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South Africa.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: CthruU
Thing is CthruU China is not too chuffed with Putin threatening the use of nukes.
NATO and Russia squabbling is one thing and a win win situation where China is concerned.
However, if Putin brings about full-blown nuclear with his antics then there goes China's customer base.
Xi Jinping is simply not that stupid.
China won't be the sort of lifeline Russia imagines unless they wish to become a Chinese satellite state of sorts.
originally posted by: CthruU
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: CthruU
Thing is CthruU China is not too chuffed with Putin threatening the use of nukes.
NATO and Russia squabbling is one thing and a win win situation where China is concerned.
However, if Putin brings about full-blown nuclear with his antics then there goes China's customer base.
Xi Jinping is simply not that stupid.
China won't be the sort of lifeline Russia imagines unless they wish to become a Chinese satellite state of sorts.
I know media would have us believe that but fact remains that before every main move putin has had meetings with XI, except the one just before the pipeline where he sent two representatives.
China is onboard, your watching a movie and just for kicks disregard the Chinese and Russian ships near the pole.
Also funny enough the convicts are actually doing rather well under Wagner, furthermore most sentences got reduced to 6 months instead of years. Plus the convict conscripts are mostly fortifying the lines right now and in some locations actually halted the Ukrainian push which is pretty funny. NATO and American training can't take hardened Russian criminals it seems!
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: WanderingMrM
America is still a baby relatively speaking where nations are concerned WanderingMrM.
With all the teething and growing pains that come with it.
A heavily nuclear-armed baby all the same with the best military in the world, possessing the ability to fight Russia and China simultaneously if need be without breaking to much of a sweat.
And i imagine she will be around for quite a while.
You expect them to tear themselves apart, but the fact of the matter is Russia is far more lightly to slip into civil war given the current climate and state of affairs than America is.
The situation says Putin is screwed from a military perspective.
Ukraine remains a free nation with the support of NATO behind her, possibly soon to be part of NATO at some future date.
Same as Sweden and Finland which Putin also drove into NATO arms.
Situation is all Putin has managed to achieve is to double his borders with NATO nation and alienate his nation from the rest of the civilized world by way of his actions and antics.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: CthruU
I don't think China is as "onboard" as you imagine CthruU.
As is evidenced by the last meeting between Xi Jinping and Putin.
There are now strings to any sort of help China will offer Russia, hidden or otherwise.
You simply don't bite the hand that feeds you.
China needs the West to consume her goods if they wish to continue to see there nation prosper, and like i suggest, dead people cant buy stuff.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: WanderingMrM
So your ""sources"" are duded online that share views and opinions?
Come on buddy give your head a wobble.
Else at least explain why you would place such stock in their opinions.
This is how Qanonacrap starts WanderingMrM aka people with their ""alternative facts"" and opinions.