Sudden Deaths More Than Double In Germany

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have form on your untested claims, remember?

I do.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Sorry Carp...

but you're splitting hairs. Undertested is untested for all intents and purposes. The participants were low in number, and they took no one who had any kind of existing co-morbidity. The time periods of the trials were a minute fraction of what the standard has been for decades, not to mention that they completely hid the negative data. The release of that info was forced by the court.

It was, at a minimum, wildly irresponsible. I lean more towards criminally negligent.

a reply to: Kenzo

Geez , to bad that didn't Happen during WWII ..........

a reply to: Terpene


I also Suspect 5G in fact , as one culprit. WE have to also remember that most likely , at about 99% certainty or even 100% , the covid jabs were designed to have combined effect with 5G ( probably with other RF also ) by including something in it that reacts with 5G , like graphene oxide .

a reply to: Zanti Misfit


Hitler would have been furious , really pissed off and then decide to do suicide . Not before having long rant where he bitch everybody for failing to protect Germans .

a reply to: oddnutz

My my....didn`t they have hurry

I would be interested in seeing the raw data. "Sudden an unexpected death" is rather vague. Sounds sensationalist, more like something the media would say than a physician.

a reply to: Kenzo

Well, thats quite a leap there...

It's much more probable, that someone knew the impact our new tech would have and they decided to bank on it.
If the theory postulated in the book i mentioned earlier holds up, they knew the implementation of 5g and starlink will cause a major pandemic.

a reply to: Terpene


Yeeh i know the book theory , it does hold up with previous pandemics/ flu sickness times, going back decades and decades.


Look`s like CT were right with wearing tinfoil hats

originally posted by: Phage
I would be interested in seeing the raw data. "Sudden an unexpected death" is rather vague. Sounds sensationalist, more like something the media would say than a physician.

Apparently the data was analysed 'exclusively'

This is the result of data from the Association of Statutory Health Insurance Physicians (KBV), which Martin Sichert was able to evaluate exclusively together with data expert Tom Lause, and made public at a press conference earlier today..

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have form on your untested claims, remember?

I do.

Indeed these products are still experimental and most importantly untested.

Just for reference again as it is a crucial point which most people don't understand. What is testing?

Testing is not injecting humans and waiting to see if they have an immune response. Testing is a lengthy process that involves checking for whether the product prevents transmission, infection. If they don't, then do they reduce transmission and infection? And if so by how much? For the record Pfizer forgot to test for transmission as they were moving at the speed of 'science'

Testing tried to establish whether the products have short, medium, and long term adverse reactions and/or serious adverse reactions. It's one of the most important checkpoints in this process which has been bypassed given the very little time available and regardless of the reassurances by the medical authorities. Emergency authorisation if you remember.

Nothing was known when these products were released for use in the general population. Transmission, infection, short, medium, long term effects, and the benefit to risk ratio in all age groups.

We are just started seeing the short term effects of these products which are very unpleasant.

The Phase3 clinical trial never happened at that time due to the lack of time. The Phase3 clinical trial is what we are experiencing now where a very large number of the human population takes part in a experiment, often many are unwilling to participate but do so because they were coerced and pressured, intimidated, blackmailed and threatened with dismissal from their employers. Hence against their will and without giving informed consent.



Given the circumstances and as I said in another thread this is more like a crime against humanity.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have form on your untested claims, remember?

I do.

Indeed these products are still experimental and most importantly untested.

Just for reference again as it is a crucial point which most people don't understand. What is testing?

Testing is not injecting humans and waiting to see if they have an immune response. Testing is a lengthy process that involves checking for whether the product prevents transmission, infection. If they don't, then do they reduce transmission and infection? And if so by how much? For the record Pfizer forgot to test for transmission as they were moving at the speed of 'science'

Testing tried to establish whether the products have short, medium, and long term adverse reactions and/or serious adverse reactions. It's one of the most important checkpoints in this process which has been bypassed given the very little time available and regardless of the reassurances by the medical authorities. Emergency authorisation if you remember.

Nothing was known when these products were released for use in the general population. Transmission, infection, short, medium, long term effects, and the benefit to risk ratio in all age groups.

The Phase3 clinical trial never happened at that time due to the lack of time. The Phase3 clinical trial is what we are experiencing now where a very large number of the human population takes part in a experiment, often many are unwilling to participate but do so because they are coerced and pressured, intimidated, blackmailed and threatened with dismissal from their employers.

We are just started seeing the short term effects of these products which are very unpleasant.

Given the circumstances and as I said in another thread this is more like a crime against humanity.

Phase 3 trials were done.

www.pfizer.com...

They didn't forget to test for transmission, it was never part of requirement that it was done prior to approval.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have form on your untested claims, remember?

I do.

Indeed these products are still experimental and most importantly untested.

Just for reference again as it is a crucial point which most people don't understand. What is testing?

Testing is not injecting humans and waiting to see if they have an immune response. Testing is a lengthy process that involves checking for whether the product prevents transmission, infection. If they don't, then do they reduce transmission and infection? And if so by how much? For the record Pfizer forgot to test for transmission as they were moving at the speed of 'science'

Testing tried to establish whether the products have short, medium, and long term adverse reactions and/or serious adverse reactions. It's one of the most important checkpoints in this process which has been bypassed given the very little time available and regardless of the reassurances by the medical authorities. Emergency authorisation if you remember.

Nothing was known when these products were released for use in the general population. Transmission, infection, short, medium, long term effects, and the benefit to risk ratio in all age groups.

The Phase3 clinical trial never happened at that time due to the lack of time. The Phase3 clinical trial is what we are experiencing now where a very large number of the human population takes part in a experiment, often many are unwilling to participate but do so because they are coerced and pressured, intimidated, blackmailed and threatened with dismissal from their employers.

We are just started seeing the short term effects of these products which are very unpleasant.

Given the circumstances and as I said in another thread this is more like a crime against humanity.

Phase 3 trials were done.

www.pfizer.com...

They didn't forget to test for transmission, it was never part of requirement that it was done prior to approval.

What are you talking about? Do you live in a state of denial?

There is no debate on this one.
Are you linking the Pfizer website as proof of completion of phase clinical trials ?!?!
Did you not hear they were moving at the speed of 'science' and they forgot to test their products?

Don't need to engage further. This is a lost cause. You are just wasting your time here.

We don't need vaccine apologetics and defence of Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have form on your untested claims, remember?

I do.

Indeed these products are still experimental and most importantly untested.

Just for reference again as it is a crucial point which most people don't understand. What is testing?

Testing is not injecting humans and waiting to see if they have an immune response. Testing is a lengthy process that involves checking for whether the product prevents transmission, infection. If they don't, then do they reduce transmission and infection? And if so by how much? For the record Pfizer forgot to test for transmission as they were moving at the speed of 'science'

Testing tried to establish whether the products have short, medium, and long term adverse reactions and/or serious adverse reactions. It's one of the most important checkpoints in this process which has been bypassed given the very little time available and regardless of the reassurances by the medical authorities. Emergency authorisation if you remember.

Nothing was known when these products were released for use in the general population. Transmission, infection, short, medium, long term effects, and the benefit to risk ratio in all age groups.

The Phase3 clinical trial never happened at that time due to the lack of time. The Phase3 clinical trial is what we are experiencing now where a very large number of the human population takes part in a experiment, often many are unwilling to participate but do so because they are coerced and pressured, intimidated, blackmailed and threatened with dismissal from their employers.

We are just started seeing the short term effects of these products which are very unpleasant.

Given the circumstances and as I said in another thread this is more like a crime against humanity.

Phase 3 trials were done.

www.pfizer.com...

They didn't forget to test for transmission, it was never part of requirement that it was done prior to approval.

What are you talking about? Do you live in a state of denial?

There is no debate on this one.
Are you linking the Pfizer website as proof of completion of phase clinical trials ?!?!
Did you not hear they were moving at the speed of 'science' and they forgot to test their products?

Don't need to engage further. This is a lost cause. You are just wasting your time here.

We don't need vaccine apologetics and defence of Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies.

Was pointing out that, yet again, you are mistaken/lying about easily checkable facts

And sorry you don't get to decide who posts on this site, but at least you are admitting you want an echo chamber for your errors.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have form on your untested claims, remember?

I do.

Indeed these products are still experimental and most importantly untested.

Just for reference again as it is a crucial point which most people don't understand. What is testing?

Testing is not injecting humans and waiting to see if they have an immune response. Testing is a lengthy process that involves checking for whether the product prevents transmission, infection. If they don't, then do they reduce transmission and infection? And if so by how much? For the record Pfizer forgot to test for transmission as they were moving at the speed of 'science'

Testing tried to establish whether the products have short, medium, and long term adverse reactions and/or serious adverse reactions. It's one of the most important checkpoints in this process which has been bypassed given the very little time available and regardless of the reassurances by the medical authorities. Emergency authorisation if you remember.

Nothing was known when these products were released for use in the general population. Transmission, infection, short, medium, long term effects, and the benefit to risk ratio in all age groups.

The Phase3 clinical trial never happened at that time due to the lack of time. The Phase3 clinical trial is what we are experiencing now where a very large number of the human population takes part in a experiment, often many are unwilling to participate but do so because they are coerced and pressured, intimidated, blackmailed and threatened with dismissal from their employers.

We are just started seeing the short term effects of these products which are very unpleasant.

Given the circumstances and as I said in another thread this is more like a crime against humanity.

Phase 3 trials were done.

www.pfizer.com...

They didn't forget to test for transmission, it was never part of requirement that it was done prior to approval.

What are you talking about? Do you live in a state of denial?

There is no debate on this one.
Are you linking the Pfizer website as proof of completion of phase clinical trials ?!?!
Did you not hear they were moving at the speed of 'science' and they forgot to test their products?

Don't need to engage further. This is a lost cause. You are just wasting your time here.

We don't need vaccine apologetics and defence of Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies.

Was pointing out that, yet again, you are mistaken/lying about easily checkable facts

And sorry you don't get to decide who posts on this site, but at least you are admitting you want an echo chamber for you errors.

Yes I am 'mistaken' and 'lying' as you say. Just as many others here who don't engage in vaccine apologetics and denialism of facts and/or defending Pfizer and the pharmaceuticals.

I am sure anyone can check the evidence and come to some conclusions. Unlikely it would be what you have concluded above.

Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Thousands you say?

Data demonstrate vaccine was well tolerated across all populations with over 43,000 participants enrolled; no serious safety concerns observed; the only Grade 3 adverse event greater than 2% in frequency was fatigue at 3.8% and headache at 2.0%

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Thousands you say?

Data demonstrate vaccine was well tolerated across all populations with over 43,000 participants enrolled; no serious safety concerns observed; the only Grade 3 adverse event greater than 2% in frequency was fatigue at 3.8% and headache at 2.0%

That's the only thing they got right as it seems. They recruited plenty of volunteers.

But did they establish whether the product prevents transmission? Major checkpoint

Did the establish whether these products prevent infection? Major checkpoint

Did they establish the short, medium and long term effects before releasing them into the market? Which is a major checkpoint.

Did they establish the benefit to risk ratio in all age groups?

Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.

I think one must be engaging in a lot of vaccine apologetics and denialism of they still argue that these products are safe and effective.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

The prevention of transmission was never a requirement prior to release. Doesn't natter how many times you say it it doesn't become one.

And yes they checked for efficacy against infection. That is one of the main metrics used.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3

The prevention of transmission was never a requirement prior to release. Doesn't natter how many times you say it it doesn't become one.

And yes they checked for efficacy against infection. That is one of the main metrics used.

You must be having a laugh!!!

Prevention of transmission and infection.is an integral part of any vaccine trials and so does everything else such as establishing the short, medium and long term effects and the benefit to risk ratio in all age groups.

None of them happened as there was not enough time and that is why these products came into the market with an emergency authorisation.

The Phase3 clinical trial is non existent.

Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.

Sudden and unexpected deaths? Excess deaths? I am not surprised.

Your quoted paragraph says no serious safety concerns observed at that time.

Yes....apart from myocarditis, pericarditis, heart failure, autoimmune disorders, thrombosis with thrombocytopenia, allergic reactions, strokes, heart attacks, sudden deaths, etc.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Please provide a source for your claim that prevention of transmission was a requirement.