Moderators, are we trying to improve ATS or NOT

a reply to: Darko

What happens in the pit, stays in the pit
I can troll the hell out of people. I was laughing my ass off because that dude was one of the loudest and when he got a taste of it he ran off and cried in his pillow. OMG.. that's going to be a running joke for a while now!

Some of us might disagree with you on that. It looked pretty bad when others on that thread were getting their posts removed right and left while you continued on your self professed trolling spree. Then, it looks even worse when you look at that person's posting history and you see a comment that was made to that thread separated out, made into it's own thread dated December 31, 1969, and it leads to a forum homepage rather than the comment. Was that just another one of those "glitches" that you mentioned on page two of that thread and that you're working on to improve the site?

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: JinMI

But we don't lose quite a few posters.
If the poster is prolific, it will seem more obvious to the board.

The posting ban is the interim state of that process.

Banning is almost always permanent.
Members sometimes return under a new account, and if they abide by the T&C, remain as would any member in good standing.
Sometimes, members do appeal, using CONTACT US. It doesn't happen all that often. Easier to come back as news, I guess.

Thank you for filling in some blanks, appreciated.

I didn't remove anyone's comments. We were in the pit. If another mod did it, the user would get a message from the mod who did it so he should know who did it and if he didn't share that info then that's lying by omission or if he did and said it was me that's just a flat out lie. And I have no idea what you're talking about or how that would happen. Got a link?

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Darko

What happens in the pit, stays in the pit
I can troll the hell out of people. I was laughing my ass off because that dude was one of the loudest and when he got a taste of it he ran off and cried in his pillow. OMG.. that's going to be a running joke for a while now!

Some of us might disagree with you on that. It looked pretty bad when others on that thread were getting their posts removed right and left while you continued on your self professed trolling spree. Then, it looks even worse when you look at that person's posting history and you see a comment that was made to that thread separated out, made into it's own thread dated December 31, 1969, and it leads to a forum homepage rather than the comment. Was that just another one of those "glitches" that you mentioned on page two of that thread and that you're working on to improve the site?

a reply to: Darko

So, we're currently working on ways to incentivize that and also making sure people feel comfortable expressing themselves

put us on the blockchain.

:-)

a reply to: Darko

I didn't remove anyone's comments. We were in the pit. If another mod did it, the user would get a message from the mod who did it so he should know who did it and if he didn't share that info then that's lying by omission or if he did and said it was me that's just a flat out lie. And I have no idea what you're talking about or how that would happen. Got a link?

Yes, there were mods in that thread removing posts. I only know the name of the mod that removed one of my posts for asking what happened to a previous poster that either closed his account during the discussion or was banned. I wouldn't know the name of the mod removing everyone else's posts on that thread. (By the way, at one time, we used to be able to tell who was "banned" and who wasn't on their profile.)

Moving on to the poster you were complaining about earlier, if you look at the first comment that he made to the thread about the Mud Pit Being Put on Hold, it shows that it's in it's own thread (with the same name) and authored back on December 31, 1969. When you click on that comment, it just leads you to the forum selection page and not the comment.

It's moderately difficult considering the way the site has scattered everything all throughout the database. But it's not too difficult just time consuming and I have some really big things going on with my businesses right now so the time I have to volunteer to ATS is limited. I have a new site on my local development though. I would just rather make sure it's solid before even considering launching it and I'm far from that stage.

You know what though. The biggest problem I've been facing is making sure users can still access their accounts. I might just go ahead and reincorporate OneAll, problem solved. I just hate their customer service. It took 5 days to get a generic response from them and when things go wrong everyone's looking at me like "when are you going to fix it" and I'm at the mercy of third party companies writing me back. So I was trying to avoid that. But yea, I'll prob implement it back into the new site.

originally posted by: randomuser

originally posted by: Darko
We're working on fixing up the site. I'm not sure what kind of grand plan you all think is going on in the background but there isn't. I spent what, 6 or 8 hours speaking to people about how they felt about the pit and managed to find a solution to keep it online but off the other pages. Had I not stepped in, it would have just been shut down.

What would you all be happy to hear? Because I can tell you whatever but it won't be true.

In regard to banning people, no one gets banned for a single post. There are some users with over 200 user complaints, off topic replies, posts removed / moved to the trash bin etc. etc. So while it may look like it was due to a single post, in reality there are a TON of warnings, waaay too many in my opinion.

Imagine you're a mod and you've had to warn someone over 200 times. At some point you're just going to go. "OK, I'm done dealing with you".

How difficult would it be to build a new site from the ground up? My kid went to school for programming 4 years. And has been programming for a couple years now. He can usually get a website up and running for a small business in a few hours and can charge thousands of dollars for it. I can't imagine this is much more difficult than the web pages he designs for companies. But I'm not that familiar with programming so I could be totally wrong.

ETA:

I remember the other night he was designing a web page and he said something like, hey dad see this webpage? You want to see it change to dark mode when you have dark mode enabled? He went into the coding and typed something in, it was less than a line. And then published it and boom, the webpage would change between normal and dark mode depending on how your system is set. I said, hey why don't more websites have this function if it is that easy to do? I know more and more websites do have it. And perhaps websites using old coding or programming languages aren't that easy to program.

I changed his name to Sandy Vagina but my wife smacked me trolling someone in the pit is one thing, changing a username like that was crossing the line so I changed it back. Probably just a post I missed when reconnecting his account. He requested his account gets shut down. And I wasn't complaining about him at all. I had fun with him! I even told him I'm not going to ban him, he's good, etc. etc. Go see the post. He left on his own to go cry in his pillow. But thank you for acknowledging that it wasn't me. I'm not going to engage in "pit like behavior" and then use my admin status to troll people. That would be underhanded. I'm a far better troll than that. My wife called me a "white hat troll" until I hit the name change. and yea, even though he told me to do it, that would have been taking advantage of my mod status and that's not cool.

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Darko

I didn't remove anyone's comments. We were in the pit. If another mod did it, the user would get a message from the mod who did it so he should know who did it and if he didn't share that info then that's lying by omission or if he did and said it was me that's just a flat out lie. And I have no idea what you're talking about or how that would happen. Got a link?

Yes, there were mods in that thread removing posts. I only know the name of the mod that removed one of my posts for asking what happened to a previous poster that either closed his account during the discussion or was banned. I wouldn't know the name of the mod removing everyone else's posts on that thread. (By the way, at one time, we used to be able to tell who was "banned" and who wasn't on their profile.)

Moving on to the poster you were complaining about earlier, if you look at the first comment that he made to the thread about the Mud Pit Being Put on Hold, it shows that it's in it's own thread (with the same name) and authored back on December 31, 1969. When you click on that comment, it just leads you to the forum selection page and not the comment.

If the users want to chip in 5 grand collectively, I'll find a dev who can put together a new site pretty quickly. So, we're open to that. Whoever wants to handle the money is more than welcome to but I've got someone good who can take care of it if time is of the essence.

Do you think we can manage that? I'll welcome back any banned users who chip in regardless of the amount. It would be a sign of good faith that they're investing in the platform and all I would ask is they just respect the TOS... and I'll give them much more leeway but I think if they're willing to chip in for site expansion then I don't think they would come back screwing around because they'll value their investment.

a reply to: Darko

Is it even feasible to keep all of the collected posts?

Would it go into an archive or something?

In the past, we have talked and agreed, as a community to contribute if it is needed.

I'm not so sure that would apply to a new forum without all of the old data.

Blockchain is something I've never been able to grasp. I don't think websites can be hosted on there. I know some pages, apps, etc, can but not whole websites. I keep hearing about it though but it seems to be more crypto / financial based rather than hosting a website. If there is a way.. I'd be happy to do that but from my initial research it was pretty pricey to host an app. Do you have anymore info?

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Darko

So, we're currently working on ways to incentivize that and also making sure people feel comfortable expressing themselves

put us on the blockchain.

:-)

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