What a terrible day - 21 dead most are children

originally posted by: Freeborn

What makes you say that?
Have you any supportive evidence to back that statement up?
Any sources?

Their own words in their own manifestos. I have shown 1 here but apparently you decided not to look at it.

From the Buffalo's own manifesto. How does it make any sense for this bastard to be "right-win" when he openly states having grown up as a COMMUNIST and then turning into an "mild-moderate authoritarian leftist"?



He is an eco-fascist. These people believe in extreme environmental laws that give more rights to nature and animals than to humans. This is a LEFT-WING belief.

originally posted by: Freeborn
Whilst I may not be a supporter of the LGBTQ+ or whatever its called agenda I fail to see what relevance that rant has to do with this tragedy or any other similar incidents.

So, in your mind having children grown up indoctrinated to be "trans" making them very conflicted individuals and many of which later on in life realize they were never "trans" is not going to make a lot of young people into angry individuals? Then add to that the CRT curriculum in schools which is a MARXIST indoctrination. Then add to that the fact that from very early a lot of American children are being indoctrinated into thinking that human life "at certain stages" is not worthwhile protecting, that they are "cancer cells" and "not human." Which ironically many LGBTQ etc, etc teachers and even parents claim that certain individuals deserve to die, or to be sent to indoctrination camps, etc for their political leaning being to the right." Tik Tok, Twitter, Facebook, google, etc, are full of videos of these sort of individuals devaluing life and this is how children are growing up these days and for years now.

Communism works this way. They make up some "social conflict" to rile up people to overthrow "capitalism" in general as well as to destroy the family unit by taking away parental rights and giving those rights to the "state/government" and to teachers who are not the parents of those children. The LGBTQ etc, etc community is pro-socialism/pro-communism, anti-religion, anti-traditional family unit, anti-conservative. This type of indoctrination is being done on purpose to be pro-socialism/communism and to dumb down and make a weaker society

originally posted by: Freeborn
As far as I can tell very, very few perpetrators of these horrendous acts come from that section of the community.

First of all, are you claiming that only true transgender, or just lesbians, or just gays, or queer people are the only ones in the LGBTQ movement? The people who are truly trans, gay, lesbian, queer, etc are not the majority of the people who are in the movement. But there are lot of left-wingers who are part of this movement and many of those people do turn to violence, or to engage in confrontation and violence for the people who are truly trans, gay, lesbian, queer, etc.

2nd. Although not every trans person would turn violent it is a fact that transgender people are more likely to become very conflicting and violent individuals.

3rd. I have not blamed transgenderism as the number 1 cause for the increase in violence, but it is part of such increase. But people who support the LGBTQ plus agenda are also many of the people who turn violent.

As for violent? We have the recent attack with a knife to Chapelle by a bisexual.

But here are some notable mass murderers who are/where part of the LGBTQ commnunity.

Again a lot of people who are gay, lesbian, queer are not and would not turn violent, but within the movement that wants very extremist policies, such as taking away parental rights is part of the LGBTQ movement's goals.

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But investigators did find some curious evidence. They described a file recovered from Lanza’s smashed hard drive as “advocating pedophiles’ rights and the liberation of children.”

Another file included the text of a screenplay portraying a relationship between a 10-year-old boy and a 30-year-old man.

The documents also mention an unidentified woman who claimed to have spoken with Lanza online. He allegedly told her “adult-child sexual relationships could be possibly beneficial to both parties.”
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Lanza wrote that he felt “pity” for school children and reviled the way teachers and parents controlled them. In killing them, Lanza believed he was “saving them” and “taking them away from harmful influences” who were going to “brainwash” them, the woman reportedly told the FBI.
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Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza was a pedophile who thought he was ‘saving’ children

Have you heard the fake mainstream media accuse Adam Lanza being a pedophile and his pro LGBTQ plus views as the main reason for him mass murdering children? No, they blamed GUNS. Even thou Lanza himself admitted that his views are what made him murder those children.

What about the Colorado mass shooting in 2019 by homosexual Devon Erickson and his transgender partner Maya alias/ Alec McKinney? They were both LGBTQ plus activists who hated Christians and President Trump. They both called for more support for LGBTQ youth.

Devon Erickson, Colorado school shooting suspect, shared anti-Trump post on Facebook

...Multiple sources close to the investigation told Denver7 late Tuesday night that the second suspect, who is a minor, is a transgender male who was in the midst of transitioning from female to male.
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Authorities recovered three handguns and a rifle but said the rifle was not used in the shooting. They are looking for more guns, one ranking source said.
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What about "Omar Mateen"? The Orlando mass murderer. Some mainstream media reported that he himself frequented gay bars, including the pulse where he committed his attack.

[url=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639961/Orlando-terrorist-went-gay-club-Pulse-dozen-times-got-drunk-belligerent-talked-wife-kid-massacri ng-49-people-there.html] Omar Mateen was gay': Orlando terrorist pursued a relationship with male classmate, was a regular at gay bars including Pulse for the past decade, and used hookup apps like Grindr to meet men

Not all of these mass murderers used guns.

And those are just some recent mass murderers. How many mass murderers were LGBTQ and promoted rights to LGBTQ before the movement even got mainstream?

Here is a video of an audio of Jim Jones. In fact his religious cult "The People's Temple" was pro LGBTQ plus and they marched for the rights of the LGBTQ movement.



Then there is Donald Harvey, John Wayne Gacy, Patrick Kearney, Bruce Davis, Jeffrey Dahmer, Luis Garavito(Columbia), John Wayne Gacy, Mohamed Bouhlel(France), California Freeway Killer William G. Bonin, Patrick Kearney, Thomas Hamilton(Scotland), Andrew Cunanan, Orville Lynn Majors, Charles Manson, Bruce Davis(Charles Manson accomplice), Donald Patrick Harvey, Nathaniel Bar-Jonah, Gay Corll, Henley & Brook...

(continued)

(continued) Including murderers of at least 1 person.

...Richard Speck, Bruce McArthur, Wayne Williams, Henry Lee Lucas, Ottis Toole, Frank Davis, Stephen Port, Jürgen Bartsch(Germany), Gary Ray Bowles, Robert Berdella, Randy Kraft, Dennis Nilsen(England), Stephen Port, Ronald Dominique, Larry Eyler, Arthur Bishop, Daniel Conahan, Herb Baumeister, Joseph Duncan, Vaughn Greenwood, William MacDonald(Australia), Michael Lupo(England), Carl Panzram, Aileen Wuornos, Black Doodler, John Joubert, Steven Grieveson, Allan Grimson(England), Anthony Morley, Aaron McKinney, Matthew Riehl.

Some of these cases where first and for a long while reported as hate against gays, but when more investigations were done they found the perpetrators themselves were also gay and or part of the LGBTQ plus community.

BTW, again I am not saying all gay, or lesbian people or even transgender people are murderers. But the media has been lying about these murderers for a very long time. There are plenty of heterosexual murderers as well, but these claims lately from the LGBTQ plus community and many of their fans that "all killings of gays/lesbians, etc are done by heterosexuals is not true.

I also do not condone any harm, violence, or any type of attack against anyone, whether they are part of the LGBTQ plus movement or are just gay and Lesbian, bisexual nor heterosexual.

a reply to: Freeborn

Then there you have Lori Lightfoot a prominent LGBTQ activist, and a prominent democrat official recently calling for actual violence.

Lori Lightfoot Just Called for LGBTQ Community on a Call To Arms.

If you want more proof of how far left most mass murderers have been, there is the New Zealand mass murderer.
From his manifesto.

He believed in "human induced Climate Change" and that "the environment is being destroyed by overpopulation", and he argued in favor of murdering the people that reproduce the most "to save the environment..."

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Were/are you a fascist?

Yes. For once, the person that will be called a fascist is an actual fascist. I am sure the journalists will love that. I mostly agree with Sir Oswald Mosley’s views and consider myself an Eco-fascist by nature. The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.
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New Zealand Mass Murderer is a Far Left-winger.

As I wrote in that thread.

"Anyway, to go back to the original topic, here is once again a picture of the diagram that the murderer had in his equipment. Not to mention that he even mentions wanting to use those weapons because he wanted them banned to start a conflict between the left and the right around the world...



The above diagram is part of this other diagram.



"Worker's right" far left-wing belief...
"Anti-imperialism" far left-wing belief...
"Environmentalism" the radical version of the left just like today...
"Responsible Markets" instead of Free Markets...

These are "far left-wing beliefs" and have NOTHING to do with the right..."

Heck, even Darrel Brooks a far leftist shared pro-Hitler posts. He is not gay, or part of the LGBTQ community as far as I know, but he is a far leftist who murdered several white people, including a child. He didn't use a gun, but are these murders any less vicious or less of a problem? No.

Darrell Brooks Shared Pro-Hitler and Violent Anti-White Posts on Social Media

As for your claim that only people in the right use, or like guns?... Really?...

Armed Leftist Group Warns: 'We Will Kill Everything White in Sight'

I don't think I posted this from CNN.

One Colorado school shooting suspect claims he was forced to do it

By Faith Karimi and Scott McLean, CNN
Updated 4:17 AM EDT, Wed September 25, 2019

(CNN —

A high school student accused of opening fire in a Colorado school told investigators he targeted those who mocked his gender identity, and had messaged a second suspect on Snapchat hours earlier about his plan, court documents show.

In the message, McKinney allegedly told him not to come to school. “Please don’t,” Erickson responded, according to a preliminary hearing.

The two suspects are accused of carrying out a mass shooting at STEM School Highlands Ranch near Denver in May, killing Kendrick Ray Castillo, 18, and wounding eight others.
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One Colorado school shooting suspect claims he was forced to do it

BTW, more research should be done to 100% corroborate this but...

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Newly discovered notes from a U.S. Army interview of former Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler doctors reveal that the madman had homosexual tendencies, did not sleep in girlfriend Eva Braun's bedroom, and was doped up with multiple drugs including female hormones.

Written in erratic shorthand, Army interrogator Herman Merl, a Vienna-born medical technician enlisted to interview Hitler's doctors, Karl Brandt and Theodor Morell, scribbled "Homosex" in his notebook where he sized up the mass murderer's sexuality.

He then wrote: "Eva Braun = separate rooms" before adding "female hormone - injection 50,000 units." Elsewhere he wrote, "His sexual life and intercourse with Eva Braun was told to me."

The notebooks are going up for auction later this month at one of the nation's leading sellers of historical artifacts, Alexander Historical Auctions of Chesapeake City, Md. Alexander has offered other important Third Reich relics, including a tea set from Hitler's mountain hideaway and Josef Mengele's diaries. Often the items are sold to Jewish collectors and museums.
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Nazi doctors: Hitler was gay, took female hormones

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In his early adult life, Adolf Hitler practiced homosexual relationships. Most of his personal bodyguards and chauffeurs were gay. One of the reasons why he was never promoted during World War I was his sexual orientation.

Among his lovers was Rudolf Hess, who was nicknamed “Fraulein Anna” and “Black Emma.” Hitler and Hess began a relationship in 1924.

Another of Hitler’s lover was his chauffeur, Julius Schreck. When Schreck suddenly died n 1936 because of meningitis, Hitler supposedly cried for two days. Schreck received a state funeral and Hitler himself delivered the eulogy.

The Nazi opponents used the widespread homosexuality among the Nazi leaders to smear their public image.

The Nazi party was called “The Brotherhood of Poofs.”

Hitler was always mindful of his public image, thus he acted to suppress the rumors'. He used the Night of the Long Knives, a purge against his political opponents in 1934, to murder a lot of homosexuals. Among the victims was Ernst Röhm, the leader of SA, and a potential rival to Hitler, who was openly gay.
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The Bizarre Love Life of Adolf Hitler — Homosexuality, Young Mistresses, and Primitive Viagra

Heck, even the Huff posted this. Remember the reporter who published this is gay himself. Not to mention that the Huff is a far left source.

The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists
This is a taboo topic for a gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and fascism. Take a deep breath; here goes.
By
Johann Hari, Guest Writer

Oct. 21, 2008, 06:16 PM EDT | Updated May. 25, 2011
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The news that Jorg Haider - the Austrian fascist leader - spent his final few hours in a gay bar with a hot blond has shocked some people. It hasn't shocked me. This is a taboo topic for a gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and fascism. Take a deep breath; here goes.
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So the idea of a gay fascist seems ridiculous. Yet when the British National Party - our own home-grown Holocaust-denying bigots - announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism didn't blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was - including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. It's time to admit something. Fascism isn't something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is - in part, at least - a gay thing, and it's time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.
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The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists

One famous case that was for a long time touted as being done by white "redneck homophobes," was actually found around 2013 to have been a lie.

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Matthew Shepard’s horrific death at the hands of redneck homophobes shocked America and changed its laws. Now a different truth is emerging, but does it matter? Julie Bindel reports.
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Jimenez had no intention of causing such controversy. He’s an award-winning writer and TV producer, and visited Laramie shortly after the murder to gather material for a screenplay about the case. When he started he was convinced that Matthew died at the hands of homophobes, but he soon discovered that Matthew’s tragedy began long before the night he was killed.

Jimenez found that Matthew was addicted to and dealing crystal meth and had dabbled in heroin. He also took significant sexual risks and was being pimped alongside Aaron McKinney, one of his killers, with whom he’d had occasional sexual encounters. He was HIV positive at the time of his death.

“This does not make the perfect poster boy for the gay-rights movement,” says Jimenez. “Which is a big part of the reason my book has been so trashed.”

Matthew’s drug abuse, and the fact that he knew one of his killers prior to the attack, was never explored in court. Neither was the rumour that the killers knew that he had access to a shipment of crystal meth with a street value of $10,000 which they wanted to steal.
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The truth behind America’s most famous gay-hate murder

At least one of the two killers, Aaron McKinney, was also gay and a prostitute. They were drug addicts and drugs might have been also the reason for the murder and not "gay hatred."

a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

Where do you live. How many times has Americans saved your country’s Ass?

I live in Scotland, Glasgow to be precise, same people that immigrated to the USA and build your nation along with plenty of other immigrants from all over Europe never mind a few other places around the globe.

How many times has Americans saved your country’s Ass?

Never really, and if its WW2 you are referring to, that was a team effort same as the first one.

Both parties i think you may find your own nation was late to on both occasions.

Go sit down, men are talking.

Men that are fascinated with big shiny guns you mean.

And are you sure?

Coz your now sounding like a child.

Any road, and back on topic, your nation may wish to do something about the gun problem and sharpish really before more children needlessly die at the hands of armed maniacs.

a reply to: neutronflux

Here is a list of mass shootings in the United States thus far in 2022.

And its still only May.

en.wikipedia.org...

Like i suggest neutronflux you procrastinate away until you little heart is content.

You are like a junkie that blames the world for their woes and the way they are instead of the smack they pump into their arm.

And you won't change the fact of the matter spouting bullcrap and refusing to ever acknowledge your nation has an issue with guns.

So more people will continue to needlessly die until your nation finally does come to her senses and do something regarding the issue.

What a predicament.

a reply to: Xtrozero

What "things"?

Sorry Xtrozero i dont understand.

Point is 40% of the guns on planet Earth reside in the hands of the American public, one has to wonder why that is?

If we looked at more than 1/2 of our murders are gang on gang then that would drop us even more down to about 2 per 100k. UK is like 1.something per 100k, so what is your point here?

What is the UK number 1 at?

We have not had any mass school shootings since Dunblane, after such time we banned guns for the most part.

Still plenty of wee neds running around stabbing one another which is a serious issue.

But that's generally just one or two people the horrible little bastards manage to take out the game when they through down because the fact is that they don't have access to the likes of ArmaLite AR-15s or any other guns in the same to similar manner people do in the US.

America has too many guns Xtrozero, some of which are in the hands of the completely wrong sorts of people, which equates to far too many gun-related deaths, plain and simple really.

a reply to: andy06shake

It's easy to understand Andy. America is the land of the gun, and by extension the bomb. It's also the land of the mass murderer and by extension exports mass murder across the planet. It's the American way and not to be challenged or questioned, best leave them to it.

a reply to: vonclod

But all that still depends on a person buying, and using the stuff. It's a choice, the cartel is not forcing anyone to use.

One. They call them drug pushers for a reason.

Two. The cartels are not honest a lie to their “buyers” on what they are selling. What is supposedly heroin was increasingly laced with fentanyl.

Buying drugs on the street is a game of Russian roulette. From Xanax to coc aine, drugs or counterfeit pills purchased in nonmedical settings may contain life-threatening amounts of fentanyl.

Physicians like me have seen a rise in unintentional fentanyl use from people buying prescription opioids and other drugs laced, or adulterated, with fentanyl. Heroin users in my community in Massachusetts came to realize that fentanyl had entered the drug supply when overdose numbers exploded

www.umassmed.edu...

What other “industry” would stand if it killed 100,000 a year, lied about its product content, and used a cheaper and deadlier drug to cut the main product. And preyed on people susceptible to drug addiction. Like targeting minors and people in low income areas.

And your statement has nothing to do with:

you took away the power of the cartels by adopting a drug treatment program like Portugal, what do you think would happen to the homicide rate in Mexico and at the southern border.


And then you have the other side of the cartels forcing people into human trafficking….

a reply to: andy06shake

You are like a junkie that blames the world for their woes and the way they are instead of the smack they pump into their arm.

If gun control works in all countries. why the higher homicide rate in Mexico when you claim 40 percent of the worlds guns are owned by the USA. Vs the strict UK gun like laws of Mexico. Mexico homicide rate of 29 per 100,000 vs the USA rate of 5 or 6.

a reply to: neutronflux

What other “industry” would stand if it killed 100,000 a year, lied about its product content, and used a cheaper and deadlier drug to cut the main product.

The Tobacco industry springs to mind.

There is no real war on drugs neutronflux, too much money to be made you see that's essentially off the books and tax-free plus supply and demand 101.

a reply to: andy06shake

Asked you a question.

Are you just as outraged on Mexican social media against Mexican crime vs English based ATS?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: neutronflux

What other “industry” would stand if it killed 100,000 a year, lied about its product content, and used a cheaper and deadlier drug to cut the main product.

The Tobacco industry springs to mind.

There is no real war on drugs neutronflux, too much money to be made you see that's essentially off the books and tax-free plus supply and demand 101.

That's easy. Abortion. Abortion, a left-wing belief although some on the right also do abortions, has killed 65 million plus people. But your belief that "they are not human" is a similar belief shared by Margaret Sanger and the nazis.

The second amendment does not causes murders... More lives are defended with firearms in the U.S. than are lost.

Up to 2.5 million people each year use firearms and defend themselves...

Abortion 100% murders people.

Also socialism and communism are really good at murdering people and puting millions of people in jail for just being political opponents.

a reply to: neutronflux

If gun control works in all countries. why the higher homicide rate in Mexico when you claim 40 percent of the worlds guns are owned by the USA.

Hardly just me singing that tune neutronflux

www.forbes.com... 4a

Vs the strict UK gun like laws of Mexico. Mexico homicide rate of 29 per 100,000 vs the USA rate of 5 or 6.

Mexico is by definition a 3rd world country neutronflux so there is that, but im not quite sure as to the point you are attempting to make.

Far as i can establish Mexico has experienced 17 reported school shootings since 2004 whereas there have been 27 school shootings so far this year in America alone.

There is no real comparison and this should nor be happening in any sort of supposed first-world nation which is plain and simple to understand for the majority of people.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Aye a woman's body is her own concern by my guesstimation ElectricUniverse.

And your own Bible says life don't begin until the first breath so there is that, and how's that for belief.

"When God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7

Not that there will be any convincing you otherwise.

Anyhoo Tobacco industry ticks the box, the abortion industry not so much.

a reply to: neutronflux

Im outraged at all violent crime neutronflux.

But im sicked to the stomach with the crap being perpetrated in America regarding people and kids being shot every day of the week, and in a nation that should know better.

Whats "English based ATS"?

originally posted by: andy06shake
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Far as i can establish Mexico has experienced 17 reported school shootings since 2004 whereas there have been 27 school shootings so far this year in America alone.

There is no real comparison and this should nor be happening in any sort of supposed first-world nation which is plain and simple to understand for the majority of people.

How easily left-wingers like you ignore the fact that the large majority of those shootings are done in democrat cities and states, or because of democrat policies and not because of the 2nd amendment...

You are ignoring how the large majority of those shootings are done by gang members who themselves tend to be very left-wing/democrat. Which is why democrat leaders are kowtowing to criminals... It is the majority of the democrat population it seems...

You are also ignoring how you left-wingers have been demanding to take God off schools, and in every aspect of people's lives.

You are ignoring the fact that the large majority of mass murders and even regular murders are done by LEFT-WINGERS...

But of course, instead of pointing what is the real causes of the increase in shootings, you have to blame the 2nd amendment so only criminals and your corrupt democrat/rino leaders have firearms.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yeh its not really a left or right problem.

But a gun and people problem.

And nobody is ignoring anything, your nation is all over the news nearly every day of the week where crap like this is concerned.

Kind of hard to miss.

And on that note im off to the park with the kids it being Sunday and in relative safety no less.

You have yourself a good day all the same disagreements aside.

originally posted by: andy06shake

Aye a woman's body is her own concern by my guesstimation ElectricUniverse.

1. Unborn humans have a completely different dna from their mothers, they have a completely different spine, a completely different bone structure, a completely different body with their own organs, their own arms and legs... SO no, keep on lying all you want. But two people with two different dnas are two separate people...

originally posted by: andy06shake
And your own Bible says life don't begin until the first breath so there is that, and how's that for belief.

Dozens of other quotes from the bible state God knows us and who we will be and what we will do even in a woman's womb... So stop lying your butt off.

originally posted by: andy06shake
"When God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7

Genesis...talking about the very first man Adam... The very first man, Adam, wasn't born from a woman's womb... There goes your knowledge of the bible...

originally posted by: andy06shake
Not that there will be any convincing you otherwise.

You don't know anything about the bible or the teachings of the bible.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Anyhoo Tobacco industry ticks the box, the abortion industry not so much.

Not when you add socialism and communism at over 120 million murders of civilians and not counting the deaths of military personnel...