Abortions - Why so bad?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: Annee

"Reproduction" takes two people.
A man and a woman.
Man can't reproduce without a woman.
A woman can't reproduce without a man.
Who's "reproductive rights" are we referring to?

Yours and Yours

The human being's life cycle is a continuum.
It begins at conception.
It ends at death.
There are many stages between those two events.
They are human beings from the very beginning to the very end.
Zygot, embryo and fetus are stages just like baby, toddler and adolescent.
If you wouldn't kill a baby, toddler or adolescent, why would you kill a zygote, embryo or fetuses?

And if no one would have spoken out against slavery?
Or the killing of the Jews?
You might not like it but they are all human beings.
Not property.
Not Untermensch.

Property of a woman's body is her property.

The body in her body is not her body.
Do you own human beings now?

a reply to: Quadrivium

I am with you, I don't want this to continue, but the leaders won't tweek things to make women want to keep their babies, and we as women know most women want to keep their babies, under certain circumstances.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: Quadrivium

I am with you, I don't want this to continue, but the leaders won't tweek things to make women want to keep their babies, and we as women know most women want to keep their babies, under certain circumstances.

Not all of you, ask sookie.
Human life means nothing other than "outsmarting biology".
Her post and Anne's are there for the world to see.
They, and those like them, are the reason I take the position I do.
It is NOT about the "Leaders".
It is about misinformation, control and the almighty dollar.
Look at the links I posted.

In 99% of cases it is also about choice and personal responsibility.
Are there other reasons for abortions?
YES, I never said there wasn't.
Yet, some do not care about the "right to choose", "reproduction rights" or the "right to life".
They act on the propaganda pushed by the "leaders". It is all about control. for them, nothing more.
Meanwhile the "leaders" rake in the dollars from their ignorance.

Question for the thread who are in favor of abortions.

Would you abort a baby if you knew that baby was going to be LBGTQX, gay, non-binary, Trans or Lesbian? Or an African American trans?

a reply to: quintessentone
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originally posted by: Brassmonkey
Question for the thread who are in favor of abortions.

Would you abort a baby if you knew that baby was going to be LBGTQX, gay, non-binary, Trans or Lesbian? Or an African American trans?

Personally, if the baby did not pose a threat to the mother's health or was not the result of rape or incest, there is no rational basis to kill them.

a reply to: Quadrivium

Not all of you, ask sookie.
Human life means nothing other than "outsmarting biology".

It's all about self-determination, and not being a victim of biology. But there you go again, proving how you can't comprehend anything that doesn't sound like your own voice and its echo.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Quadrivium

Not all of you, ask sookie.
Human life means nothing other than "outsmarting biology".

It's all about self-determination, and not being a victim of biology. But there you go again, proving how you can't comprehend anything that doesn't sound like your own voice and its echo.

BS.
In 99% of cases they, like their partners, are victims of their OWN free and Willful CHOICES.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: Quadrivium

I am with you, I don't want this to continue, but the leaders won't tweek things to make women want to keep their babies, and we as women know most women want to keep their babies, under certain circumstances.

The thing is - it's not Pro Abortion -- it's Pro Choice.

The Right to Choose in regard to your own personal reproduction choices.

No matter how diligent you are with your birth control methods -- they are not 100% foolproof.

Do you know any woman who sets out to get pregnant just so she can have an abortion? That's crazy. Of course not.

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Quadrivium

Not all of you, ask sookie.
Human life means nothing other than "outsmarting biology".

It's all about self-determination, and not being a victim of biology. But there you go again, proving how you can't comprehend anything that doesn't sound like your own voice and its echo.

BS.
In 99% of cases they, like their partners, are victims of their OWN free and Willful CHOICES.

Which is your way of saying "free-will, self-determination and refusing to be a victim of biology".

a reply to: Annee

The thing is - it's not Pro Abortion -- it's Pro Choice.

Choice....
In 99% of cases the choice was made to TRY and create that life BEFORE the choice to end it.

No matter how diligent you are with your birth control methods -- they are not 100% foolproof.

EXACTLY!!
THANK YOU!
This was a KNOWN fact BEFORE the engagement in the act of reproduction. You admit it was a CHOICE, even though you KNEW the possible outcome.

Do you know any woman who sets out to get pregnant just so she can have an abortion? That's crazy. Of course not.

Yet, men and women do it EVERY minute of EVERY day.
In 99% of abortions, the couple involved KNEW the following:
*Sex between a male and female, of the human species with healthy reproduction systems, is how we reproduce.
*We ALL know that there is no 100% effective form of birth control (besides the premeditated killing of another human being).
*That pregnancy was a possibility of the choice to engage in the act of reproduction.

Thank you Anne.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Quadrivium

Not all of you, ask sookie.
Human life means nothing other than "outsmarting biology".

It's all about self-determination, and not being a victim of biology. But there you go again, proving how you can't comprehend anything that doesn't sound like your own voice and its echo.

BS.
In 99% of cases they, like their partners, are victims of their OWN free and Willful CHOICES.

Which is your way of saying "free-will, self-determination and refusing to be a victim of biology".

Um....lol
No.
It is my way of saying that abortion in 99% of cases is the premeditated, violent killing of another human being, for convenience.

a reply to: Quadrivium

POTENTIAL human being.

You call it convenience; I call it self-determination. We're talking about the same thing, reason and rationale for a deliberate act.

a reply to: Quadrivium

In 99% of cases the choice was made to TRY and create that life BEFORE the choice to end it.

Nope! Nobody who doesn't want to get pregnant tries to get pregnant.

a reply to: Sookiechacha
How do humans reproduce, sookie?
What are you...5?

a reply to: Quadrivium

Reproduce isn't the operate word here. "Try" is.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Quadrivium

Reproduce isn't the operate word here. "Try" is.

More faith based BS.
How many of us would be here if we were "planned"?
The majority of us are "accidents".
Regardless, facts are facts:
In 99% of abortions, the couple involved KNEW the following:
*Sex between a male and female, of the human species with healthy reproduction systems, is how we reproduce.
*We ALL know that there is no 100% effective form of birth control (besides the premeditated killing of another human being).
*That pregnancy was a possibility of the choice to engage in the act of reproduction.

Please don't comment again unless you have something other than faith and feelz.
Thank you.

a reply to: Quadrivium

How many of us would be here if we were "planned"?
The majority of us are "accidents".

How is this response not a plea from feelz?

*We ALL know that there is no 100% effective form of birth control (besides the premeditated killing of another human being).
*That pregnancy was a possibility of the choice to engage in the act of reproduction.

That's what abortions are for.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

How is this response not a plea from feelz?

Um....
Because it is a factual statement to your absurd faith based comment.......

That's what abortions are for.

So you admit you see it as just a form of birth control, nothing more.

Abortion is the premeditated, violent killing of another human being for convenience, in 99% of cases.

a reply to: Quadrivium

So you admit you see it as just a form of birth control, nothing more.

Abortion can be seen as an insurance policy against the accident of an unplanned pregnancy....and so much more.