It's About To Go Down...

I see our Russian water carrying seer has been at it again.

Bad news mate. You're wrong. On all your "predictions". Your Great Tzar isn't coming to save you. Your leader is desperate ( that's the real concern). Unless he changes tune and calls this a war and fully mobilizes the economy and army, his "surge" of 300K( more like 2-3X that) is going to be ineffective. Ukrainians don't hate Zelensky. Sham referendums and annexation isn't going to save you. Using any nuke will degrade even further any support that Russia has left and most likely lead to an expedited splitting of Russia. Dagestan is getting close. The Far East is tired of the Moscow killing off their young men. Throwing a few 100K of those newly conscripted folks into those areas to police them isn't going to work. If anything it will back fire. Russia won't hold those territories for more than a few years at absolute best, but more likely for another year maybe. This isn't 2014, the Ukrainians have said NYET you mother#ers, that's enough. And the thought of conscripting Ukrainians to fight after the sham annexation will be a disaster. Imagine a Russian officer telling a bunch of conscripts to head over there and kill your countrymen? You know who dies in that scenario?

The CSTO has been shown to be useless, the other states aren't coming to your rescue when Putin says that land is now Russian, they attacked us, you need to come help us. Lukashenko likes power to much, he ain't committing anybody, except maybe a couple of token troops.

You were wrong in your little Great Tzar thread, you're wrong now. Your hero's ability to replenish all the # lost in Ukraine doesn't exist. Yes, the Chinese are stealth helping them but they won't scale up to meet the need Russia faces.

Ukrainians have shown the desire to fight and the will to keep fighting. And as long as that is the case, NATO and other allies will continue to send support. And as long as that support continues, Russia will be pushed back, piece by piece, meter by meter.

7 months on and all the stuff Putin and the Russia central bank did to prop up the Russian economy are starting to fade. All those washing machines aren't going to provide the parts needed to build all those amazing hypersonic missiles.

Your "allies" are distancing themselves from Moscow, the former republics are openly taking the smart Russians who are running and welcoming them open arms.

You have no contacts who have told you anything, as if your supposed contacts would disclose something like that to a random to start with. You might know a couple of people who have served but high ranking? Sorry mate but you're full of #.

See I don't underestimate the Russian military. If properly equipped, trained and led, they can be a formidable fighting force. Fact is, none of those things are currently in place.

Wagner is hiring foreign losers looking for a fight, you should give them a call. The number is on telegram. It'll be a grand adventure I'm sure and you'll be part of a great victory for your ancestral motherland. I'll chip in for the plane ticket. You can pay me back when you get home after glorious victory.

originally posted by: Salamandy
a reply to: andy06shake

Russia may be more “done for” in your opinion but the fact remains that the USA should have butted out and spent all the donations on domestic issues in the US. Namely, a massive effort to drill for oil and a massive effort to support and bolster small business, especially in the manufacturing industry

The Biden administration isn’t interested in anything that would help small businesses. The support goes to big pharma and the other mega corporations that fund them.

a reply to: WanderingMrM


That isn't what putin said.

Ever.

And he's 'not bluffing'.

a reply to: GAOTU789


☝️ = me if I had any patience or writing talent.

a reply to: WanderingMrM


Do you know how much business china does with 'the rest of the world' vs the US & Europe?

Did you see what 'the world' just did to russia with the stroke of a few pens?

ccp did.

a reply to: andy06shake

just seems hypocritical to claim to want freedom and security and then we (the US) give billions so I can see instagram videos of more dead people

we are thousands of miles away and have priorities at home. How about use that moolah in the US first?

a reply to: Nickn3

yeah, this admin is horrendous and thats why we need new leadership in the US badly

a reply to: Salamandy

just seems hypocritical to claim to want freedom and security and then we (the US) give billions so I can see instagram videos of more dead people

Have you met the world?

Everyone is a hypocrite to one degree or another far as i can establish.

Nations are no different on that score.

None of which excuses Russia's invasion of Ukraine or Putin's threat to use nuclear weapons.

we are thousands of miles away and have priorities at home. How about use that moolah in the US first?

Thousands of miles away is not all its cracked up to be in a world where we have the infrastructure and transportation hubs in place to move both man and machine around the globe in a matter of mere hours or days.

You live in a world Salamandy that's all connected at numerous different points and levels, hence it has to be defended against the likes of Russia and people like Putin, who are willing to threaten nuclear war because their failed invasion is not going his way or to plan.

And hence the reason for the likes of NATO's existence.

If you don't think Russia is a threat mate then how do you account for so many former Soviet Bloc nations choosing to join NATO?

What do you imagine they are afraid of if not Russian coming to invade them again at some point in the future?

a reply to: GAOTU789

I'm not allowed in Russia unfortunately long story maybe eventually I'll tell it

Although that is not a bad offer, a free ticket to Russia *rubs chin*

I do find it interesting that everyone is freaking out that nukes will go off and become a WW3, which in its entire form will not. They'll just throw Ukraine under the bus with Zelensky included, so it's going to be alright for now we can just enjoy the show.

Watch Europe flip out as more division grows, and observe the American economy collapse so hard that it will cause a revolution or a full-blown civil war.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: WanderingMrM


Do you know how much business china does with 'the rest of the world' vs the US & Europe?

Did you see what 'the world' just did to russia with the stroke of a few pens?

ccp did.

What did they do though? Sign some b.s papers that U.S and NATO never followed? That everyone can wipe their butts with?

originally posted by: Salamandy
a reply to: Nickn3

yeah, this admin is horrendous and thats why we need new leadership in the US badly

Don't worry it will change once the economy collapses or by some miracle, they manage to hold it off and someone super radical shows up.

a reply to: WanderingMrM

I do find it interesting that everyone is freaking out that nukes will go off and become a WW3, which in its entire form will not.

Your Man Putin does keep on harping on about firing one off.

And apparently, he's ""not bluffing"".

So there is that.

It's not like it's just something people thought up to play at doom porn WanderingMrM.

A threat is a threat after all, and he is issuing just that, repeatedly so.

a reply to: andy06shake

i agree we have a world presence by default and being part of nato counts. there are just many countries closer that can help, if absolutely necessary. We have priorities at home first and have done our share of helping on the world stage. this just seems like it is leading to nothing but more and more death. shouldn't be funding it. waddya bet they start talking draft next for the US? maybe not, but given the complex nature if it all, us regulars can only assume what is actually happening. best to stay out if you're that far away and not butt in. especially when your house is a mess

a reply to: WanderingMrM

What did they do though?

In 1995, the value of China's imports and exports of goods totaled $280.9 billion or 3 percent of global trade. 2018, its total trade in goods had jumped to $4.6 trillion or 12.4 percent of global trade. The US is the world's second-largest trader at 11.5 percent of total trade, followed by Germany at 7.7 percent.

Quite a bit which is plainly evident to tune of around 12.4 percent of global trade.

a reply to: andy06shake

Hold up so by the same said logic... Why was the world not defended when NATO and U.S razed Iraq, Syria, Lybia, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, etc ?

By this logic we're basically saying it's ok to do it to nations that pose no direct threat, but it is wrong to do it to a nation that does pose a direct threat?

If we go this way then what is the point of having U.N? Since they are so one-sided anyway.

This is what I find really interesting about the world, we have one group razing entire nations and no one bats an eye, no sanctions are made, no demonization or condemnation or resolve within the U.N, etc.

As soon as someone else does it they instantly become the enemy of humanity? Seems kind of odd don't you think?

Where was the so-called united front and complete financial obliteration of America or European nations that took part in those conflicts? Oh that's right top $ paid for the silence!

One of several reasons this is happening is because Europe and America literally violated the international law and order of things, and this signaled Russia and China to go "Well sh*t since you can do it, so can we!".

The bias of the world is real and a single sphere of influence and power is the reason we are in this mess today! Not because Russia launched a special operation into Ukraine, but because America and NATO in combination with the whole backing of Europe could not control themselves.

a reply to: Salamandy

I get where you are coming from also Salamandy.

Florida for instance is a mess right now.

Fact of the matter is that we will always have money for war.

Which is rather pathetic really.

Again though America is part of NATO and they are behind Ukraine and wish to see the Russian invasion repelled.

NATO follows the old ethos one for all and all for one mate.

I think drafting people is a bad idea, for a start it did not work out too well for Russia aka their conscription dilemma.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: WanderingMrM

I do find it interesting that everyone is freaking out that nukes will go off and become a WW3, which in its entire form will not.

Your Man Putin does keep on harping on about firing one off.

And apparently, he's ""not bluffing"".

So there is that.

It's not like it's just something people thought up to play at doom porn WanderingMrM.

A threat is a threat after all, and he is issuing just that, repeatedly so.

The threat is issued to NATO and Murika, he's not gonna nuke Ukraine as I said before. He will use the other weapon most likely but that other one is not nuclear, which means there wouldn't be an all out nuclear war if he used it instead of a nuke against Ukraine.

The real question we should be asking is - Would Zelensky be dumb enough to attack what now is Russian territory and Russia itself?

So unless we are truly dealing with an American and NATO puppet, I don't think Zelensky would be that suicidal to attack Russia like that directly, because then Russia's hands will be untied and Ukraine would literally be no more. Again without the use of a nuclear weapon!

a reply to: WanderingMrM

the one thing that biden seems to get right in his attempts at speaking is the fact that violence is a bad bad bad thing

but send billions to fund war... ok sure!

a reply to: WanderingMrM

Naw mate, the main reason this is happening is down to Putin telling outright porky pies about military exercises on the border of Ukraine not being outright war and invasion, attempting a land grab, under the guise of hunt the Nazi, and then his forces not being welcomed with the champagne cocktails and open arms he thought they would.

As to the rest of what you have to say i don't necessarily disagree with some of it.

Time is now all the same, not way back when, and again Putin is the one threatening to use nuclear weapons.

originally posted by: WanderingMrM

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: WanderingMrM


Do you know how much business china does with 'the rest of the world' vs the US & Europe?

Did you see what 'the world' just did to russia with the stroke of a few pens?

ccp did.

What did they do though? Sign some b.s papers that U.S and NATO never followed? That everyone can wipe their butts with?

Don't worry, ccp was paying attention better.