your ideology down my throat and call me a bigot/transphobe because I don't care what you "identify" as, I will ignore you and any argument you have or "facts" carry no weight

But your and others' attitude here is antagonistic, and fits the description of bigot.

big·ot

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

Just stop it, quint. That's a revised definition to fit the left's idea of a bigot because y'all love to call everyone else the bigot. Merriam-Webster and Britannica changed that # back when Trump was president, lol.

Cambridge Dictionary:
bigot: a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life.

Vocabulary . com
bigot: A bigot is someone who doesn't tolerate people of different races or religions.

Collins Dictionary
bigot: 1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed, opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person

Dictionary . com
bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Wiktionary
bigot: One who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups, and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, religions, politics, etc.

Oxford LEARNER'S Dictionary
bigot: a person who has very strong, unreasonable beliefs or opinions about race, religion or politics and who will not listen to or accept the opinions of anyone who disagrees.

American Heritage Dictionary
bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.


I'm gonna do you a solid and leave one more for ya...

hypocrite: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that they do not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

transphobia
noun [ U ] disapproving

harmful or unfair things a person does based on a fear or dislike of transgender and non-binary people

yawn

Nothing screams "panic attack" like not showing support for someone's lifestyle.

No wonder that word is misused and so off-base from what a real phobia is, it was made up 10 years ago.

The words transphobia and transphobic were added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2013.

So have transmisia and trans-antagonism, we all just need to figure out when to apply the correct term.

Well, nobody is antagonizing them so I doubt you'll find the right time to use the terms. Disagreeing with their lifestyle doesn't constitute the use of any of the terms you're throwing out. You act like they're being physically attacked everyday or something.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: quintessentone

More made up words to try to cut the argument short when you're losing.

Again, shocking.

I am not trying to win anything and I still say some of you ATSers are antagonistic against transgendered people, so what term do we apply to that? In this case, we may have to make up a new word specific to ATS.

I don't think you're gonna get anywhere -- until you get past mental illness.

Until they understand mental disorder is not mental illness -- pretty much a lost cause.

Yeah, I know but you never know when some of your words may turn on a light bulb.

I look to neuroscience and other sciences for insights regarding transgenderism and other types of different behaviours being experienced by some.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Then, as said before, you have no argument.

I am very tolerant, I treat everyone equal. If you are an ahole to me, I will be one right back. If you are nice to me, I will be nice to you. If you try to force your ideology down my throat and call me a bigot/transphobe because I don't care what you "identify" as, I will ignore you and any argument you have or "facts" carry no weight

But your and others' attitude here is antagonistic, and fits the description of bigot.

big·ot

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

Just stop it, quint. That's a revised definition to fit the left's idea of a bigot because y'all love to call everyone else the bigot. Merriam-Webster and Britannica changed that # back when Trump was president, lol.

Cambridge Dictionary:
bigot: a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life.

Vocabulary . com
bigot: A bigot is someone who doesn't tolerate people of different races or religions.

Collins Dictionary
bigot: 1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed, opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person

Dictionary . com
bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Wiktionary
bigot: One who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups, and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, religions, politics, etc.

Oxford LEARNER'S Dictionary
bigot: a person who has very strong, unreasonable beliefs or opinions about race, religion or politics and who will not listen to or accept the opinions of anyone who disagrees.

American Heritage Dictionary
bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.


I'm gonna do you a solid and leave one more for ya...

hypocrite: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that they do not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

transphobia
noun [ U ] disapproving

harmful or unfair things a person does based on a fear or dislike of transgender and non-binary people

yawn

Nothing screams "panic attack" like not showing support for someone's lifestyle.

No wonder that word is misused and so off-base from what a real phobia is, it was made up 10 years ago.

The words transphobia and transphobic were added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2013.

So have transmisia and trans-antagonism, we all just need to figure out when to apply the correct term.

Well, nobody is antagonizing them so I doubt you'll find the right time to use the terms. Disagreeing with their lifestyle doesn't constitute the use of any of the terms you're throwing out. You act like they're being physically attacked everyday or something.

If you're not accepting of a 26 year old dude caricaturing a 13 year old girl playing adult dress up to tell actual women how to be a women then you're a transphobic bigot.

a reply to: putnam6

They didn't even do the traditional Clydesdale ad for the Super Bowl. I wonder if the same ad exec had her fingers in that choice?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Stigmatized or harms ... too facile. That's "anything that keeps Tham from getting their way."

You will notice that when this all started with changing rooms and locker rooms, response was a separate, private facility that allowed everyone to be out of uncomfortable situations. It was a reasonable compromise.

For the trans, it was all or nothing. Not the locker rooms of their biological sex; that caused discomfort. It had to be the communal locker rooms of their chosen gender where they inflict that same discomfort on all others,but since they are not trans, they're bigots if they object.

And you help make them so.

They acted the same way with gay marriage. It would have been easier to allow the same benefits to a civil union, but that wasn't good enough for them. They wanted to force people to accept gay marriage and force churches to marry the couples, that's all it was really about.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Then, as said before, you have no argument.

I am very tolerant, I treat everyone equal. If you are an ahole to me, I will be one right back. If you are nice to me, I will be nice to you. If you try to force your ideology down my throat and call me a bigot/transphobe because I don't care what you "identify" as, I will ignore you and any argument you have or "facts" carry no weight

But your and others' attitude here is antagonistic, and fits the description of bigot.

big·ot

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

Just stop it, quint. That's a revised definition to fit the left's idea of a bigot because y'all love to call everyone else the bigot. Merriam-Webster and Britannica changed that # back when Trump was president, lol.

Cambridge Dictionary:
bigot: a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life.

Vocabulary . com
bigot: A bigot is someone who doesn't tolerate people of different races or religions.

Collins Dictionary
bigot: 1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed, opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person

Dictionary . com
bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Wiktionary
bigot: One who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups, and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, religions, politics, etc.

Oxford LEARNER'S Dictionary
bigot: a person who has very strong, unreasonable beliefs or opinions about race, religion or politics and who will not listen to or accept the opinions of anyone who disagrees.

American Heritage Dictionary
bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.


I'm gonna do you a solid and leave one more for ya...

hypocrite: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that they do not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

transphobia
noun [ U ] disapproving

harmful or unfair things a person does based on a fear or dislike of transgender and non-binary people

yawn

Nothing screams "panic attack" like not showing support for someone's lifestyle.

No wonder that word is misused and so off-base from what a real phobia is, it was made up 10 years ago.

The words transphobia and transphobic were added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2013.

So have transmisia and trans-antagonism, we all just need to figure out when to apply the correct term.

Well, nobody is antagonizing them so I doubt you'll find the right time to use the terms. Disagreeing with their lifestyle doesn't constitute the use of any of the terms you're throwing out. You act like they're being physically attacked everyday or something.

Really? I consider this discussion and debate and really don't take it to heart. I have my convictions and I do deeper dives into the science of it all, so I'm good with what I know and I understand perfectly well why some here have to resort to insults and twisting facts to make others look bad.

And if you think nobody is antagonistic towards transgender people just do a deep dive on the archived transgender threads here, but if you can't go in with an open mind and an objective attitude then - here we are.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

So, I rest my case. We cannot disagree. If we do, we have "transphobia".

Well, then, you are phobic as well, bigoted, and intolerant of any views except your own. You can no longer even reasonably disagree with us without being a hateful bigot.

Funny, innit?

If you have a different opinion, you are immediately ostracized.

Sounds familiar somehow. . . can't remember where though. . .

. . . hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Tis the way with some here. They think their cases are closed because they say 'case closed'.

Yeah, ummm, "Case Closed" is also another way of saying QED.

"Case Closed" is not the same as labeling someone a bigot.

I said some here are antagonistic towards transgenderism, if they are not bigots then that's good.

There is such a thing as Trans-antagonism and any way you slice it, it's discrimination (as is bigotry).

blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu...

Yeah, guess you nailed it then.

I AM a bigot against groomers, child abusers and pedophiles.

You got me.

I hope you are because groomers, child abusers and pedophiles come in all shapes, sizes and genders.

Mainly transgenders. And priests. A sign of the times.

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

So, I rest my case. We cannot disagree. If we do, we have "transphobia".

Well, then, you are phobic as well, bigoted, and intolerant of any views except your own. You can no longer even reasonably disagree with us without being a hateful bigot.

Conservaphobia is real.

Bruh!

TM that snip...quick.

I should, lol.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

So, I rest my case. We cannot disagree. If we do, we have "transphobia".

Well, then, you are phobic as well, bigoted, and intolerant of any views except your own. You can no longer even reasonably disagree with us without being a hateful bigot.

Funny, innit?

If you have a different opinion, you are immediately ostracized.

Sounds familiar somehow. . . can't remember where though. . .

. . . hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Tis the way with some here. They think their cases are closed because they say 'case closed'.

Yeah, ummm, "Case Closed" is also another way of saying QED.

"Case Closed" is not the same as labeling someone a bigot.

I said some here are antagonistic towards transgenderism, if they are not bigots then that's good.

There is such a thing as Trans-antagonism and any way you slice it, it's discrimination (as is bigotry).

blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu...

Yeah, guess you nailed it then.

I AM a bigot against groomers, child abusers and pedophiles.

You got me.

I hope you are because groomers, child abusers and pedophiles come in all shapes, sizes and genders.

Mainly transgenders. And priests. A sign of the times.

Read a few sexual assault and rape studies then get back to me.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

So, I rest my case. We cannot disagree. If we do, we have "transphobia".

Well, then, you are phobic as well, bigoted, and intolerant of any views except your own. You can no longer even reasonably disagree with us without being a hateful bigot.

Conservaphobia is real.

I actually think some conservative policies are good, but that's not what you want to hear now is it?

No. What I want to hear is you admit that your terms are misused and it isn't any kind of phobia just for disagreeing with a lifestyle.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

So, I rest my case. We cannot disagree. If we do, we have "transphobia".

Well, then, you are phobic as well, bigoted, and intolerant of any views except your own. You can no longer even reasonably disagree with us without being a hateful bigot.

Conservaphobia is real.

I actually think some conservative policies are good, but that's not what you want to hear now is it?

No. What I want to hear is you admit that your terms are misused and it isn't any kind of phobia just for disagreeing with a lifestyle.

I was referring to the antagonism I see here, that's different from just disagreeing with someone's lifestyle. Do you not see that? People boycotting a beer company, because of a transgender ad, what the hell is that?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: quintessentone

More made up words to try to cut the argument short when you're losing.

Again, shocking.

I am not trying to win anything and I still say some of you ATSers are antagonistic against transgendered people, so what term do we apply to that? In this case, we may have to make up a new word specific to ATS.

Disagree

to have or express a different opinion.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: quintessentone

More made up words to try to cut the argument short when you're losing.

Again, shocking.

I am not trying to win anything and I still say some of you ATSers are antagonistic against transgendered people, so what term do we apply to that? In this case, we may have to make up a new word specific to ATS.

Disagree

to have or express a different opinion.

I think I found the perfect term - anti-trans. All encompassing isn't it?

This made some people very mad, and not because Holly Golightly wasn’t really a beer gal (her preference was the White Angel, a boozy mix of vodka and gin, which, whew). Instead, they were upset because Mulvaney is transgender.

Trans issues are currently front and center in America’s culture war. Anti-trans sentiment is sweeping many corners of the right, targeting children, drag shows, driver’s licenses, and health care, among other areas. It’s showing up in conservative media and conservative legislation and even working itself into the mainstream.

www.vox.com...

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Stigmatized or harms ... too facile. That's "anything that keeps Tham from getting their way."

You will notice that when this all started with changing rooms and locker rooms, response was a separate, private facility that allowed everyone to be out of uncomfortable situations. It was a reasonable compromise.

For the trans, it was all or nothing. Not the locker rooms of their biological sex; that caused discomfort. It had to be the communal locker rooms of their chosen gender where they inflict that same discomfort on all others,but since they are not trans, they're bigots if they object.

And you help make them so.

They acted the same way with gay marriage. It would have been easier to allow the same benefits to a civil union, but that wasn't good enough for them.

And why should it be?

a reply to: quintessentone

As if the left aren't the champions of cancel culture.

Maybe the real problem is that the tactic isn't supposed to be employed in reverse.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

So, I rest my case. We cannot disagree. If we do, we have "transphobia".

Well, then, you are phobic as well, bigoted, and intolerant of any views except your own. You can no longer even reasonably disagree with us without being a hateful bigot.

Funny, innit?

If you have a different opinion, you are immediately ostracized.

Sounds familiar somehow. . . can't remember where though. . .

. . . hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Tis the way with some here. They think their cases are closed because they say 'case closed'.

Yeah, ummm, "Case Closed" is also another way of saying QED.

"Case Closed" is not the same as labeling someone a bigot.

I said some here are antagonistic towards transgenderism, if they are not bigots then that's good.

There is such a thing as Trans-antagonism and any way you slice it, it's discrimination (as is bigotry).

blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu...

Oh the drama. Please stop. I don't know how much longer I can go on if this continues.

Exactly, the volume of squealing and angst over not getting complete acceptance and understanding is ridiculous and unrealistic.

Perhaps it's because most of us grew up with our Dads, Moms, and older brothers telling us every time we had a personal crisis or grievance, to get a grip or put on their big boy pants and/or suck it up buttercup. Some did otherwise and it drove them absolutely bonkers, thus thats where we are.

330 million people aren't gonna agree on everything. Everybody has their line in the sand

a reply to: putnam6

LOL Please in this day and age Kevin Hart got canceled from the Oscars on some stuff he said years ago in a tweet, and now you expect everybody to differentiate this Bud Light Dylan promotion from a regular Bud Light promotion? Talk about being disconnected from reality

Well, yeah... but that's not a justification for anyone else... just whataboutism. "Johnny did it first" doesn't cut it.

And, frankly, it's damn sad that people pretending to take the moral high ground would do the same as those they criticize and condemn for doing it. No moral high ground there. Just another mud wallowing competition.

As for the rest of your post, it seems to indicate that years and years of frustration and outrage found an easy target in Bud Light. Not because Bud Light did anything awful. Certainly not nearly as bad as what others have done. Bud Light was just an easy target, doing the "wrong" thing at the "right" time.

Boom!

Our only concern with the Trans agenda/ideology/activism should be that which hurts others and tramples the rights of others. That's it. A trans person endorsing a particular product on their own social media isn't a threat to anyone.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

It's always funny how that is the first thing people run to in cases like this, "transphobia". Such a lame excuse.

There is a tiny heterophobic minority. 0.000whatever percentage of the population has sexual or gender issues, it´s not the 99.9999whatever percentage of people who have no problems with their sexuality or gender who are "transphobic". The majority only wants to be left alone with all that made up sexuality+gender BS. Normal people don´t run around 24/7 and tell and show everybody, unasked of course, that they are hetero. So why do the not hetero people make such a fuss?

If the sheer majority of normal, average people would be transphobic and would hate gays, "chicks" with d!cks and whatever else of that rainbow colored nonsense then this tiny, tiny minority wouldn´t even exist or only in the deepest, deepest underground, unseen and unheard.

It´s not the majority that´s "transphobic", it´s this tiny but loud minority that is heterophobic!

They dig their own grave and don´t even notice it. My whole life there were gays, guys in womens clothes and what else, they all could live their life in peace, could run around in womens clothes on a monday noon on Colognes most frequented shopping mile and most people didn´t care, some laughed maybe a bit, shaked their heads maybe and that was it. Happens if you run around for example in leather mini skirts, a leather belly top, black fishnet stockings, high heels and that topped with a huge full beard. But i bet such people love the attention they create and are happy about all the different reactions, as long as nobody gets attacked or harmed.

Meanwhile it´s different, formerly tolerant people who never had a problem with other people and their whatever issues have enough of all that rainbow BS because you are confronted with that crap everywhere and all the time, wherever you are. Man, football pros are forbidden to do their job if they don´t wear rainbow trikots and BS, what effing fascist BS is this?

It´s a propaganda drumfire like with that Corona, that Ukraine or that climate BS. And people know that all that is done for for a few hundred people when it´s many, from 84 million of german citizens. That fact is what turns formerly accepting people into rejectionist people. If you are fed with the same BS rainbow colored soup for years meanwhile, a soup you didn´t even order and nobody really wants (except the few exceptions that confirm the rule of course), then you start to hate that soup, sooner or later. Especially when it´s still served day by day, as breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks in between.

Too much is simply too much, especially when it´s obviously a from the top of the pyramid driven agenda, part of the transformation to whatever BS. And the rainbow warriors don´t even notice how they are the useful idiots for those money bags in charge who push that agenda like they push Great Reset, Green New Deal and all that socialism NWO BS. These rainbow warriors are the same useful idiots like the climate warriors, like the cancel culture warriors, the censor everything if it´s not my opinion warriors etc

If they push that agenda a little more then these people will not roam around in their costumes anymore, they will not have anything in public anymore like their CSD rainbow carnival, they will have to hide to kiss each other if they are from the same gender and all that.

Simply because they push themselves into the abyss with their intolerant behavior of not getting enough of everything, with demanding even more than the society is willing to give them. With terrorizing average people with their BS issues. Same happened with that corona BS agenda, with the Ukraine agenda, with the climate agenda, too much is too much and people act exactly the other way around as wished if the pushers push their agendas too far.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

As if the left aren't the champions of cancel culture.

Maybe the real problem is that the tactic isn't supposed to be employed in reverse.

I don't follow what the left or right do, that's not my lifestyle but don't both cancel parts of each other's culture out?

originally posted by: quintessentone


It's more than objection, it's trans-antagonism and it's looking uglier and uglier.

The beer company didn't do it for political values, they were following what they believed to be a marketing ploy, that being inclusivity will bring in more consumers (younger generations). The beer company only now realizes that some of their consumers have made this a political issue, they were obviously slow clue in.

This is a political issue. Rights are being taken away from women with vaginas and given to women with a penis (do a re-read of what I wrote). Laws and regulations have been written that punish women with vaginas (40%+ of whom statistics say have been sexually attacked by a penis) for complaining about a naked penis in the same area where they are changing or using the restroom. Laws were written punishing women with vaginas in prison for complaining about a women with a penis being locked in a cell with them, with no means of escape. Laws are being written that have resulted in women/girls with vaginas being badly injured in sports by a larger, stronger woman with a penis.

The inclusivity movement is very evangelistic, in that it insists one must convert to their point of view, which is the only true way that people should think and behave. This inslusivity movement insists that to be a good person one must agree that women with a penis do deserve MORE rights than women with vaginas, because they have been mistreated in the past. That that is the crux of inclusivity as is stand now when it comes to transgenderism. Re-read my original answer to see all the ways that the inclusivity movement has demanded that women with a penis be treated better and must have more rights than women with vaginas. This movement is an ugly and misogynistic movement that sets back our culture by at least 50 years.