Russia accused of massacre, genocide over Bucha

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

You really find a need to quote yourself ?.. sorry i do not agree with you. you edited your post but still...You left your quote

I said it was an accident I obviously didn't do it on purpose

a reply to: RussianTroll


Yeah alright.

But seriously dude, what possible difference would it make if we were to take your word for it and accept this one video was just western propaganda?

Fact is, Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked, which resulted in thousands of civilian deaths, millions of civilians being made homeless & displaced and entire cities & towns being bombed to complete Ruble... for no logical or rational reason, nonetheless!

How can you seriously justify what has just happened in Ukraine?

Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? Even if someone is alive doesn't mean it's a fake video. Not everyone dies in war, some people are injured and shell-shocked or even trying to hide.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

No # huh, war is the perfect time for brutally murdering innocent people?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: glen200376

Please point me to the part where a limb moves.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

To be fair its more like the Nazi Azov and many other groups whith similar ideals and views have the Jewish leader at the end of a chain...and if he doesn't do what they want he is a goner.

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
I think since common sense is a dead issue I’m going to get on y’all’s wave length. Check it out.

Russians shot them then arranged them to make it look staged when the Ukrainians shot video of it so people would think Ukrainians staged it.

Sounds stupid huh? That’s how some y’all sound.

Hey the Russian POW video was no different, people saying Russians switched uniforms with Ukraines, people even said Russia shot their own soldiers for the video


Even if the video is real we still have no idea what happened or who did what, that's what happens when you force your civilians to fight and arm them.

Could it have been a couple rogue Russian soldiers? Of course that's possible. Could it be staged? Yup possible. Could a Ukrainian civilian snapped and shot a bunch of people? Yup that's possible. Could have a Ukrainian soldier snapped and shot civilians? Yup possible too. It's happened in war before as well.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Is one thing to acknowledge war is hell on civilians.

It’s different when people like you carry water for Putin and try to justify everything Russia has done.

Streets of Kyiv suburb ‘littered’ with bodies, 280 buried in mass grave
By Eileen AJ Connelly

April 2, 2022 | 3:39pm

nypost.com...

originally posted by: Cutepants


a reply to: MisguidedAngel

No # huh, war is the perfect time for brutally murdering innocent people?

Wouldn't be the first time and this is 12 soldiers who were playing the "game" not just 1 or 2 rogue ones.....

www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: Freeborn

I find it hilarious that some on ATS think the video is Ukrainian propoganda.

I say this to them, if it was don't you think The Ukrainian's would have edited to make sure it looked real, and deleted the so called " nose scratching " ?

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Freeborn

I find it hilarious that some on ATS think the video is Ukrainian propoganda.

I say this to them, if it was don't you think The Ukrainian's would have edited to make sure it looked real, and deleted the so called " nose scratching " ?

Kinda like why would Ukraine say the Babyn Yar Holocaust memorial in Kyiv was bombed by Russia when it can so easily be checked to see if it was or not?

Even though it could be easily checked and was by an Israeli journalist, who reported the next day that it wasn't bombed, Zelenskyy & Ukraine still thought it was a good idea to say it was bombed because once he did that the vast majority are gonna believe it was and that's all they will remember.

Even after the israeli reporter and then the Israeli government made a statement that the memorial was fine, the main stream media in the West never ran no correction stories and Ukraine knows it would be the same with this.

a reply to: Infoshill

Don´t see any limbs move, i see camera moving. You know what is fabric? are your pants straight and has no bends, ask someone to film you and look what it seems, but remember not to move.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

You

Kinda like why would Ukraine say the Babyn Yar Holocaust memorial in Kyiv was bombed by Russia when it can so easily be checked to see if it was or not?

No. More like…

Streets of Kyiv suburb ‘littered’ with bodies, 280 buried in mass grave

originally posted by: Infoshill

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: glen200376

Please point me to the part where a limb moves.

Are you blind or something? You didn’t see him get up and wave? Tf dude? /sarc. So done with the if it comes out of Russia 100% real facts Snopes approved. Comes out Ukraine… west propaganda machine, brainwashed, do you believe everything the west says? Azov did it.

I have to double check I’m still typing in abovetopsecret.com and not abovetopsecret.ru

Y’all are in desperate need for a crash course in angles and lighting and weather events. You know all that stuff everyone loves to disprove aliens and such? Apply it here too. Quit cherry picking.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: RussianTroll


Yeah alright.

But seriously dude, what possible difference would it make if we were to take your word for it and accept this one video was just western propaganda?

Fact is, Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked, which resulted in thousands of civilian deaths, millions of civilians being made homeless & displaced and entire cities & towns being bombed to complete Ruble... for no logical or rational reason, nonetheless!

How can you seriously justify what has just happened in Ukraine?

In Russia, many political scientists expect a conflict between the counties of Surrey and Kent. Then Russia will be able to supply modern weapons to the inhabitants of one of the counties, fully support it with information, impose sanctions against London and stamp fakes about the atrocities of the British against the British. It's just that the inhabitants of one of the counties need to be given a different name and call its inhabitants not English, but this name.
boomerang law.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RussianTroll

The one who underestimates the enemy always loses

Irony and/or prophetic?

Who's forces are retreating at present?

You are so carried away by this imaginary "retreat", you will probably come to your senses when the "retreating" Russian troops are at the Tower))))

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

I was being sarcastic. I think it's absurd that you're worried that someone might get their hands on a gun and kill people, when it's already happening all over the place on an industrial scale. You bend yourself out of shape to make excuses for Russia and then blame Ukraine when they do exactly the same thing, hand out weapons to inexperienced recruits.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Supply modern weapons? You mean like what they’re using now for their conventional army? I wouldn’t even accept that donation.

Need something to sanction as well. /shrug.

Russia can’t sanction anything. China and even BRICS couldn’t keep it afloat. Oil, oil, oil. West doesn’t buy, you have a problem. Only thing Russia could sanction that would hurt the EU. Which they won’t. Which is why they backpedaled on their ruble only idea and going with an exchange system instead.

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

If it’s a digital video camera. The sensors will create artifacts as the camera moves, the lens changes focus, and as the sensor pixels go from picking up light to dark. Or visa versa.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

If it’s a digital video camera. The sensors will create artifacts as the camera moves, the lens changes focus, and as the sensor pixels go from picking up light to dark. Or visa versa.

Thanks for that. Very informed.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Ha ha, nowhere near your usual wit and pointed observations.
Are you really RT?

Surrey and Kent are both long established counties/regions of England and the UK.

Ukraine is an independent country.
An independent country that was once forced into a Greater Russian Empire known as The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
A Union in which they were brutally supressed and in which most endured a miserable existence with little personal freedoms.

Ukraine is now an independent country.
The vast majority of the Ukraine population are Ukrainians, even in the areas Russia claims.

Russia has no legitimate claim on Ukraine.

Your attempt at likening Russian in Ukraine with some ridiculous imagined scenario of Surrey and Kent wanting to leave the UK is quite frankly truly pathetic and reeks of desperation.

Are you really RT?