Abortions - Why so bad?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: mtnshredder

Well, this is what you said:

Should men have a choice and say in the matter? If a women was to decide to have the baby, can I as a male choose not to support a child I may not want?

You're all about men having equal rights of aborting their parental duties too, right?

So, please explain to me again, like I'm your 14-year-old son, how taking away a woman's right to choice protects men's rights not to be financially obligated to support said skank's child.

No you can't spread your legs to men like that. No you don't have the right to "choose" to kill a human being. No he doesn't have the right to murder his children or your children arrange to have them murdered. Yes they need to be obligated to support their children. Fatherhood is about more than money; things money can't buy.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

Yes, I think for myself and it doesn’t align with your own BS, imagine that.

It's hilarious.

You're trying to assess me from your own ideologies.

So, what you actually end up with is -- your own thoughts that don't relate to me in any way.

a reply to: Annee

That’s kind of how thinking works.

It’s based on the analysis of the selfish, shallow and heartless opinions you spout on here.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

Depending on where you are, it’s illegal in some places. The thread title suggests you don’t understand morality. No surprise there.

bad
băd
adjective
Not achieving an adequate standard; poor.
Immoral or evil.
Vulgar or obscene.

Hey! Why don't we let Fundamentalists legislate morality?

My ethics: FEED LIVING CHILDREN

But your definition of "living" is flawed and retarded.

a reply to: Quadrivium

A living child is what you get after a fetus is born alive.
But your definition of "human being" is flawed and retarded.

This is not a human being.

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

Depending on where you are, it’s illegal in some places. The thread title suggests you don’t understand morality. No surprise there.

bad
băd
adjective
Not achieving an adequate standard; poor.
Immoral or evil.
Vulgar or obscene.

Hey! Why don't we let Fundamentalists legislate morality?

My ethics: FEED LIVING CHILDREN

But your definition of "living" is flawed and retarded.

It doesn't fit in your "box"?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

In your opinion when does a foetus become a living child? To suggest a baby is only a human upon birth is stupidity personified.

Are you one of those extremists that advocate for late term abortions. If not, where do you draw the line?

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Sookiechacha

In your opinion when does a foetus become a living child? To suggest a baby is only a human upon birth is stupidity personified.

I refer you to Sookie's multiple posts that you choose to reject.

a reply to: Grenade

And round and round we go again....

In your opinion when does a foetus become a living child? To suggest a baby is only a human upon birth is stupidity personified.

Obviously, a human ovum is a human ovum, human sperm is human sperm, a human zygote is a human zygote, a human embryo is a human embryo, and a human fetus is a human fetus.

Are you one of those extremists that advocate for late term abortions. If not, where do you draw the line?

No. The SCOTUS ruling was extremist. I'm one of those who supports the status quo, which was a viability threshold for the past 50 years. We don't, and never have advocated for abortion when the fetus is healthy and viable and could be delivered alive, unless doing so threatens the life of the mother.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

You didn’t answer the question.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Sookiechacha


You didn’t answer the question.

ALL questions have been answered in this thread.

They just don't fit in your "box".

You want absolute agreement.

That is not going to happen.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Sookiechacha

You didn’t answer the question.

Yeah, I did. What words don't you understand?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

When does a foetus become a living child in your opinion?

Simplify it for me with an exact timeline instead of the convoluted attempts to deflect the question.

when
wĕn, hwĕn
adverb
At what time.

Generally answered with nouns which include units of time such as months, days or even hours. You say up until birth but also contradict that by stating viability outside the womb.

a reply to: Annee

I wasn't talking to you. We've established your extremist opinion.

You're now using this fitting in "box" reply to everyone that doesn't agree with you. At least try some originality with your responses or is that all you have?

You're the one living in a box that thinks everyone should bend to your will and feelings. You can't fathom people thinking for themselves or having an opinion which doesn't fit into a group think ideology. Hence you stereotype everyone.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Quadrivium

A living child is what you get after a fetus is born alive.
But your definition of "human being" is flawed and retarded.

This is not a human being.

Sure it is.
If that is a picture of a human zygote, it is a human being at the beginning of their life cycle.
You are still confusing human being with "being human"....
Huge difference.

What is the difference between Human Being and Being Human?
Human being and being human are terms, although formed from the same words that denote different ideas. While they are certainly related, it is important to be properly aware of the true meaning of the two terms, the human being and being human, in order to use them correctly in different contexts.

• A human being is a biological being. Being human is a quality.

• Human being is a noun. Being human is a verb.

• Human being can be used as a scientific term. Being human is a term that is used in more informal contexts where compassionate and sympathetic behavior needs to be implied.

• A human being is not always seen as being human. Being human is a good quality of a human being.

www.differencebetween.com...

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

Depending on where you are, it’s illegal in some places. The thread title suggests you don’t understand morality. No surprise there.

bad
băd
adjective
Not achieving an adequate standard; poor.
Immoral or evil.
Vulgar or obscene.

Hey! Why don't we let Fundamentalists legislate morality?

My ethics: FEED LIVING CHILDREN

But your definition of "living" is flawed and retarded.

It doesn't fit in your "box"?

It does not fit in The truth, reality, which is objective.
It may fit "your truth", but that is subjective.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Obviously, a human ovum is a human ovum, human sperm is human sperm, a human zygote is a human zygote, a human embryo is a human embryo, and a human fetus is a human fetus.

Wrong.
Here you are lumping the haploid cells in with diploid.
But you are on the right track.
So obviously, a human zygote is a human zygote, a human embryo is a human embryo, and a human fetus is a human fetus,
a human newborn is a human newborn, a human toddler is a human toddler, a human adolescent is a human adolescent,
a human adult is a human adult and so on.

The life cycle of a human being is a continuous process that begins at conception and ends at death.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Sookiechacha


You didn’t answer the question.

ALL questions have been answered in this thread.

They just don't fit in your "box".

You want absolute agreement.

That is not going to happen.

No Anne, some of us just don't want human beings killed because other human beings can not and will not accept objective reality.

a reply to: Grenade
There was a thread a while back when they stopped talking about when a human being becomes a "person".

I simply asked at what point the magical personhood fairy showed up and sprinkled the 'magic dust of personhood' on a human being, to turn them into a person....

They now seem to avoid questions of that sort.
Of course I don't know, but they probably started to realize how religious they sounded.

a reply to: Grenade

When does a foetus become a living child in your opinion?

Why is "living" in your equation? The ovum and sperm were alive before conception. Conception doesn't convey life; life was already there.

Can you tell me the difference between a fetus and child, in your mind? Otherwise, I'm having a hard time understanding the question.

As far as a cut off point for abortion, the status quo, which I support, has been viability. When a fetus can survive outside the womb, without heroic measures, that is when a fetus is viable.