Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

a reply to: carewemust

Did the Russia-Ukraine conflict suddenly end?

No.

"Conflict?" I thought it was a special operation.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Did the Russia-Ukraine conflict suddenly end?

No.

"Conflict?" I thought it was a special operation.

Maybe it was a nothingburger war game?

Secretary of State Blinken announced during his visit to Ukraine today, the U.S. is reopening its Ukraine embassy.

Source: www.npr.org...

a reply to: carewemust

Secretary of State Blinken announced during his visit to Ukraine today, the U.S. is reopening its Ukraine embassy.

Yes. You just posted that in the post to which I replied.

Amazing quote from that NPR source:

The U.S. says it's also training Ukrainians on how to use the weapons and giving $300 million more in foreign military financing so that Ukraine has more flexibility and can buy what it needs from other countries.

a reply to: JinMI

What is wrong with it?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: dragonridr

I've been watching there is not alot to stop Ukraine from taking Crimea troop wise their threat is the black sea fleet. They are still a huge threat to anyone trying to get into Crimea.

Ukraine if successful will have the land bridge and then it is easy push if they can get that far. I think the Black sea fleet is a little worried about what happened with the Moskva. It was pretty ingenious they launched the missiles with out active guidance system on and then directed them with airborne radar. Moskva really didn't have a chance.

The Neptune doesn't have active radar, or the ability to be guided externally, it's an old russian cruise missile with the addition of a passive radar seeking targeting system, plus the old russian inertia guidance for use initially after launch.

* - More from senior State, Defense officials via pool producer @Abs_NBC: US announcing - $713 million in Foreign Military Financing for 16 European countries, including $322 million for Ukraine - Foreign military sale $165 million for non-US/NATO, i.e., Russian ammunition to Ukraine

* - Donetsk Oblast(08:00). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Russia sends note to US demanding stop arms supplies to Ukraine - ambassador to US

* - Explosions reported in Odesa, possible air defence engaged aerial target

* - .@SecBlinken and @SecDef conclude trip to Ukraine. Senior officials announce US diplomats will return to Ukraine "as early as this week," with day trips to Lviv. And Bridget Brink will be nominated as next US Ambassador to Kyiv

* - Fire is still burning at oil depot in Bryansk

* - Ukrainian Armed Forces restored control over 5 settlements of the Mykolaiv region - operational command "South"

* - Kherson(07:36). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Ternopil, Ternopilska Oblast(07:28). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Chernivetska Oblast, Zakarpattia Oblast(07:26). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Ivano-Frankivsk, Ivano-Frankivska Oblast, Volynska Oblast, Rivne, Rivnenska Oblast, Lviv, Lvivska Oblast(07:21). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Khmelnytska Oblast(07:19). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Chernihivska Oblast(06:57). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Cherkaska Oblast, Kyiv Oblast, Kirovohradska Oblast, Vinnytska Oblast, Zhytomyr, Zhytomyrska Oblast(06:56). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Kyiv(06:55). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Blinken told Zelensky US diplomats to return to Ukraine 'this week': State Dept official

* - Sumska Oblast(06:36). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Odesa(06:32). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Kharkiv, Kharkivska Oblast, Odeska Oblast, Mykolaiv, Mykolayivska Oblast, Kryvyi Rih, Zaporizka Oblast, Poltavska Oblast(06:32). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Video from this morning in Bryansk

* - A closer look at the area on NASA's FIRMS shows two groups of fires in Bryansk, Russia

As a reminder

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

Resources - Where most of the updates come from.
* - Flightradar24 - tracks flights worldwide
* - Live Ukraine control map 1 - updates on the ground
* - Ukraine Control Map 2
* - Ship radar
* - Military vessel tracker
* - Institute for the Study of War (ISW)

Youtube resources -
* - Speak the Truth
* - War in Ukraine
* - Artur Rehi - Estonain soldier
* - Daily Report

Social media resources -
* - Twitter - Jomini of the West - Battlefield Maps

* - Smoke over oil depot in Bryansk

* - Explosions at an oil storage facility in Bryansk are so large that they're visible via @NASA's FIRMS

* - Big fire at oil depot in Bryansk

* - Ukrainian intelligence reporting offensive build-up of Russian troops in Kherson region on Kryvyi Rih direction - Head of Kryvyi Rih military administration Vilkul (This is inside Russia)


* - Explosions reported near Kherson

* - Russian troops shelled Avdiivka plant

* - 9 missile strikes tonight in Kremenchuk

* - 2 more missile hits in Kremenchuk

* - 2 people killed, 11 wounded today as result of Russian army shelling in Kharkiv region. Saltivka, Oleksiivka, Chuhuiv and Zolochiv were shelled today

* - Reports of explosions in Mykolaiv

* - OSCE Chairman-in-Office @RauZbigniew and OSCE Secretary General @HelgaSchmid_SG call for the release of four national members of the @OSCE_SMM detained in non-government-controlled areas of Donetsk and Luhansk

* - 5 missiles hits in Poltava region

* - Explosions reported in Kremenchuk

* - Russian army attempting to advance at Pashkove, Dovhenke, Velyka Komyshuvakha villages in Kharkiv region. Near Novomykhailivka and Maryinka in Donetsk region

* - Russian troops shelled Malynivka village near Chuhuiv in Kharkiv region, 3 civilians wounded

* - Downing Street says Boris Johnson has spoken with UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and the Prime Minister "made clear the importance of global solidarity with Ukraine, with the UK continuing to work closely with international partners to support Ukraine to defend itself"

* - Russian troops attempted to advance at Lyman and Yatskivka village in Donetsk region, but failed. Established partial control over Zarichne village

* - Shell landed near Otradnoe village in Belgorod region of Russia

* - In a phone conversation with Zelenskiy, President Erdoğan expressed that Turkey is ready to provide the necessary support during the negotiation process and that they have a positive view on the issue of guarantorship.

* - There are dead and wounded as result of shelling of Chuhuiv town in Kharkiv region by Russian army

* - Civilian woman killed as result of shelling of Kalynove village of Zolochiv district of Kharkiv region

* - Austrian Foreign Minister Schallenberg is against EU candidate status for Ukraine in June

* - Aide to office of President of Ukraine Podolyak: Russian troops attacking Azovstal non-stop

* - 2 children killed as result of shelling in Ocheretyne community in Donetsk region

* - Yesterday Russian troops shelled border villages in Sumy region. Damage to houses in Atynske and Boiaro-Lezhachi

* - Ukrainian army conducted attack at Russian troops in Kyselivka village of Kherson region, so they withdraw to Chornobaivka

* - As result of a missile strike at cemetery in Odesa one woman wounded

* - 1 killed as result of Russian missile strikes in Pavlohrad

As a reminder

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

Resources - Where most of the updates come from.
* - Flightradar24 - tracks flights worldwide
* - Live Ukraine control map 1 - updates on the ground
* - Ukraine Control Map 2
* - Ship radar
* - Military vessel tracker
* - Institute for the Study of War (ISW)

Youtube resources -
* - Speak the Truth
* - War in Ukraine
* - Artur Rehi - Estonain soldier
* - Daily Report

Social media resources -
* - Twitter - Jomini of the West - Battlefield Maps

a reply to: Xcathdra

Russia sends note to US demanding stop arms supplies to Ukraine - ambassador to US

Heh. And how many weapons of Russian design and manufacture did US forces encounter in Korea and Vietnam ?

Hell, there were even Russian pilots flying against us in the Korean War.

"No is fair when happen to Russia!!"

Yeah, Moscow, Karma is no fun when it comes around.

Cheers

24 April update

Key Takeaways

* Russian forces continued to pressure Ukrainian defenders in the Azovstal facility in Mariupol.

* Ukrainian sources report that Russian troops are preparing to conduct renewed assaults on Azovstal that would likely prove costly—possibly to meet a Kremlin-imposed deadline to clear Mariupol—but ISW cannot independently confirm these reports.

* Russian forces secured limited gains northwest of Severodonetsk but remain unlikely to be able to launch massed offensive operations.

* Additional Russian forces are deploying to reinforce unsuccessful attacks on the Izyum front.

* Ukrainian civilians in occupied Kharkiv Oblast are reportedly organizing volunteer movements to resist Russian occupation measures, similar to previously documented actions in southern Ukraine.

More at URL above.

Cheers

a reply to: carewemust

The embassy is located in Kyiv. Russia has pulled their troops back from Kyiv and seen content to keep the fighting the contained to the eastern Oblasts and the coast.

So if there's no longer any threat to Kyiv, it would make sense to reopen the embassy.

Video of a su-34 caught in a flat spin and trying, unsuccessfully, to reignite its engine....this is how Goose died in Top Gun.

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a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

The difference is that this conflict is on Russias border. Weapons and munitions supplied by the West can be used to target Russia directy. Vietnam and Korea were not on the USA's border. If they had been the US would have declared war on Russia.

originally posted by: midicon
The difference is tha this conflict is on Russias border.

So was Korea.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I didn't know Korea was on the US border. I thought it was Canada or Mexico.

originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

The difference is that this conflict is on Russias border. Weapons and munitions supplied by the West can be used to target Russia directy. Vietnam and Korea were not on the USA's border. If they had been the US would have declared war on Russia.

Perhaps russia should have thought of that before invading Ukraine twice in 8 years to steal land.

originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I didn't know Korea was on the US border. I thought it was Canada or Mexico.

N. Korea is on Russia's border. Russia on the other hand shares a border with the US.

originally posted by: midicon
I didn't know Korea was on the US border. I thought it was Canada or Mexico.

Korea was on Russia's border, despite your geographical and historical ignorance to this fact.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I didn't say it wasn't, despite your' assumption that I didn't know that. You know what I meant in my post but you can't resist the impulse to...whatever. Knock yourself out.