Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

a reply to: Freeborn

Mate, all it took was the passing of the generation that last experienced the horrors.

I don't grasp why this is. I am a child of people who experienced World War II in Europe. They did a good job of impressing upon me what a terrible time it was. Certainly, Putin, growing up, must have heard something besides the "glorious USSR" propaganda in Russia.

Or maybe he did and just doesn't care.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

spent lazy Sunday mornings in legion with my grandfather and his service mates he only spoke of his time once, REME and his job in the dessert was to fix the hit tanks and get them back into the fray, the descriptions of the mush that comes out after a hit where disgusting, he came back and went from lawyer to night porter.

but we have those who do know better running the world.... I sometimes think they're just hoping no one notices or believe it can't happen again.. I've a feeling we're all going to relearn those lessons.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

IMO the (in-person) audience members who watched Putin's latest speech are the historical ghosts of the people who failed to act against Hitler. However, I think it worth noting how any coup attempt against Putin would involve elements of the Russian intel and armed forces communities. The low percentage of people from those backgrounds, who participate in the plot, would face an extremely tough task.

But the risk of Putin facing a coup remains low. So the fall of his regime is more likely tied to Russia's military defeat in Ukraine. Putin's backers won't accept that kind of failure, and the Russian economy will ground to a halt. Relating to mobilisation, the inability to understand the requirement for reserved occupations is glaring. Removing miners and other skilled workers from their civilian careers will harm Russia more than international sanctions.

Unlike China, Russia never paid attention to the supply of PC hardware and specialised military equipment. But taking workers away from the factories and farms ends related assembly lines or food production.

a reply to: xpert11


The conscript's family gets a sheep though, doesn't that help with 'food production'?

Meanwhile somewhere in Russia..


Second army in the world is getting some traditional Russian Replenishment


Replenishment is coming to the alco-troops of the Russian Federation.

a reply to: Ove38

Reports are that number of TU95 and TU 160 bombers been moved to the Kola peninsula ....

Not a situation that gives one a warm feeling, is it ?

The sound of jackboots are echoing from the dusty corridors of history.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Putin should fast forward to the bunker scene where he eats the gun ........

a reply to: Kenzo


I just watched suchomimus video of Ukrainian flag raising in Lyman.

It appears that the russians left no rear guard when the 5th combined arms army snuck out of the city last night.

At least one of the 3 escaping convoys was obliterated, another abandoned it's vehicles and fled on foot, and no word on the 3rd yet.



Note: zero 'mercenaries' were found in Lyman, only the 5th combined arms army.

a reply to: Kenzo

Those guys are going to arrive at the front completely blasted.

Cheers

a reply to: MidnightWatcher


They seem to be ahead of schedule, or at least i expected it will take litle more time to be in Lyman .

It must be chaotic event when they tryed left there. Wikipedia says :

In the disastrous first months of Barbarossa, the 5th Army was encircled and destroyed around Kiev.

5th Combined Arms Army

Look`s like they should not enter Ukraine at all if they get encircled allways .

a reply to: Kenzo

It is not clear to me which Russian units were actually deployed in Lyman.

This map shows various elements; a couple of regiments and a brigade of some kind. Not much more than a division in theory, probably a few burnt out battalions in reality.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2


That map link not working for me, yeeh not so clear ..
Russia itself claim they withdrawn its forces from Lyman, and do Ukrainians say there are RF trapped, i dont know what exactly is the situation there .

Something is happening in Crimea, not sure what ...


The claim by Russian-appointed Governor of Sevastopol is that a plane overshot runway. If it did, it seems then have run into an arms dump


Russian sources are claiming a plane skidded off the runway.

Belbek Crimea



Have they been smoking again there ?

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2


That map link not working for me, yeeh not so clear ..
Russia itself claim they withdrawn its forces from Lyman, and do Ukrainians say there are RF trapped, i dont know what exactly is the situation there .

Here is the bit showing Lyman.



Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2


Thanks! Russian troops in there yes.

There was somewhere story that the troops wanted to get out yesterday, but because Putin had that speech , it was not possible.....bad PR if sameday huge chunk of troops would left Lyman when Putin sis speaking same time...

Crimea big boom


"An emergency situation at the #Belbek airfield. According to rescuers, during landing the plane rolled out of the runway and caught fire. Now fire crews are working at the site," said Gauleiter.

What are those ?? some kind of bomb to slow down Ukrainians ?


Footage of strange containers, which the occupiers began to bury in the Kherson region.


Photo

Presumed air crash, likely Russian Air Force aircraft in Crimea Belbek airport


Reportedly, the moment of the fire and the plane crash at the Belbek airfield in Crimea was caught on video


If it was Russian air force , bringing ammo suplys....bad day for them .

a reply to: Kenzo

BBC News - Ukraine war: Russian troops forced out of eastern town Lyman
www.bbc.co.uk...

Oh dear.

Is glorious tactical withdrawal.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2


This was good day for Ukraine