Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

a reply to: MidnightWatcher
When he talked about the Ukraine corruption, he apparently sort of anticipated the Russian propaganda claim and he specifically denied he's promoting Russian propaganda, but, I suppose that's what someone supporting Russian propaganda would say.

It's a bit extreme to make what in his own words is a 180 degree change of opinion in one week, when Ukraine has been doing well recently, so I think your CT thoughts need to be considered. I'm not sure he really justified his 180 degree change in his opinion, so he's at least under some suspicion at this point.

a reply to: Arbitrageur


Agreed.

I've been honestly worried about him for a while, he's an honest to God Patriot.

Russian black sea fleet might have new thing to worry


Ukraine’s New Weapon To Strike Russian Navy In Sevastopol

originally posted by: Kenzo

Russian black sea fleet might have new thing to worry


Ukraine’s New Weapon To Strike Russian Navy In Sevastopol

Those darned Ukrainians, what are they gonna come up with next!

I wonder if these have anything to do with the entire russian sub fleet hiding on the other side of Crimea?

Great Find Kenzo!

a reply to: MidnightWatcher


If the Russian find that earlyer it could give good reason to move the subs away, thought Ukraine has also harpoons , neptunes, drones too.

I dont know can underwater sensors detect easely those drone boats .

I like how the Ukrainians seem to create new tools

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Kenzo

Russian black sea fleet might have new thing to worry


Ukraine’s New Weapon To Strike Russian Navy In Sevastopol

Those darned Ukrainians, what are they gonna come up with next!

I wonder if these have anything to do with the entire russian sub fleet hiding on the other side of Crimea?

Great Find Kenzo!

As a NZer, i can say their level of DIY is impressive.

But will it ever match this thing of beauty...

Bob Semple Tank


Still better than most of what ruZZias soon to field...

a reply to: Xcathdra


PM for you & Cav.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Very easy to come under pressure. All it takes are family members the Russians can access.

Cheers

a reply to: Kenzo


They have Harpoons and probably still have a few Neptunes left, but the subs were 'just' outside their range and Ukraine doesn't yet have any drones large enough to really threaten a sub at a secured dock.

Until very recently, russia kept almost their entire black sea fleet at dock, but suddenly moved them to the other side of Crimea on the russian coast for an unknown reason. This craft might be that reason.

There have also been recent (unconfirmed?) reports that Ukraine is about to get some larger American drones that actually could threaten everything at Sevastopol. (These are the drones that I was aware that Ukrainians were training on some time ago)

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Very easy to come under pressure. All it takes are family members the Russians can access.

Cheers

That is EXACTLY my concern in his case, he mentioned a specific family member about 6 months ago.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

got it and back at ya.

a reply to: BigfootNZ


That looks a LOT like the 'tanks' that iran built out of Case bulldozers in the 80s.

Great stuff!






Got a lot of iranians killed, they built thousands of them out of the components that Case left behind when they abandoned their brand new iranian factory as the war started.

iran repeatedly sent 'waves' of these against T55s & T62s in the open desert, with no effective infantry support (infantry was just lined up behind the 'tanks').

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Yeeh you are right .


This is not looking good for Russkies


Russian army exhausted, but dictator wants to fight to last Russian, says military expert

a reply to: BigfootNZ


Never seen something like that before, nice looking tank !

The USSR had the mobilization organisation in place, just in case....

Now 2022, that`s different story


Regarding mobilisation, Putin can declare it, indeed. But it will be a risky decision. The USSR maintained a massive infrastructure for the total mobilisation which has been mostly dismantled in post-Soviet Russia

originally posted by: Kenzo

Chinese are starting to think different...

China’s Public Opinion Is Shifting Away From Russia

Chinese public opinion will play a role, how big as role I'm not sure, but it will matter after their elections next month.

For me, that's the wild card in all this. If Xi gets his third term, and the Russians don't show some form of regrouping and taking the initiative back in Ukraine this winter, it may lead to some form of action from the Chinese against Russia.

That article mentioned some of the slights Russia has done to China, both currently in social media and historically. The Chinese have a long memory. They are an ancient culture and they, at a macro level, don't think in short 4-5 year chunks like western countries.

If Xi get's his 3rd term, if Russia doesn't turn things around or even more costly, continues to be pushed back from the spaces they currently occupy in Ukraine and Chinese public opinion turns mostly against Russia; many Chinese may see this a chance to retake Vladivostok and other territories that they have lost historically to Russian.

I still believe firmly this is an outcome that is on the table if certain things happen.

Remember, China recently started to invest in Ukraine and when this is over, may get some large lucrative contracts to help rebuild the country. Their investment isn't large but I think they were the country with the fastest level of investment growth in Ukraine over the last 5-10 years.

This is not nice to read, Russian neo-Nazis group DSHRG Rusich writes about that it`s better to kill Ukrainian prisoners .


DSHRG Rusich Telegram

DSHRG Rusich

Instructions for the disposal of prisoners of war of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

1. If possible, do not report to the higher command about the presence of captured enemy soldiers and officers. If the report was carried out (to improve reporting), then report that the enemy is wounded and may die (even if this is not the case).

2. If there is time and opportunity - interrogate the captured enemy soldiers. First, without physical pressure, then again, with elements of impact such as chopping off fingers, cutting off an ear, blows to the groin and joints, driving needles under the nails. The main thing is that the enemy could consciously answer questions.


Questions asked to the enemy

- What military unit - Rank, position
- Where are the known command posts, positions, supply routes (can show on offline maps)
- The amount of equipment
- The amount of heavy weapons - How is the delivery
- What communication frequencies are used.
- Morale within the unit.

Answers can be videotaped.

3. After interrogation - either shoot the prisoners (do this without attracting attention and so that the fighters who do not participate in this do not see it, in order to avoid draining), or slaughter. It is desirable that everyone take part in this, so that in the future they would keep the secret of what happened. The second option is to wound the prisoners and send them to the hospital. It is necessary to inflict a wound in the area of ​​u200bu200bthe liver (in order to exclude the chance of survival) and groin. It is recommended to shoot from a short distance through an aramid package (in order to avoid burns on the body that can show the intentional nature of the injury).

Don't be afraid to kill the prisoners! Specialists and those to whom they are important for accountability do not appear on the front line. There will be no punishment for this.

By the way, if you can identify the bodies of those killed, don't give them away like that either. Take the coordinates of the exact burial place, take a photo so that the face can be seen and offer relatives to buy data on the place of burial of their son, husband and other things for an amount of 2 to 5 thousand dollars. Money can be transferred to a bitcoin wallet (and you spent it on equipment, drones, etc.)

Yeeh but putin says , Russian armed forces are in Ukraine to denazify the area.

a reply to: GAOTU789

They may indeed play long game , and some time later want back Vladivostok


Goodbye Vladivostok, Hello Hǎishēnwǎi!

a reply to: Kenzo

I'm sure you know my stance on things in Ukraine, but I got to say that seems highly suspicious to me.
It goes into far too much detail leaving nothing for interpretation or doubt.
I am incredibly suspicious as to the veracity of that document.

However, if it is genuine, a possibility I'm not dismissing, then it shows the brutal, callous and inhumane nature of those fighting for Putin....and their incredible stupidity for putting something like that in writing.